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mbeach
02-12-2010, 10:54 AM
saw this on morning news. why have paid "security" guards to stand around and pick their noses while watching this type of beating. if i were the victim's parent, i would have some folks in civil court including the security company. i ask, what useful purpose do they serve by giving a false sense of security and authority. bet the hells angels biker club would have interceded had they been charged with providing security.

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/failure-seattle-beating-9816350

scott023
02-12-2010, 12:32 PM
Brutal... that's all I can say.

TomB
02-12-2010, 12:43 PM
orders or not, allowing that to continue is down right irresponsible

ttu
02-12-2010, 12:57 PM
i saw that this morning on good morning america. i could not believe my eyes.

Skipper
02-12-2010, 04:46 PM
That is nuts! The security company is scared that they will get sued for allowing their guards to get involved. I hope they lose their arse in a lawsuit for letting it happen. Society is crap!

trickskier
02-12-2010, 05:00 PM
Extremely Disturbing!!!

NWMC
02-12-2010, 05:18 PM
This kind of activity is very troubling, especially when the young girl went to the guards and told them what was about to happen. I was in that station this morning and there are now transit police in each station. Time to get rid of the $15 an hour rentals who do nothing but watch. They could have easily pulled that girl away and held her until the police showed up. Something needs to be done to get these thugs out of society. I don't believe they showed the whole clip on the national news, but the individual who goes out into the area where the attack first took place acually picks up the victims purse and takes it. The video then shows all of the thugs running up the escalator. The suspect is 15, and she should be charges as an adult!! Any 15 year old knows that kicking the crap out of someone is not acceptable. Something needs to change!

DemolitionMan
02-12-2010, 07:02 PM
That is ridiculous. Rent a cop's suck.

scott023
02-12-2010, 07:11 PM
This kind of activity is very troubling, especially when the young girl went to the guards and told them what was about to happen. I was in that station this morning and there are now transit police in each station. Time to get rid of the $15 an hour rentals who do nothing but watch. They could have easily pulled that girl away and held her until the police showed up. Something needs to be done to get these thugs out of society. I don't believe they showed the whole clip on the national news, but the individual who goes out into the area where the attack first took place acually picks up the victims purse and takes it. The video then shows all of the thugs running up the escalator. The suspect is 15, and she should be charges as an adult!! Any 15 year old knows that kicking the crap out of someone is not acceptable. Something needs to change!

Spot on assessment NWMC.

canadianskier
02-12-2010, 07:51 PM
as much as you would like to do something by stepping in and helping, the law says don`t, and here is why. about 10-12 years ago I was playing hockey and dressed in full hockey gear walking down a hallway to the ice, I saw two kids beating on each other, one getting the upper hand. I stepped in grab one in each hand and told them to stop then put them down and went on the ice for my game. two min later one of the kids dad comes up to me and says why did you touch my kid and threatens me. I told him his kid was beating up on another kid and all that I did was break up a fight. back to my hockey game and ten min later the cops are there and iam get charged with assault. so they take my statment I missed my hockey game, lucky for me a good friend of mine is a cop in this town made a few phone calls and the charges got dropped. Me personalll, if I see some one getting beat on, be it a kid or an adult I will allways step in.

Jerseydave
02-13-2010, 08:14 AM
From the video:

"common sense should take over"

It's too bad there is a severe lack of the above in our world today.

Kyle
02-13-2010, 08:40 AM
It was caught on video. If either of the rental cops stepped in to help someone who could have received brain injurys possibly for life they would not loose their job. The video clearly would have shown them breaking it up instead of letting someone get hurt.

This right here shows you that you need to know how to fight in life. NO one will have your back because society is a bunch of chicken chits.

Once I watched this guy grab this girl by the hair at a club and started beating on her. I stepped in and took the dude down bouncing his face off of the dance floor acidentally breaking his nose. Not knowing his nose was broken he was placed in a rear naked choke and choked out before security or cops stepped in. The dude was arrested and the Bar bought me and my possie another round on the house. It was kinda fun getting a high five from the cops. They said that they could not have done what I did to the guy but he deserved it and was glad someone jacked him up.

JohnE
02-13-2010, 09:15 AM
At some point humanity has to take precedence over the law.... as someone else said that girl could have got brain damage or even died.

