X2 resale price??

[jpcarter]

I'm begging for help here. :confused:

I'm totally out of touch with pricing these days and I have a nice used X2 in my sights. I've looked at the NADA price but want to get a reality check. :o

How much should I pay for this X2 from a private owner?

* 2007 Mastercraft X-2
* RTP 310HP Engine
* 90HRS
* Blue, White/Silver Decals
* Blue Snap Covers
* Cockpit cover and middle add-on seat
* Blue Bimini Top
* Zero Flex Tower
* Triple Ballast Tanks
* Swivel Board Racks
* Tower Mirror
* Clarion CD/Stereo
* Drivers Stereo Remote
* Drivers I-pod/MP3 Input Jack
* JL Audio Component Speakers
* JL Audio Amplifier
* 10" JL Audio Subwoofer
* Depth Finder
* Air/Water Temp
* Teak Swim Platform W/Transom Saver
* Single Axle MasterCraft Trailer w/ brakes & spare
* The oil and transmission fluid were changed all three seasons by the Mastercraft dealer
* Boat was waxed 3-4 timers per year and it’s wiped down after every use
* The only options the boat does not have are perfect pass and tower speakers
* It does have the speed lock which is MasterCraft’s version of perfect pass

[Thrall]

No experience with the speed lock or MC cruise, but couple boats I looked at had that and the owners said it woked flawlessly. PP is cool, but for my purposes wasn't necessary even though I have it. About $5-600 over MC cruise as an option.
Tower speakers/amp could run anywhere from $1k to $5k just for the components depending on the setup.
Compare asking prices of a bunch of other boats, tons of X2's for sale.
Other options to add/subtract from the price:
Tandem trailer
Teak or Fiberglass deck, personal preference, but the 'glass decks cost alot more.
Heater
Shower
Bigger engine MCX or LY6 (not that the RTP is bad, it's got the same snort as the MCX thru most of the rpm range).
Wake plate
Add'l ballast plumbed in.
Is it gonna need a new lower pitch prop?
Little doo dads, LED lighting, transom remote, wash down hookup, tower lights.

It's worth what you're willing to pay!

[jpcarter]

Thanks for the insight, Thrall. I'd like to counteroffer, but don't want to insult the guy. Looks like '07 X2's are ALL over the place. From $39k to the low $60s. So confoozed.

[jdl xstar]

Thanks for the insight, Thrall. I'd like to counteroffer, but don't want to insult the guy. Looks like '07 X2's are ALL over the place. From $39k to the low $60s. So confoozed.

The boat you're looking at woudl fall on the lower end of the price spectrum you've seen since the boat doesn't have many of the major options that Thrall listed. The features the guy has listed are standard for the x series. Best thing going for the boat you are looking at is the hours. 90 is pretty low for an 07. Upper thirties is a fare price IMHO.

[Archimedes]

$35-37k, assuming it checked out perfect.

[Archimedes]

Thanks for the insight, Thrall. I'd like to counteroffer, but don't want to insult the guy. Looks like '07 X2's are ALL over the place. From $39k to the low $60s. So confoozed.

Let me clarify. Many people hit the crack pipe before they post their for sale ads. Others are sober but think if they put a high asking price, they can fool buyers into thinking they're getting a great deal when they agree to a lower price. This phenomena is most prevelant in the motorcycling community, but seems to have invaded the boating community as well during these tough economic times.

[Thrall]

Thanks for the insight, Thrall. I'd like to counteroffer, but don't want to insult the guy. Looks like '07 X2's are ALL over the place. From $39k to the low $60s. So confoozed.

Don't worry about insulting him. How many calls you get when you're selling your $10,000 whatever it is....riiiing, hello "Hey I'll give you $2000 and will you take payments?"
I get them every time I sell something.
Lowball the guy and see what he says. He might tell you to pound sand or he might say that's the best offer he's had, done deal.
Make sure you lowball him at first anyway. Kinda gives you buyer's remorse if you've already negotiated it a couple times in your head, come up with a fair price, thinking the seller is still going to want to negotiate a bit and they say "ok" without batting an eye.
Takes me a while to quit thinking "I wonder how much lower he would have gone?"

