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dummy
10-16-2010, 10:25 AM
Long, so just skip to the last 2 paragraphs if you want the short version. Put it in General Topics 'cause technically there's a tiny bit of Mastercraft launching tech in here. :)

We're having our house tented for termites, so what better excuse to bring the family to Arizona for a boat trip to Havasu. Load my 6, 3, 1 year old boys, the darn cat, and all our food, etc. If you've ever had your home tented you know what a pain it is: second only to actually moving homes. We're the Clampetts of the boating set going down the road with half our home under the shell of my pickup. Long week/day getting here (cat doesn't travel well and had a buch of issues with my roofer and the need to tent my brand-new $20K roof) and I'm raw and need either some boating or some rum. I'm not a big drinker and have no rum anyway, so I unload the truck, pull the cover off the boat, grab boat dinner, and we're at Windsor launch ramp at 5:02pm. Only my annual pass expired the week before and the office just closed 2 minutes before. I'm not carrying any cash for the self-serve tube payment thing, so we just go to Site Six: the public ramps.

Site Six has a gnarly drop-off. It's steep and if you've launched your Mastercraft at a variety of different ramps you know you've got to do the counter-intuitive thing here and dunk the trailer more shallow than normal or the big 'ol Boat Buddy bow eye will grab the forward bunk. I knew this and even erring on the side of caution, didn't put it in shallow enough. The bow eye got hung up coming off the trailer, so I winched the boat back up, pulled the trailer out a bit more, and then the wife slipped it in like glass.

Out on the lake, ate dinner, kids swam for a bit, watched the sun go down, and then the baby threw his bottle overboard (little stinker). We fished it out, but wouldn't give it to him 'cause it probably got some lake water in it. That made him scream pretty much the whole trip back to Site Six in the dark. The wife was frazzled by the time we got back. She can't just listen to him cry and shut it off like I can. Normally she drops me at the dock, I back the truck in, she picks me up, then I load the boat and we're done. Sounds ponderous, but we're quick at it. But this time between the baby screaming, the darkness, and a couple Billy-Bobs trying to load a huge twin-engine go-fast boat she wasn't having it. They were using a second vehicle's headlights pointed straight into the water. It was blindingly bright and hampered almost all vision around the launch entry/docks.

I tie the boat in a slip, unload the family into the pickup, back the trailer EXACTLY where I KNEW it needed to be, run to the boat, untie, and start to make my approach despite the SUV pointing straight at me with its high beams on. I just wanna get out of there and call it a night. I'm using my truck's tail lights as a guide as I make my approach. Then I see my brake lights come on. W-T-F? Then here come my backup lights. W-T-F, W-T-F, W-T-F?!!!! I think my wife has lost her mind so I yell "what the hell are you doing?" as my truck backs farther into the water. By now I'm close enough to see the hot boat guys milling around my trailer and one getting out of my truck. I can hardly believe what's going on as I come in near my trailer guides, of which only a foot of 'em are now sticking out of the water. I'm committed 'cause between the monster 30-plus-foot twin-engine beast smack in the middle of the launch on my left, the headlights of the SUV blinding me from the front, and the rocks of the jetty to the right, I can't turn around and make another approach. I'm yelling at the guy as I come in on my trailer telling him what's about to happen with the bow eye and the bow rollers not engaging. "Nah, you're fine. You were too shallow. I can see it, come on up. I've done this a thousand times. I know what I'm doing..." I slide in between the guide poles with the keel absolutely no where near the bow rollers, which are probably 3 feet below 'cause of the depth these yokels put my trailer. By now I'm concentrating on just keeping the boat from going compeltely sideways on top of the trailer and then -wham, as the bow eye slaps the forward bunk.

