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ksdaoski
03-14-2010, 09:29 AM
Took the seat bottoms from my 88 Prostar into a shop yesterday. Guy doing the work recommended eliminating the pieced, vertical strips (see pictures). He stated the seams collect and absorb water, ultimately deteriorating faster. Whereas a smooth seat should withstand abuse better. I bought the reasoning, but now having second thoughts. Anyone else eliminated the piecing? He said he could do it either way-

Thoughts?

Thanks
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ksdaoski
03-14-2010, 09:32 AM
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FrankSchwab
03-14-2010, 01:04 PM
Well, the previous seats lasted 30 years.

How many do you expect out of this set of skins?

tph
03-14-2010, 03:23 PM
Your guy is probably right but I like the look of the stitching.

91ps190
03-14-2010, 07:08 PM
I had my spoter seat and rear bench recovered a couple of years ago and I opted for removing the seams. They look better with the seams but only marginally (to me).

ksdaoski
03-14-2010, 07:42 PM
do you have any pictures?

JimN
03-14-2010, 07:58 PM
Took the seat bottoms from my 88 Prostar into a shop yesterday. Guy doing the work recommended eliminating the pieced, vertical strips (see pictures). He stated the seams collect and absorb water, ultimately deteriorating faster. Whereas a smooth seat should withstand abuse better. I bought the reasoning, but now having second thoughts. Anyone else eliminated the piecing? He said he could do it either way-

Thoughts?

Thanks


He said they collect water and withstand abuse better but the main area is where the material is cut. Hmmm

Seats look pretty boring without them. The long seam is there because there's a strip of material that anchors the skin to the base and there are two separate pieces of foam on that cushion.

91ps190
03-14-2010, 08:08 PM
do you have any pictures?

No and I can't get any as the boat is in storage. Sorry.

Kevin 89MC
03-15-2010, 01:06 PM
Interesting question. I assume you're talking about the seams running "north-south" (parallel to the keel) for lack of a better description? I'd guess it would be cheaper without those seams, that's a fair amount of labor with all the added stitching. The seam running "east-west" is needed for the different seat foam heights, as Jim pointed out. Here are a few pics of mine, I went the "easy" route and eliminated the n-s seams, and even the "piping". I have since re-streched the observer's seat, to eliminate the shadowing of the foam cuts. It does look a bit plain, but better than the busted old seats, and much cheaper, as I did it myself. Not sure what I'll do when I decide to re-upolster the whole boat.
Kevin

ksdaoski
03-15-2010, 01:11 PM
you are correct, the north to south seams.
thanks for posting those pictures. you are correct, a little plainer. But probably a better call to keep them looking better, longer-

atlfootr
04-08-2010, 09:51 AM
Definitely call Jim!

atlfootr
04-08-2010, 10:03 AM
Your guy is probably right but I like the look of the stitching.

Jim put these skins together for me last year.
They took a while to get but the wait was worth it.

I now have a great deal of respect for anyone who installs the skins.
It's really a workout on the hands. Plus, I used over 2000 stainless staples.

Jim does great work. He included every little piece you need plus he sells fabric by the yard. The only problem I ran into was that the skin for the motorbox was a bit larger than the original. After adding an inch of foam to the box, everything worked out fine.

I definitely recommend Jim.

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And I myself, couldn't agree more!
Thanks tph for using Jim on my recommendation.

Your MC looks fantastic!
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ksdaoski
04-08-2010, 10:06 AM
and how much would 3 seat bottoms skins cost? roughly?

88inNH
04-08-2010, 01:15 PM
I was going to ask if you were just doing the cushions or the whole seats because the bases looked perfect. I would have taken them off your hands to redo my boat (88, same color scheme).

As far as the seam debate goes, in addition to looking better it seems (pun intended) they'd be more comfortable against bare, sweaty legs than a flat piece of vinyl. And, the vinyl seems to fail more on that "X" embossed flat portion than the "ripples".