[SkiDog]

check out my ad for my X-2
http://www.mastercraft.com/market/showproduct.php?product=3246&cat=6

[Thrall]

check out my ad for my X-2
http://www.mastercraft.com/market/showproduct.php?product=3246&cat=6

You're givin' that thing away. How much $ does the SS pkg add when it's new?

[SkiDog]

You're givin' that thing away. How much $ does the SS pkg add when it's new?

About 5-6 grand I think. I know I am, but times are tough here. But let it be known that it ain't getting any cheaper!

[jpcarter]

Great advice. Thanks all. Keep it coming! Feel free to send more.

[jdl xstar]

Great advice. Thanks all. Keep it coming! Feel free to send more.

My advice would be to buy Skidog's and call it a day. You wont find a better price on an X2 with all the options it has- best of which is being a saltwater series version...

[sand2snow22]

I would stay away from this boat b/c of line item #2, 310 hp RTP. Hurts value and resale. Unless you can get an unheard of deal, say in the low to mid 30's. Even then, if you use it for a couple of years, put some hours on it will probably be worth high $20k's to $30k. It will be tough to sell with that motor unless you give a good deal.......


I'm begging for help here. :confused:

I'm totally out of touch with pricing these days and I have a nice used X2 in my sights. I've looked at the NADA price but want to get a reality check. :o

How much should I pay for this X2 from a private owner?

* 2007 Mastercraft X-2
* RTP 310HP Engine
* 90HRS
* Blue, White/Silver Decals
* Blue Snap Covers
* Cockpit cover and middle add-on seat
* Blue Bimini Top
* Zero Flex Tower
* Triple Ballast Tanks
* Swivel Board Racks
* Tower Mirror
* Clarion CD/Stereo
* Drivers Stereo Remote
* Drivers I-pod/MP3 Input Jack
* JL Audio Component Speakers
* JL Audio Amplifier
* 10" JL Audio Subwoofer
* Depth Finder
* Air/Water Temp
* Teak Swim Platform W/Transom Saver
* Single Axle MasterCraft Trailer w/ brakes & spare
* The oil and transmission fluid were changed all three seasons by the Mastercraft dealer
* Boat was waxed 3-4 timers per year and it’s wiped down after every use
* The only options the boat does not have are perfect pass and tower speakers
* It does have the speed lock which is MasterCraft’s version of perfect pass

[bturner2]

Ski Dog's boat is loaded compared to the one you're looking at. There's a ton of money in the tower (stereo, lights), tralier and the SS package. I believe the metal flake was an option too.

[mccobmd]

My advice would be to buy Skidog's and call it a day. You wont find a better price on an X2 with all the options it has- best of which is being a saltwater series version...

If I was looking for an X2 I would take along hard look. That is a good price for that boat. I was considering the jump from the X1 but decided to stay put.

[SkiDog]

If I was looking for an X2 I would take along hard look. That is a good price for that boat. I was considering the jump from the X1 but decided to stay put.

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[SkiDog]

If I was looking for an X2 I would take along hard look. That is a good price for that boat. I was considering the jump from the X1 but decided to stay put.

You might could sell your X1 to bbymgr and buy my X2!:D

[Jim@BAWS]

Personal opinion

X-2 Needs the MCX for sure

Jim@BAWS

[Thrall]

Great advice. Thanks all. Keep it coming! Feel free to send more.

Although the SS package is not something I'd pay extra for, don't need it, I'd buy Skidogs boat and get it for free.
Unless you got a smoking deal cooking on something else, his boat is definately in the lower end of the price spectrum for what you get. And less than 100hrs, ain't even broke in. I got more hrs a year on my PS 190 and it snows 7 months a year here!
check out www.jaxed.com, site MASH. It will list all CL and ebay adds for motorsports stuff in the country. Good for price checking if nothing else.

[SkiDog]

Although the SS package is not something I'd pay extra for, don't need it, I'd buy Skidogs boat and get it for free.
Unless you got a smoking deal cooking on something else, his boat is definately in the lower end of the price spectrum for what you get. And less than 100hrs, ain't even broke in. I got more hrs a year on my PS 190 and it snows 7 months a year here!
check out www.jaxed.com, site MASH. It will list all CL and ebay adds for motorsports stuff in the country. Good for price checking if nothing else.

BTW, my boat has 113.1 hours on it.

