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Goinbroke
10-13-2010, 12:28 PM
Have you seen this video?
http://www.alliancewake.com/wake/parks-bonifays-new-edition-mastercraft-x-star/
Clearly a Caddy symbol on the top of the motor.
Looking for more details, is it all aluminum? which boats will it offered in?
I like what I'm seeing.

Thoughts?

x-swagger
10-13-2010, 12:42 PM
HOLLLLLLLY CRAP that X-star is awesome, curious about the engine as well..

Adam Wanichek
10-13-2010, 12:43 PM
Thats the new 6.2 from the Caddy CTS-V. The next evolution of Marine motors from GM, 5.7-6.0-6.2-now 6.2sc. Should be fun, basically a detuned ZR1 vette motor, 556hp in the CTS-v, so a little more for a marine application.

broncotw
10-13-2010, 12:44 PM
If I am not mistaken that's the same motor Cadillac offers in the CTSV (565 HP)....

scott023
10-13-2010, 12:54 PM
That is the same 6.2L motor that is in the '09-10 Cadillac CTS-V. It has 556hp and 551 lb-ft torque.

D3skier
10-13-2010, 01:53 PM
that boat is PHAT!!! but still don't like the pickle fork nose. Then again what do I know, I'm just a lousy slalom skier

scott023
10-13-2010, 01:57 PM
that boat is PHAT!!! but still don't like the pickle fork nose. Then again what do I know, I'm just a lousy slalom skier

I love the pickle fork bow.:D

Prostar19
10-13-2010, 02:03 PM
It's the supercharged 6.2 offered by Indmar. I think it is going in the MasterCraft X35, X45, X55 and XStar. something like 540 hp.

JLeuck64
10-13-2010, 02:36 PM
Hmmm been wondering if MC would ever build another barefoot specific model... could this be the power plant to drop in a closed bow?

Goinbroke
10-13-2010, 02:43 PM
Ya, thats why I asked if it was aluminum. That would be perfect!

Adam Wanichek
10-13-2010, 03:08 PM
http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/general-boating-discussion/219294-gm-small-blocks-ls9-lsa-4.html

looks ike they are aluminum for marine apps as well.

Goinbroke
10-13-2010, 04:49 PM
That should net roughly the same weight as the lY6?
YES PLEASE, wonder what the price will be??

JDK
10-13-2010, 05:44 PM
What happened to all the MasterCraft hype about using an Ilmore engine.

I'd rather have a normally aspirated Viper engine @ 570 hp. (8.3L) than this supercharged Caddy engine @ 540 hp (6.2L).

Goinbroke
10-13-2010, 08:57 PM
Dealer thinks its a 17-20K option!
ouch.....

Timbo126
10-13-2010, 10:07 PM
I'm pretty sure I heard from my dealer that this motor is taking the place of the big block motor which are not being offered anymore.

scott023
10-14-2010, 09:54 AM
What happened to all the MasterCraft hype about using an Ilmore engine.

I'd rather have a normally aspirated Viper engine @ 570 hp. (8.3L) than this supercharged Caddy engine @ 540 hp (6.2L).

You're kidding, right? Have you ever seen the size of that V-10? You want that in a boat? Doesn't seem logical at all.

mpabreo
10-14-2010, 10:26 AM
Think he aint loading that thing down?

http://www.alliancewake.com/wake/parks-double-or-nothing-video/

62360

Goinbroke
10-14-2010, 10:55 AM
Thats funny, ya just touch over what is recommended by MC.....like 4000lbs more!

JDK
10-14-2010, 01:15 PM
You're kidding, right? Have you ever seen the size of that V-10? You want that in a boat? Doesn't seem logical at all.

Kidding?? ....
http://www.tradeonlytoday.com/home/504933-engine-builder-opens-north-carolina-headquarters

Logical?? .... in an Xstar with plenty of room and is going to get loaded with hundreds (or thousands) of pounds of ballast. In this application, where weight and physical size are not issues, I'd take a naturally aspirated marine engine over this boosted car engine any day.

If the costs of these engines are similar, the Ilmore is a no brainer
http://www.ilmor.com/marine/gen-III.html

scott023
10-14-2010, 03:06 PM
Kidding?? ....
http://www.tradeonlytoday.com/home/504933-engine-builder-opens-north-carolina-headquarters

Logical?? .... in an Xstar with plenty of room and is going to get loaded with hundreds (or thousands) of pounds of ballast. In this application, where weight and physical size are not issues, I'd take a naturally aspirated marine engine over this boosted car engine any day.

If the costs of these engines are similar, the Ilmore is a no brainer
http://www.ilmor.com/marine/gen-III.html

Weight and size aren't issues in a boat? The length of that motor alone would cut into interior space significantly.

Goinbroke
10-14-2010, 03:13 PM
Not sure, but I bet supercharged 6.2L is more fuel efficient?

Sodar
10-14-2010, 03:22 PM
Weight and size aren't issues in a boat? The length of that motor alone would cut into interior space significantly.

Yeah. The Ilmors are over 3' in length, plus the tranny/v-drive. A bigger block than the 6.2L for sure!

scott023
10-14-2010, 04:29 PM
Not sure, but I bet supercharged 6.2L is more fuel efficient?

Dang rights it would be.

scott023
10-14-2010, 04:33 PM
CTS-V 6.2L - rated 17/25
Viper 8.4L - rated 11/20

Forrest-X45
10-14-2010, 04:34 PM
Kidding?? ....
http://www.tradeonlytoday.com/home/504933-engine-builder-opens-north-carolina-headquarters

Logical?? .... in an Xstar with plenty of room and is going to get loaded with hundreds (or thousands) of pounds of ballast. In this application, where weight and physical size are not issues, I'd take a naturally aspirated marine engine over this boosted car engine any day.