I can't remember what I was yelling at the 3 guys, but it wasn't PG-13. They tossed up their hands as if to say like whoops, said "whatever man just trying to help" (like I'm the a-hole - maybe I am, but whatever) and got in their rigs, and hauled *** outta there fast. I'm on overdrive now and with nobody else to unload on I chew my wife out for letting these "hot-boat-driving-Budwiser-swilling-Billy-Bobs who don't know ****-all about loading a wakeboard boat" touch our rig. Why is it some women trust a complete drunken stranger over their own husbands? That's it. Never experienced anything like this and just had to rant. Seems rather incredible to me that these guys felt the need to "help" to that degree. I guess their intentions were well-meant. No damage to my boat from whacking the forward bunk and only a balck PVC stripe from the top of the pole guide on the white hull. I hooked up my bow strap with a lot of slack, pulled the truck and trailer forward, loaded up the boat properly, and then took the wife and kids out for ice cream 'cause I felt like a heel for raising my voice to her in public and in front of the kids.

LaRue
10-16-2010, 10:33 AM
That's an original. It would most likely not been my finest hour either

scott023
10-16-2010, 10:51 AM
Holy lick. I would have had a MAJOR meltdown on thise guys. W T H gets in someones elses vehicle without asking??? :nadkick:

ahhudgins
10-16-2010, 11:03 AM
I've been loading and unloading my boats by myself for almost 30 years. If one of my sons is with me at the ramp I will let them handle the boat and I take care of the truck. I'm at a small lake and it's rare that there is ever more than one or two people in the ramp area even on a busy weekend. I can tie my boat up at the marina and get my truck down the ramp and then the load up the boat in less than 3 minutes. I pull the boat up the ramp and take it to the parking area to wipe it down and clean up. But it never fails that when I'm ready to launch or load up that there is a group of idiots launching a tube'n or fish'n boat in front of me. Rather than doing all of their prep in the parking area, they pull the boat down the ramp and then take 30 minutes transferring all of their junk from the truck to the boat and then find out they have a dead battery or they forgot their cheese whiz.

I've often wished that they would put in an "Express Ramp" for the people who actaully know what they are doing. "5 Minutes or Less".

I feel your pain.

87PS190
10-16-2010, 11:08 AM
That's unbelievable.... Glad it turned out ok for the boat, hopefully wife learned an important lesson, too bad for the kids ears though.

ski_king
10-16-2010, 11:26 AM
So, did you get rid of the termites?

dummy
10-16-2010, 11:43 AM
So, did you get rid of the termites?

Ha! They're sucking poison gas right now! They put the tent up yesterday morning and gassed the house in the afternoon. it "soaks" in the poison gas for 24-hours. They'll drop the tent this afternoon, then tonight and tomorrow they make it safe for habitation again. Stuff is gnarly and kills anything within the walls, wood, ground, etc. Sucks but ya gotta do it.

One other thing I remembered from my "helpers". They didn't even set the e-brake in my truck after they moved it. :rolleyes: Glad I tow with a big, heavy 4x4 diesel.

rholmes
10-16-2010, 12:02 PM
I know exactly what you mean and have been through with raising your voice with the family.

Why, not too long ago, we were having a dinner party and my wife and I got into an argument about how I had burned a chilicheese tostito chip dip. She was getting flustered and embarassed. I finally had enough and emphatically said, "Woman, now you listen here and be quiet!" in front of everyone that was around. By the end of that conversation, I had her crawling on her hands and knees. She was scrambling to either side of the bed looking under it and telling me to get my cowardly @$$ out from under it. :)

scott023
10-16-2010, 12:19 PM
I know exactly what you mean and have been through with raising your voice with the family.

Why, not too long ago, we were having a dinner party and my wife and I got into an argument about how I had burned a chilicheese tostito chip dip. She was getting flustered and embarassed. I finally had enough and emphatically said, "Woman, now you listen here and be quiet!" in front of everyone that was around. By the end of that conversation, I had her crawling on her hands and knees. She was scrambling to either side of the bed looking under it and telling me to get my cowardly @$$ out from under it. :)

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TX.X-30 fan
10-16-2010, 12:22 PM
Every wife needs to be put in her place on occasion, don't feel bad it actually creates a more harmonious balance in nature and rights the listing ship...........:D



Where is X2m when I need her..................8p



Might want to use a double boiler next time with the cheese, helps prevent the cheese from breaking.....