[Archimedes]

Although the SS package is not something I'd pay extra for, don't need it, I'd buy Skidogs boat and get it for free.
Unless you got a smoking deal cooking on something else, his boat is definately in the lower end of the price spectrum for what you get. And less than 100hrs, ain't even broke in. I got more hrs a year on my PS 190 and it snows 7 months a year here!
check out www.jaxed.com, site MASH. It will list all CL and ebay adds for motorsports stuff in the country. Good for price checking if nothing else.

As long as one doesn't interpret CL asking prices as market value. Those two things are about as comparable as apples and dryer lint.

[JohnE]

That is a phenomenal price for skidog's boat. Been in it and behind it personally. Great looking boat at a great price. I can't imagine it lasting long.

I personally would not buy anything with the RTP engine unless it were such a smoking deal that it were impossible to resist. And part of my reasoning would be for resale.

[bturner2]

Better have your boots on boys. The MCX stuff is getting pretty deep (again). Geez you'd think people were talking big block versus small block here. I have two words for anyone with a technical background..... Dyno Sheet The two engines run out almost exactly until they get towards the top of their functional RPM range. Now let's be truthful, when is the last time you went surfing or wake boarding at 4800 RPM? Do you really believe MC would sell a boat that "needed" a bigger motor to be a viable product in their product line?

I think this has been done before or another way of saying it would be beat to death. The MCX is real pretty and develops more horse power at the top end of the RPM range. Great for speed runs (if you call 50 MPH a speed run) or bare footing. For those of us that are surfing and wakeboarding at under 30 MPH, you're really not going to feel the difference between the RTP or MCX.

Resale could be a deciding factor but I would submit that I would rather have a real well taken care of RTP boat than a thrashed MCX. All things being equal the MCX is an easy choice but it is only one factor that should be taken into consideration when making your decision. Ski Dog's boat looks to give you the best of all worlds. Well optioned, well taken care of and the MCX to boot. Looks like a great deal to me.

[SkiDog]

That is a phenomenal price for skidog's boat. Been in it and behind it personally. Great looking boat at a great price. I can't imagine it lasting long.

I personally would not buy anything with the RTP engine unless it were such a smoking deal that it were impossible to resist. And part of my reasoning would be for resale.

Thanks John. Looks like I've got 3 players on it within the last 90 minutes. I Love this boat and will damn sure hate to see it go!:(

[ttu]

Better have your boots on boys. The MCX stuff is getting pretty deep (again). Geez you'd think people were talking big block versus small block here. I have two words for anyone with a technical background..... Dyno Sheet The two engines run out almost exactly until they get towards the top of their functional RPM range. Now let's be truthful, when is the last time you went surfing or wake boarding at 4800 RPM? Do you really believe MC would sell a boat that "needed" a bigger motor to be a viable product in their product line?

I think this has been done before or another way of saying it would be beat to death. The MCX is real pretty and develops more horse power at the top end of the RPM range. Great for speed runs (if you call 50 MPH a speed run) or bare footing. For those of us that are surfing and wakeboarding at under 30 MPH, you're really not going to feel the difference between the RTP or MCX.

Resale could be a deciding factor but I would submit that I would rather have a real well taken care of RTP boat than a thrashed MCX. All things being equal the MCX is an easy choice but it is only one factor that should be taken into consideration when making your decision. Ski Dog's boat looks to give you the best of all worlds. Well optioned, well taken care of and the MCX to boot. Looks like a great deal to me.

bturner, thank you so much for "finally" posting your reply! was just getting ready to hop in this thread when i read what you said. yes i have a 07 x2 with the "ugly looking" rtp 310 hp engine. i run factory ballast along with the high fly rear ballast (yes 800 lbs) along with 400 lbs of pop products up front. i have yet to have any big issues with getting my son on plane and to top that two of them boarding at the same time on plane. yes i am running the oj wakeprop. i have a friend with a cc 211 that has the pcm excalibur 343 hp with factory prop and 1/2 of the ballst i run and he has to adjust his hydrogate to pull his son and my son out of the water.:D

the mdx does bring some bigger resale and does look pretty but if you like the boat go for it.

btw, with the wakeprop i hit 39.9 with stargazer yesterday with no weight added.

[turbosdad]

check out my ad for my X-2
http://www.mastercraft.com/market/showproduct.php?product=3246&cat=6


I really like your boat................so much so that I bought one just like it.