If the costs of these engines are similar, the Ilmore is a no brainer
http://www.ilmor.com/marine/gen-III.html

I assume Ilmor will stop offering Viper V10 engines in the very near future since Dodge has discontiued building the Viper......so no more V10's and Chrysler doesn't have a marine divison like GM.
Sad to say but the days of big displacement NA engines is going the way of the dodo. :(

thatsmrmastercraft
10-14-2010, 05:56 PM
I assume Ilmor will stop offering Viper V10 engines in the very near future since Dodge has discontiued building the Viper......so no more V10's and Chrysler doesn't have a marine divison like GM.
Sad to say but the days of big displacement NA engines is going the way of the dodo. :(

They are going to become president? :D

JDK
10-14-2010, 07:14 PM
Weight and size aren't issues in a boat? The length of that motor alone would cut into interior space significantly.


Not trying to be a smart ***, but have you ever been in a fully loaded (people and ballast) Xstar or X45? An extra 400 lbs in the engine compartment is just a bonus for the guys I know that have these boats..... an would be almost un-noticable when unloaded.

TX.X-30 fan
10-14-2010, 09:15 PM
Not trying to be a smart ***, but have you ever been in a fully loaded (people and ballast) Xstar or X45? An extra 400 lbs in the engine compartment is just a bonus for the guys I know that have these boats..... an would be almost un-noticable when unloaded.





I going way oot on a limb but my guess is he has been in the aforementioned 45.....:D

mccobmd
10-14-2010, 10:50 PM
I going way oot on a limb but my guess is he has been in the aforementioned 45.....:D

Now Tx, it's dangerous to assume someone has been out on their boat. Personally I keep mine in storage and just wax it and oil the teak!!:D:D

JDK
10-14-2010, 11:07 PM
I going way oot on a limb but my guess is he has been in the aforementioned 45.....:D

......Doh!!!! ... I'm guessing he probably owns the aforementioned 45 too!!8p

Sounds like it's not been sacked up though.8p

cbryan70
10-14-2010, 11:09 PM
I believe viper is going through a redesign.....jus sayin

scott023
10-14-2010, 11:48 PM
......Doh!!!! ... I'm guessing he probably owns the aforementioned 45 too!!8p

Sounds like it's not been sacked up though.8p

It has been sacked up... but those sacs give me an option for wake. I have a 8 year ond that surfs behind and I would not want all the extra weight (be it ballast or motor weight) for when she's back there. Putting the Viper motor in would siginificantly reduce the amount of play an operator would have with the wake. Just my two cents.

FancySauceRules
10-14-2010, 11:53 PM
My car has over 12,000 miles on one of these new direct injected supercharged V-8's....and from mile 1, I have wondered how I could get it in my boat! :D

vision
10-15-2010, 12:07 PM
What is the efficiency of a naturally aspirated large displacement engine versus a smaller displacement super charged engine of the same horsepower? In theory, a smaller, lighter super charged engine should be more efficient.

But then again, I do not see auto manufacturers using smaller supercharged engines in their compacts instead of slightly larger naturally aspirated engines. Is that just because of the increased cost?

Also, is the life expectancy of a naturally aspirated engine better?

TX.X-30 fan
10-15-2010, 12:19 PM
......Doh!!!! ... I'm guessing he probably owns the aforementioned 45 too!!8p

Sounds like it's not been sacked up though.8p




When I see a location similar to yours I try and type slower............:D

mccobmd
10-15-2010, 12:58 PM
When I see a location similar to yours I try and type slower............:D

Could you repeat that for me, only a little slower AND louder???

TX.X-30 fan
10-15-2010, 01:36 PM
Could you repeat that for me, only a little slower AND louder???






HEAD------FOR----THE------ROOT-----CELLAR-----GOOD----LUCK!!!!!

ksdaoski
10-15-2010, 02:14 PM
What is the efficiency of a naturally aspirated large displacement engine versus a smaller displacement super charged engine of the same horsepower? In theory, a smaller, lighter super charged engine should be more efficient.


Also, is the life expectancy of a naturally aspirated engine better?

Generally, forced induction (FI) will generate better gas mileage than a NA engine. Of course this can vary, depending on how aggressive the tune and boost is.

In the near future, you'll start to see more and more FI V6's doing the job of current NA V8's, in trucks, sports cars, etc, as car companies start looking for ways to drive MPG higher. Ford has a FI V6 F150 coming out, I believe for 2011, thats putting out more HP than the base V8, and at a significant higher MPG, with the same towing capacity. Downside are costs are currently higher, more moving parts, more to go wrong. However, these issues continue to decrease, as the technology improves, and becomes more common place.

ksdaoski
10-15-2010, 02:26 PM
START FORD COMMERCIAL NOW:
365hp 420lb-pds 11,300lbs towing capacity All from a 3.5L V6
http://media.ford.com/images/10031/2011_F150_EcoBoost.pdf

Also have a 3.7L with 300hp that will get 17/23mpg
http://media.ford.com/images/10031/2011_F150_V6.pdf

Compared with the current 4.6L V8 with 242hp that only gets 14/19

All because of the FI-

vision
10-18-2010, 03:10 PM
I wonder if anyone has converted their trusty 5.7L MCX to a forced induction engine? I am sure there are kits out there for the auto version of the 5.7L block, but I assume that the marine version would certainly require different tuning considering the lower operating temp and higher general RPMs.

jason95gt
10-20-2010, 03:26 PM
A couple years ago, there was a X-80 for sale on Ebay that had twin supercharged MCX's. In the listing, it said that it did over 55mph.