2RLAKE
02-13-2010, 09:30 AM
its immoral to just stand there with thier cranial intrusion into their rectal area ... the rent a cops probably have IQs in the 60s anyway and just dont know any better. So sad to see human beings not caring ... that is why i have my concealed carry permit!!!!

scott023
02-13-2010, 09:39 AM
At some point humanity has to take precedence over the law.... as someone else said that girl could have got brain damage or even died.

That's my issue. The girl is getting curb stomped and no one pulls the girl off of her... I'm wondering how those people go to sleep at night after watching that, knowing they could've made a difference but were too weak to do it.

mbeach
02-13-2010, 12:16 PM
from the seattle times per the link below, the "real" cops were asked to help and also did nothing. now seattle is reviewing their policies. last year, i was at this location but not after dark. in the comment section, a dude references a pepper ball gun that looks like a flashlight. anyone know about or own one of these?

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2011060395_webtunnel12m.html

TX.X-30 fan
02-13-2010, 03:45 PM
as much as you would like to do something by stepping in and helping, the law says don`t, and here is why. about 10-12 years ago I was playing hockey and dressed in full hockey gear walking down a hallway to the ice, I saw two kids beating on each other, one getting the upper hand. I stepped in grab one in each hand and told them to stop then put them down and went on the ice for my game. two min later one of the kids dad comes up to me and says why did you touch my kid and threatens me. I told him his kid was beating up on another kid and all that I did was break up a fight. back to my hockey game and ten min later the cops are there and iam get charged with assault. so they take my statment I missed my hockey game, lucky for me a good friend of mine is a cop in this town made a few phone calls and the charges got dropped. Me personalll, if I see some one getting beat on, be it a kid or an adult I will allways step in.




Screw that if you are human you step in there and stop the POS thug PERIOD!!!!!! I hope we do not turn into canada!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Skipper
02-13-2010, 06:35 PM
Nuthin worse than parents of screwed up kids. The kids got it from somebody!

Law enforcement officers have an obligation to protect all of us. It is no suprise this happened in Seattle. Washington, Oregan, and California form a strange place known as "The People's Republic of California". Common sense is considered a violation of law.

bbymgr
02-13-2010, 08:24 PM
Nuthin worse than parents of screwed up kids. The kids got it from somebody!

Law enforcement officers have an obligation to protect all of us. It is no suprise this happened in Seattle. Washington, Oregan, and California form a strange place known as "The People's Republic of California". Common sense is considered a violation of law.

?????????????????? What happened was completely wrong, but to turn that into a west coast bashing is pretty stupid.:confused:

Skipper
02-13-2010, 09:36 PM
?????????????????? What happened was completely wrong, but to turn that into a west coast bashing is pretty stupid.:confused:

Goes to motive. The most liberal behavior from its residents, legislature, and judicial decisions in the nation. Why else would the law enforcement be afraid to take action?

Not fair to generalize the entire west coast? Maybe. Should I wax the bottom of my boat?

bbymgr
02-13-2010, 09:53 PM
People turning their heads the other way isn't exclusive to the west coast. I've seen it happen in New York and New Jersey. It probably happens in most metro areas throughout the US. I feel its a product of "sue happy lawyers" corrupting the judicial system.

DooSPX
02-13-2010, 10:04 PM
People turning their heads the other way isn't exclusive to the west coast. I've seen it happen in New York and New Jersey. It probably happens in most metro areas throughout the US. I feel its a product of "sue happy lawyers" corrupting the judicial system.

I think you are correct.... Its sad that we have to worry about doing the right thing...

Patrick Hardy
02-13-2010, 11:26 PM
Nuthin worse than parents of screwed up kids. The kids got it from somebody!

Law enforcement officers have an obligation to protect all of us. It is no surprise this happened in Seattle. Washington, Oregan, and California form a strange place known as "The People's Republic of California". Common sense is considered a violation of law.

That is a pretty broad statement about the west coast, all from a video of one bad incident. Not to compare the two, but I would certainly not make that statement about your area of the country from a whole lot more video that I saw during and after the Katrina Storm.

