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venetrex
10-13-2010, 10:53 AM
I was thinking of replacing my jl audio tower speakers with the krypt hlcd 8 inch speakers. Are these a direct fit? Are they going to be a significant improvement. I have a jl audio hd600 amp powering them 150rms x4. My cockpit speakers are blown so I was going to put the tower speakers in the cockpit. Would that be okay. The krypt speakers are on sale. Are they high quality?

Thrall
10-13-2010, 01:28 PM
Dunno about the Krypts, but it was explained to me that the JL tower speakers are designed to be used in an enclosure (can) whereas the cockpit drivers are designed for open air.
I couldn't "see" any difference, but they are a different part #.
Throw a couple in and see how they sound I guess.

rgardjr1
10-13-2010, 03:04 PM
I was thinking of replacing my jl audio tower speakers with the krypt hlcd 8 inch speakers. Are these a direct fit?

There is a thread about the dropping the Bullet 770 HP into the Mastercraft cans. The hole pattern doesn't line up so there is some drilling and tapping involved from what I remember. I found the thread:
http://www.mastercraft.com/teamtalk/showthread.php?t=24950

BNIROOSTER
10-27-2010, 12:49 PM
I was thinking of replacing my jl audio tower speakers with the krypt hlcd 8 inch speakers. Are these a direct fit? Are they going to be a significant improvement. I have a jl audio hd600 amp powering them 150rms x4. My cockpit speakers are blown so I was going to put the tower speakers in the cockpit. Would that be okay. The krypt speakers are on sale. Are they high quality?

If the JL can is a 7.7 they will fit. The krypt hlcd is an awesome speaker! I have six on my tower! The JLs should be fine in the cockpit, just depends if you like the sound.

swatguy
10-27-2010, 03:00 PM
The Krypts are a decent speaker. I have 2. Sound great and were a steal at the price I got them for. They are clear and crisp and have great sound

You definitely get what you pay for in their design for cutting costs. The cross overs are not sealed and the grilles are flimsy. Sound quality(the most important if you ask me) is great though. Customer service from Krypt is soso whereas Bullets is top notch.

I got the Krypts when they first came out to replace my MB Quarts on my tower. Again I got them for a smoking deal as a group buy to get some of their product out there. If you are looking for the cheapest way for HLCD sound they are the way to go. However if you are looking for a bit better fit/finish and customer service the Bullet Hollow Points can't be beat. Just kind of up to you on what you prefer. I am not sure how they fit the MC Cans, but I just had to redrill my hole pattern in my aftermarket cans and they fit perfectly.

nmcjr
10-28-2010, 12:11 AM
I'll give my recommendation for the Bullet's, even though that's not what you asked per se, but I have heard too that they will fit in the factory cans and sound amazing. I can't compare them to the Krypts because I have never heard the Krypts but you can't ask for better sound than the Bullet's. They are a local company to me and I have met the owner who is a really good guy with a very good reputation.

venetrex
05-04-2011, 02:34 PM
I ordered the Bullets from Earmark and am in the process of installing them. I did not want to drill my cans. I took the adjusting ring out, which is what the factory speakers bolk to. 2 holes lined up and 2 did not. I bought Aluminum nuts that look like rivets at my local hardware store. I dilled the slot the right size and the rivet like nut fit tight. I used some epoxy to keep it from spinning. I then files everything down clean. This is definately the better way, you can leave the cans on the tower. I will post some pics

frosty
05-04-2011, 03:02 PM
As per David @ Earmark's recommendation, I ordered the Bullet 770 Neo's (the new ones - sometime called the 'Signature Series') that are a drop in fit to the 2005 and up MC/Gere Marie speaker cans.
Supposed to have the same screw orientation as the JL's... no drilling!
They have only been out for a few weeks now.
The older Bullet 770 have a different mounting screw setup, hence the need for drilling.

agarabaghi
05-04-2011, 03:12 PM
jesus do you think you have enough speakers on that tower? But seriously how loud could you possibly need?

I have 1 set of WetSound Pro 485 (HLCD horn, 2 8" speakers) you can hear it across the lake perfectly fine at 3/4 the volume. Just sitting on the boat if you turn up that load while not pulling a ride, its basically unbearable...

Maybe those 6 = 1 Pro 485 pod? I dunno but that seems like excessive overkill lol...

venetrex
05-04-2011, 06:07 PM
I forgot to mention I put the JL audio TCS in the boat and they sound fine.