[Kingsley X-1]

I really like your boat................so much so that I bought one just like it.

not the same boat...Dog has a teak platform....:D

[SkiDog]

I really like your boat................so much so that I bought one just like it.

Thanks Turbo! Like your too!

[Archimedes]

Better have your boots on boys. The MCX stuff is getting pretty deep (again). Geez you'd think people were talking big block versus small block here. I have two words for anyone with a technical background..... Dyno Sheet The two engines run out almost exactly until they get towards the top of their functional RPM range. Now let's be truthful, when is the last time you went surfing or wake boarding at 4800 RPM? Do you really believe MC would sell a boat that "needed" a bigger motor to be a viable product in their product line?


Yeah, I PM'd the OP with the very same advice. I also advised him to take everything said on here about how valuable used MCs are with a grain of salt.

[lettmeknow]

I would suggest buying Skidoggs boat as well. I have personally riden in and behind it. Although I am a slalom skier and prefer the 197, this boat is amazing! Don't let the saltwater use scare you. I know that he washed and cleaned the boat almost every other time he went out. This one is a no brainer!

[brucemac]

As long as one doesn't interpret CL asking prices as market value. Those two things are about as comparable as apples and dryer lint.

i would add one's personal failed attempt to sell their own boat along with NADA to that list as well.

not disagreeing 100% with you on values, but i think your personal experience and possibly your relative geographical location may sku your opinions a little farther from reality and other markets.

just sayin'.

[Datdude]

I'm begging for help here. :confused:

I'm totally out of touch with pricing these days and I have a nice used X2 in my sights. I've looked at the NADA price but want to get a reality check. :o

How much should I pay for this X2 from a private owner?

* 2007 Mastercraft X-2
* RTP 310HP Engine
* 90HRS
* Blue, White/Silver Decals
* Blue Snap Covers
* Cockpit cover and middle add-on seat
* Blue Bimini Top
* Zero Flex Tower
* Triple Ballast Tanks
* Swivel Board Racks
* Tower Mirror
* Clarion CD/Stereo
* Drivers Stereo Remote
* Drivers I-pod/MP3 Input Jack
* JL Audio Component Speakers
* JL Audio Amplifier
* 10" JL Audio Subwoofer
* Depth Finder
* Air/Water Temp
* Teak Swim Platform W/Transom Saver
* Single Axle MasterCraft Trailer w/ brakes & spare
* The oil and transmission fluid were changed all three seasons by the Mastercraft dealer
* Boat was waxed 3-4 timers per year and it’s wiped down after every use
* The only options the boat does not have are perfect pass and tower speakers
* It does have the speed lock which is MasterCraft’s version of perfect pass


Could I get the seller's phone number so I can call and tell him that you should not buy the X-2 equipped with a RTP? Thank you;):D

[Archimedes]

i would add one's personal failed attempt to sell their own boat along with NADA to that list as well.

not disagreeing 100% with you on values, but i think your personal experience and possibly your relative geographical location may sku your opinions a little farther from reality and other markets.

just sayin'.

Yes, I'm definately talking about Northern California, as that is the market I follow, but I'm not talking just about my boat. I have been all over the ads out here for the last 18 months and NOTHING is selling. Last 3 trips to the local dealer, months apart, the same left over boats were sitting there, at pretty darn low prices as well.

I think anyone coming on here asking for pricing advice is making a mistake. A forum of boat owners, a number of which are trying to sell their boats, and dealer reps is going to be just a bit biased. Couple that with the fact that many of the people on here, myself included, bought boats in the past 5 years at inflated prices, and you're liable to get some less than realistic data.

My advice to anyone buying a boat is to have cash in hand, find a boat you like, and offer below NADA. If they don't accept it, move on to the next boat you like and repeat. In this market, eventually someone will take your offer and you'll get a boat at a fair price.

[SkiDog]

Yes, I'm definately talking about Northern California, as that is the market I follow, but I'm not talking just about my boat. I have been all over the ads out here for the last 18 months and NOTHING is selling. Last 3 trips to the local dealer, months apart, the same left over boats were sitting there, at pretty darn low prices as well.

I think anyone coming on here asking for pricing advice is making a mistake. A forum of boat owners, a number of which are trying to sell their boats, and dealer reps is going to be just a bit biased. Couple that with the fact that many of the people on here, myself included, bought boats in the past 5 years at inflated prices, and you're liable to get some less than realistic data.