TX.X-30 fan
10-16-2010, 12:24 PM
:eek: :eek: :eek:


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Stifle Drucker and go back to watching/whacking to Bobby Orr highlight tapes................:D

Double D
10-16-2010, 02:58 PM
I would be pissed off to no end if someone touched my truck or thought they knew any better about loading my boat!! Morons everywhere!!

dtc
10-16-2010, 04:00 PM
@ dummy - glad it all worked out okay, and that nothing more expensive or permanent happened (including divorce!).

@ rholmes - lol! you just cracked up my whole cockpit crew and might have made some soda/coffee spray on very expensive computers!

BriEOD
10-18-2010, 05:52 PM
I wasn't there and don't have all the facts, but why didn't you just go into reverse as you were coming into the trailer and just stop and hold yourself off on one of the guide poles? Just a thought, and again, easy to be a Monday Morning QB.

I'm sure those guys thought they were helping, but that takes some nerve! I hate public boat ramps for this very reason. Glad everything ended up OK and you didn't damage the boat.

BriEOD
10-18-2010, 05:56 PM
Every wife needs to be put in her place on occasion, don't feel bad it actually creates a more harmonious balance in nature and rights the listing ship...........:D



Stu, you are so full of chocolate dude! I bet your wife dominates your behind.

flipper
10-18-2010, 06:03 PM
I would have went ape$h!t on them

flipper
10-18-2010, 06:04 PM
Stu, you are so full of chocolate dude! I bet your wife dominates your behind.
There are pic on the darkside of this

TX.X-30 fan
10-18-2010, 07:36 PM
Stu, you are so full of chocolate dude! I bet your wife dominates your behind.




Hay lets leave my behind oot of this OK......................:D



I do let her steer the vessel on occasion thought if that's what you mean............8p

CantRepeat
10-18-2010, 07:50 PM
I'd teach your wife to back the trailer. That way when some drunken arsehole comes along she can tell that fooker where to get off! My wife backs a tailer better then most of the men I see on the ramp! I love it when they just stair at her driving a 91 suburban and 23 feet of trailer and she never needs to "pull forward" to fix her line!

MariStar-Man
10-18-2010, 09:58 PM
Dummy that was a great story...I was hoping that the guys who got in yer truck had fallen into the water or something...Never the less, it's lucky they didn't back it into the water's nowhere return...

http://www.westbranchboatclub.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Truck-in-the-Water-5-533x400.jpg



I'd teach your wife to back the trailer. That way when some drunken arsehole comes along she can tell that fooker where to get off! My wife backs a tailer better then most of the men I see on the ramp! I love it when they just stair at her driving a 91 suburban and 23 feet of trailer and she never needs to "pull forward" to fix her line!

How did ya teach your wife to do that one?

coz
10-18-2010, 10:23 PM
How did ya teach your wife to do that one?

By using the boat, how'd ya think? :D

dummy
10-18-2010, 11:30 PM
I honestly don't know why I didn't hold off and leave the boat between the guide poles. In hindsight (always 20/20, right) it was the thing to do. Partially I guess my mind was still trying to grasp what had just gone down and loading the boat became secondary.

As to teaching the wife to back the truck, I've tried. It's a 4x4 Dodge Megacab. Pretty good turning, but it's still a beast in her eyes. She can barely pull it in our driveway going forward without smacking the side on our gate, let alone back it up hooked to a trailer. I've got more $$$ in my truck than the boat, so I just drive the truck. Normally it's easier.

Gotta say I've been going to Havasu for only 4 years and up until this trip I haven't really understood why most have a chip on their shoulders about this place. I understand now. Nothing but whahoos and goofballs this weekend. Everything from bass boats cutting right in front of you when pulling a boarder (there's a bass tourney going on this weekend) to yokels doing power turns 20-feet around our kids on floaties. If ever murder was an option for me this was the weekend it may have happened!

Sodar
10-18-2010, 11:34 PM
Hava-zoo. That is an incredible story, though. In all the years I have been going to the river, I can say I have never had anyone jump into my truck and move it!

Go easy on the go fast guys, too. Many (not all) are very experienced and all around good guys. Some of them are even among us. :rolleyes:

CantRepeat
10-19-2010, 12:02 AM
The best way to teach your wife to back a trailer, I want cash for this tip!!