BNIROOSTER
05-04-2011, 07:30 PM
jesus do you think you have enough speakers on that tower? But seriously how loud could you possibly need?

I have 1 set of WetSound Pro 485 (HLCD horn, 2 8" speakers) you can hear it across the lake perfectly fine at 3/4 the volume. Just sitting on the boat if you turn up that load while not pulling a ride, its basically unbearable...

Maybe those 6 = 1 Pro 485 pod? I dunno but that seems like excessive overkill lol...

....not sure if you are directing your comment to me or not, but I will answer anyhow. Lol it's not that I can hear it across the lake ITS SO YOU CAN HEAR IT ACROSS THE LAKE and so I dont have to hear other ppls music. As for your comment on the pro 485, I think its a fine unit and I may have bought one with a few pro 80s if I didnt already have the Krypts. As for 1 485 equaling 6 Krypts.....not even on a great day! Dont get me wrong, wetsounds are great, I have several in my cockpit...but then again I believe in excess!

EarmarkMarine
05-04-2011, 10:22 PM
Venetrex,
Even though the JL Audio TC and CC versions of the 7.7" components look identical the midbass drivers are vastly different. The CC cockpit version is an infinite baffle that is designed for the expansive and compliant air mass in a gunnel or coaming cavity. This speaker is internally well damped. The TC tower version is optimized for the very small and sealed tower pod. It has far less mechanical damping because it is highly dependent on the rigid air mass and springyness of a small pod and is also trying to maintain a lower resonance in a small pod.
When you place a TC speaker in an infinite baffle its a little loose on the bottom and has a seriously reduced power handling on the midbass driver. So just be careful because these may not last in this application. JL Audio is one of the few speaker manufacturers to differentiate between these two applications. Its exactly like taking an acoustic suspension woofer and placing it in an infinite baffle.
David
Earmark Marine

Wake2004
05-05-2011, 12:48 AM
Venetrex,
Even though the JL Audio TC and CC versions of the 7.7" components look identical the midbass drivers are vastly different. The CC cockpit version is an infinite baffle that is designed for the expansive and compliant air mass in a gunnel or coaming cavity. This speaker is internally well damped. The TC tower version is optimized for the very small and sealed tower pod. It has far less mechanical damping because it is highly dependent on the rigid air mass and springyness of a small pod and is also trying to maintain a lower resonance in a small pod.
When you place a TC speaker in an infinite baffle its a little loose on the bottom and has a seriously reduced power handling on the midbass driver. So just be careful because these may not last in this application. JL Audio is one of the few speaker manufacturers to differentiate between these two applications. Its exactly like taking an acoustic suspension woofer and placing it in an infinite baffle.
David
Earmark Marine

Does that mean then that they have a third version when used with the pods with docking lights? As I believe that you have a post stating the lack of a true compartment on docking light pods which inturn is a very poor infinite baffle?

rgardjr1
05-05-2011, 12:56 AM
Does that mean then that they have a third version when used with the pods with docking lights? As I believe that you have a post stating the lack of a true compartment on docking light pods which inturn is a very poor infinite baffle?

I think I remember David said they make inserts for the cans with the forward lights to seal them. My guess is that the same speakers go in the tower cans with and without lights.

EarmarkMarine
05-05-2011, 11:05 AM
Yes, there are only two versions of JL Audio M series 7.7s other than various grill options.
The open pods featuring lights was an oversight. The pods themselves are not a JL product.

David
Earmark Marine

agarabaghi
05-05-2011, 11:11 AM
....not sure if you are directing your comment to me or not, but I will answer anyhow. Lol it's not that I can hear it across the lake ITS SO YOU CAN HEAR IT ACROSS THE LAKE and so I dont have to hear other ppls music. As for your comment on the pro 485, I think its a fine unit and I may have bought one with a few pro 80s if I didnt already have the Krypts. As for 1 485 equaling 6 Krypts.....not even on a great day! Dont get me wrong, wetsounds are great, I have several in my cockpit...but then again I believe in excess!

That sounds very respectful and considerate to others. We wonder why wakeboarders get a bad reputation.

venetrex
05-05-2011, 11:44 AM
Would putting baffles behind these speakers help with this??? I will say I've been tuning the cockpit with 150 watts rms from a jl audio mhd 600. Another question, is a jl audio mhd600 enough power for my bullet 7.7 hollowppoints? Or should I get one more and bridge them for 300w rms to each speaker??? I'll be testing next week once I get the tower speakers together. It's a lot of work to get those in there properly. Kudos to Earmark on their installations making it look easy!:cool: