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scharette
03-07-2010, 06:18 PM
Hello All!

I did a search on teamtalk and cannot find a thread on DIY upholstery. My girlfriend has an industrial sewing machine so we will try to redo a simple cushion. if we have a succes we will also redo the bow panel.


Can someone tell me from those pictures if this skin was an original OEM. The material of the cushion does not seem to be high quality marine foam.

Also if someone has good picture of a cushion that was taken apart it would be appreciated.




http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4048/4415260902_567b6a8c5c.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4019/4414583967_ece614c75d.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4061/4415352850_d41706ef55.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4006/4415340966_e632a6f840.jpg

JimN
03-07-2010, 08:13 PM
Hello All!

I did a search on teamtalk and cannot find a thread on DIY upholstery. My girlfriend has an industrial sewing machine so we will try to redo a simple cushion. if we have a succes we will also redo the bow panel.


Can someone tell me from those pictures if this skin was an original OEM. The material of the cushion does not seem to be high quality marine foam.

Also if someone has good picture of a cushion that was taken apart it would be appreciated.

It looks original and it also looks like that seam ripped quite some time ago. That's why the foam yellowed so much- air, water and whatever sunlight could get in. You can see that the areas that weren't exposed to these is much lighter. I would guess that this cushion has been used as a step, for getting in and out of the boat. I would recommend not doing that, or at least not stepping on any seams.

As usual, the old skin should be used as the pattern for the replacement. If she does this kind of thing, she may have a steamer, and that will make it fit much better. If she doesn't, go to an auto upholstery shop to see if you can use theirs.

scharette
03-07-2010, 08:39 PM
Jim, you are right, this cushion was like that when i bought the boat last spring.

I have found 2 small pieces of this thin plastic bag. Is it normally in a boat cushion ?

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2788/4415790864_39346fbc50.jpg

Jorski
03-07-2010, 09:37 PM
Yes. The plastic is inside the OEM cushions. Seems that they use the thin plastic so that the foam backed vinyl will slide over the foam cushion.

JimN
03-07-2010, 09:41 PM
And also the plastic helps keep water out of the foam. The cushions are turned inside-out before fitting and the plastic lets the skin slide over the foam.

scharette
03-07-2010, 10:25 PM
thank you guys for the answer, i think i will use white trash bags to replace those plastics...

Kevin 89MC
03-08-2010, 11:29 AM
There are a few threads on here, I'm not the best searcher though. I re-did my driver and observer seat bottoms, they turned out OK. I had to re-do the plywood bases and foam, cutting it with an electric carving knife. Learned that trick on here. Attached are a few pics from the driver's seat, which was cracked from getting stepped on by me. I just used an old Singer machine, so I'm sure your girlfriend's machine should work great. My tips: use the old patterns and go slow. I used the old patterns to trace onto the new material. I also stapled and safety pinned the new material together to make it easier to keep it lined up correctly for sewing. Trim off the excess where the staples were. Strech it fairly tight before stapling to the base.
Good luck!
Kevin

scharette
03-09-2010, 09:17 PM
guys,

What is the purpose of the 'net'. what is the name of this net and where can i order it.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4006/4415340966_e632a6f840.jpg

Also what would be the best brand of vinyl ?

i have a local supplier who carries this brand
http://www.spradlingvinyl.com/patterns.asp?pattern=Pegasus#

it does not have the foam backing like the original material. i gues the 1/4 foam backing is a marine grade foam. i cannot find this either.. Any suggestion ?

JimN
03-09-2010, 09:23 PM
guys,

What is the purpose of the 'net'. what is the name of this net and where can i order it.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4006/4415340966_e632a6f840.jpg

Also what would be the best brand of vinyl ?

i have a local supplier who carries this brand
http://www.spradlingvinyl.com/patterns.asp?pattern=Pegasus#

it does not have the foam backing like the original material. i gues the 1/4 foam backing is a marine grade foam. i cannot find this either.. Any suggestion ?

The foam was added to the vinyl and it probably had the mesh on it already. Under some conditions, the mesh can release from the foam and depending on how long the seam had been open,...

5280Hawk
03-10-2010, 08:32 PM
I've seen a lot of info on the Vinyl Brand "Nautolex" here's a link to a supplier-

http://www.scalisemarine.com/nautolex.htm

its the material that copycatcovers is using to redo my seats.

Patsfan
03-13-2010, 06:27 PM
The completed cushion looks great. The thin mesh on the under side of the vinyl is a material that is laminated to the foam before the foam is laminated to the vinyl. Because the foam,vinyl and backing are all different materials and stretch differently the mesh will pull away from the foam in time. It is there to give the cover a plusher look at the seams and gives it a better feel.
The plactic film is also there to protect the foam from getting wet. But make sure you have breather holes in the bottom of the cushions to alow the moisture to get out.

atlfootr
03-13-2010, 06:42 PM
Make sure you use SS staples, which you already knew.
Nice job on the seats, btw.

scharette
04-08-2010, 10:52 PM
Hello,

My project is going very sloowwyy.. I will post some pictures as soon as i get the marine foam i ordered more that two weeks ago.

By the meantime, i was wondering what should i do the with the plastic support holding the beer holder and lights.

I was thinking about using krylon paints to repaint them or covering them with vinyls. Would this be a good idea ?

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4063/4504477428_04a7317c3f.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2800/4503843561_3a45365cb5.jpg

scharette
04-30-2010, 08:03 AM
Hello,

Here is my first cushion. I agree with you they are not perfect but they are way much bettrer thant what was in the boat. i'm really happy with the result. We still need to do at least 6 other cushions before using the boat...



http://www.mastercraft.com/teamtalk/picture.php?albumid=221&pictureid=1428
http://www.mastercraft.com/teamtalk/picture.php?albumid=221&pictureid=1426
http://www.mastercraft.com/teamtalk/picture.php?albumid=221&pictureid=1427

Kevin 89MC
04-30-2010, 10:03 AM
Those look really good. Nice colors! I had a tough time stretching my driver & observer seat bottoms, and those are just rectangles. Looks like your pieces are oddly shaped, very tough to get them tight I bet. Those should hold up for a long while!
Kevin

Ryan
04-30-2010, 11:49 AM
An upholstry guy I spoke with recommended tossing the skins in the clothes dryer for a few minutes before stetching & stapling to avoid wrinkles spots. Anyone try this?

JimN
04-30-2010, 01:36 PM
An upholstry guy I spoke with recommended tossing the skins in the clothes dryer for a few minutes before stetching & stapling to avoid wrinkles spots. Anyone try this?

One reason seats look good coming from an upholstery shop is that many of them have a steamer, which plumps the foam and causes the vinyl to stretch more easily/shrink as it cools.

Ryan
04-30-2010, 09:20 PM
One reason seats look good coming from an upholstery shop is that many of them have a steamer, which plumps the foam and causes the vinyl to stretch more easily/shrink as it cools.

Would you recommend a hand held steamer over the dryer method? I'm thinking of trying out Copycat covers in the fall. Anyone have any opinions/experience with the quality of their work?

JimN
04-30-2010, 10:01 PM
Would you recommend a hand held steamer over the dryer method? I'm thinking of trying out Copycat covers in the fall. Anyone have any opinions/experience with the quality of their work?

I would, mainly because it affects the foam, which will always collapse over time.

scharette
05-01-2010, 10:30 PM
An upholstry guy I spoke with recommended tossing the skins in the clothes dryer for a few minutes before stetching & stapling to avoid wrinkles spots. Anyone try this?

Great tips thanks!

rsmith_5568
05-02-2010, 12:33 PM
looks good i did not have it in me to try that had mine done at local shop little mor money but less headache. Good luck looks good so far