Just tell her to get to the point that the trailer is in both mirrors and she can see the ramp in both mirrors. It wont matter what kind of vehicle or boat you have.

Now with the ramp and the boat in both mirrors all she has to do is hold the steering wheel at the top and look in the mirrors. Tell her to turn towards which ever mirror has to much boat in it. That will straighten the boat out and put her in the middle of the ramp.

It's awesome to see my wife back up 50 feet and never need to pull forward to reset the line. The best part, like I said, is watching all the bass boat dudes just watch her sling the trailer around to the ramp.

scott023
10-19-2010, 08:58 AM
Stu, you are so full of chocolate dude! I bet your wife dominates your behind.

You sir would be right on with that assessment.

Latetowork
10-19-2010, 09:56 AM
I've learned to lock my truck. Ford Super Duty with the door keypad.

Drop the trailer in, lock the truck, load the boat.

I've only had one guy try to "help", and it ended up being a hands waving conversation about how I locked my keys in my truck....... and then I opened my truck and pulled my boat out.

bobx1
10-19-2010, 10:25 AM
I guess I am a little confused. If I was at the ramp and see a Mega Cab full of a wife, kids (one screaming), and a cat with a person loading solo in the dark, I would have tried (or asked) to help. Did they ask your wife if they could help and she said "yes"?

I have asked several women at the ramp (when they were attempting to back the trailer down) if they needed help - my motives being to try to drop stress levels in their marriage and to get the ramp traffic moving again.

From my experience, a lot of people like this (including me) have good intentions. This may not be the case in this situation but wanted to throw my comment into the mix.

broncotw
10-19-2010, 10:29 AM
What happened to the cat?

thatsmrmastercraft
10-19-2010, 10:34 AM
What happened to the cat?

Tire chock???

dummy
10-19-2010, 01:33 PM
Why is it some women trust a complete drunken stranger over their own husbands? That's it. Never experienced anything like this and just had to rant. Seems rather incredible to me that these guys felt the need to "help" to that degree. I guess their intentions were well-meant.

From my original post. Yeah, I understand they were trying to help. I got that - even as I was unloading on them. But if I don't know what I'm doing I'm not about to go offering my "expertise." I've never launched a pontoon or Magic myself, so I'm not about to tell anybody driving one of those how to recover one. Hell, I wouldn't even tell somebody with another V-drive how to launch/recover their own rig unless they asked. I encounter a similar phenomenon all the time in the 4x4 world. I'll be heading up a gnarly, technical trail and some goober will jump in front of my Jeep and try to spot me up his line, hang off my Jeep, shout directions,etc when I never ask for it. I just wave them off or completely ignore 'em and keep on my course and make it to the top my own way. Some guys just think they know better than everybody else.

As to how it went down, I guess while I was heading over to the boat one dude ran up, opened the door, and told my wife "your husband doesn't have his trailer deep enough. We'll back it up for you." She was so surprised she just kinda said "okay" at the same time he was hopping into the driver's seat. Again, I could've handled it differently, but aside from a crying baby there was nothing to let them think we needed any help. No big scene on the water, fumbling with dock lines, yelling, or anything like that. Anyway, I'm over it now. Wife knows to politely refuse and outside "help" and I know to lock the tow rig doors on the ramp!

(edit - Cat? Oh, man that's a riot. No - the cat was back at the rental house. Too funny!)

TX.X-30 fan
10-19-2010, 01:46 PM
You sir would be right on with that assessment.




Price check in feminine hygiene now scoot...........

suiterob
10-19-2010, 04:33 PM
Hava-zoo. That is an incredible story, though. In all the years I have been going to the river, I can say I have never had anyone jump into my truck and move it!

Go easy on the go fast guys, too. Many (not all) are very experienced and all around good guys. Some of them are even among us. :rolleyes:

Hava-zoo is right!! I've only been there a handful of times but find myself going further upriver to Lake Mohave. Boating by day then gambling and buffet's in the casino's at night in Laughlin has always been alot of fun!!