My advice to anyone buying a boat is to have cash in hand, find a boat you like, and offer below NADA. If they don't accept it, move on to the next boat you like and repeat. In this market, eventually someone will take your offer and you'll get a boat at a fair price.


You know how to stick a dagger through the heart!:mad:

[jpcarter]

And that boat is now sold to a first time MS owner... Thanks SkiDog! Looking forward to seeing it in person!

[Diamond Dawg]

And that boat is now sold to a first time MS owner... Thanks SkiDog! Looking forward to seeing it in person!

congrats on the purhase!

[scott023]

And that boat is now sold to a first time MS owner... Thanks SkiDog! Looking forward to seeing it in person!

You bought it? Great purchase if so...

[DemolitionMan]

Congratulations!!! Are you going to bring it up to CSM?

[SkiDog]

I appreciate it as well! Although I REALLY hate to see it go! I forgot to tell you that part of the deal is that you gotta bring it to CSM this year! I promise you it will be a GREAT time!

[jpcarter]

Sold! (again)

[kev88]

bturner, thank you so much for "finally" posting your reply! was just getting ready to hop in this thread when i read what you said. yes i have a 07 x2 with the "ugly looking" rtp 310 hp engine. i run factory ballast along with the high fly rear ballast (yes 800 lbs) along with 400 lbs of pop products up front. i have yet to have any big issues with getting my son on plane and to top that two of them boarding at the same time on plane. yes i am running the oj wakeprop. i have a friend with a cc 211 that has the pcm excalibur 343 hp with factory prop and 1/2 of the ballst i run and he has to adjust his hydrogate to pull his son and my son out of the water.:D

the mdx does bring some bigger resale and does look pretty but if you like the boat go for it.

btw, with the wakeprop i hit 39.9 with stargazer yesterday with no weight added.

Yes my dealer, who carries a terrific reputation, orders all their X-2s with the RTP because the MDX is simply not needed - they also re-sale these same boats without issue.....

[SkiDog]

Sold! (again)

Are you familiar with the CSM event we are having? i think I told you about it the other night on the phone.

[DemolitionMan]

Will the x2 ride again at CSM.

[jpcarter]

Will the x2 ride again at CSM.

I think it just became an ex post facto condition of the sale. :cool:

[mccobmd]

Congratulations, that is a great boat, even better for the price.

[ttu]

Are you familiar with the CSM event we are having? i think I told you about it the other night on the phone.

congrats on the sale. a win/win for both parties:toast:

skidog, what are you going to get now?

[ediggity]

congrats on the new boat... very nice and a great deal!

[SkiDog]

Well, JP Carter picked up his new to him 2007 SS X-2 today. He left with it about 5:30 this afternoon.:( He couldn't have been any happier! Enjoy your new boat and call me if you need anything!

[Thrall]

JP, you got a sweet boat at a good price too!

[SkiDog]

looks good behind HIS truck too! Took this pic with my Droid.

[D3skier]

congrats on the sale and purchase JP and skidog....

[Thrall]

looks good behind HIS truck too! Took this pic with my Droid.

D@mn that's sharp. I like the black boat I got, but would have been all over that one like a fat kid on a candy bar if it was for sale last year (and you didn't live 3000mi from here!:D)

[SkiDog]

Thanks. He's supposed to upload some pics with the boat & family today sometime.

[jpcarter]

Yep. I am so VERY happy:
1) that I have a GREAT X2 now
2) that it made it home 6 hours later at 12:15am.

My 11 & 13 year old boys were up at 6:15am this morning yanking the cover off. Might as well be Christmas as excited as they are.
No pictures yet. Reality and my normal overloaded life have made their presence known. Will try to get it wet tomorrow night.

[SkiDog]

Yep. I am so VERY happy:
1) that I have a GREAT X2 now
2) that it made it home 6 hours later at 12:15am.

My 11 & 13 year old boys were up at 6:15am this morning yanking the cover off. Might as well be Christmas as excited as they are.
No pictures yet. Reality and my normal overloaded life have made their presence known. Will try to get it wet tomorrow night.

Glad you made it home safe and with NO issues! See you in a couple of weeks!;)