If you had any idea of what has happen to law enforcement / police officers in the Seattle area in the last few months, you would know that there is a extremely high level of law enforcement now.

Also it is Oregon...not Oregan!

scott023
02-14-2010, 01:53 AM
Screw that if you are human you step in there and stop the POS thug PERIOD!!!!!! I hope we do not turn into canada!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Glass house Stu? This sh!t happened on your soil, not ours. The other dudes post could be a one off...

Skipper
02-14-2010, 10:59 AM
Been stationed at Ft. Lewis. So for a couple years it was my part of the country. I know exactly what the people, the police, and the politicians are like.

Fact is that it was the policies and procedures of that organization, based out of Seattle, that allowed a gang of thugs to beat a helpless child right in front of them. So, no, I am not surprised that is the geographical location where it happened.

My personal bias against that part of the country takes away nothing from the horrible malfeasance committed by those security personnel. Could it happen someplace else? Sure.

TX.X-30 fan
02-14-2010, 01:27 PM
?????????????????? What happened was completely wrong, but to turn that into a west coast bashing is pretty stupid.:confused:




I can tell you that would not have happened where I live. Jus Sayin. I believe he makes a good point about ultra liberal places and how the laws work under that kind of government. I did not see it as bashing just reality.

TX.X-30 fan
02-14-2010, 01:30 PM
Glass house Stu? This sh!t happened on your soil, not ours. The other dudes post could be a one off...





Listen Drucker don't make me come up there and B-slap you..............................:D:D





I knew that last part would get one of you canooks rilled//////////////// 8p

scott023
02-14-2010, 02:15 PM
Listen Drucker don't make me come up there and B-slap you..............................





I knew that last part would get one of you canooks rilled//////////////// 8p

Drucker. :D:D:D

bbymgr
02-14-2010, 02:15 PM
I can tell you that would not have happened where I live. Jus Sayin. I believe he makes a good point about ultra liberal places and how the laws work under that kind of government. I did not see it as bashing just reality.

You probably live in a nicer neighborhood. I've driven through Gulfton, and I am quite positive there is things like this going on where people are pulling a Sgt. Schultz. I saw nothing............nothing.

Maristar210
02-14-2010, 08:22 PM
I love a good cat fight. Someone go get some mud.

The haymakers I would have let go. If two mouthy **** talking teenagers want to beat the hell out of themselves I would not have cared. The headkicking would have made me step in because her life was in danger.

Good thing one of them was not white.

YTW
02-14-2010, 09:20 PM
Let's say this was your child, would you have wanted someone to stop it? The Golden Rule still works, regardless if the laws don't.

Patrick Hardy
02-15-2010, 01:25 PM
I can tell you that would not have happened where I live. Jus Sayin. I believe he makes a good point about ultra liberal places and how the laws work under that kind of government. I did not see it as bashing just reality.

Not to beat a dead horse...but wasn't this close to where you live? I sure did not see any of your great conservative government at work here? Jus Sayin.

http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/video?id=7273709

TX.X-30 fan
02-15-2010, 02:36 PM
Inner city school Predominantly well you saw the video, and the liberals control the school board and the city government. Like most major cities if not all liberal politicians are in charge and you can see how well our large cities fight crime and manage their finances!!

Sorry to poke so many holes in your weak attempt paint conservatives as failures, funny thing is the liberals in control of large cities have proved beyond a doubt over the last 40 years how inept they are at governing!!


Have a nice day.

TX.X-30 fan
02-15-2010, 02:36 PM
No not close to where I live.

TX.X-30 fan
02-15-2010, 02:47 PM
.Poorest Cities in America Run by Democrats for Decades — Time for Change
What do the ten U.S. cities with the highest poverty rates have in common?

1st on poverty rate list: Detroit, MI. Hasn’t elected a Republican mayor since 1961;

2nd. Buffalo, NY. Hasn’t elected a Republican mayor since 1954;

3rd. Cincinnati, OH. Hasn’t elected a Republican mayor since 1984;

4th. Cleveland, OH …since 1989;

5th. Miami, FL. Has NEVER had a Republican mayor;

6th. St. Louis, MO …since 1949;

7th. El Paso, TX. Has NEVER had a Republican mayor;

8th. Milwaukee, WI…since 1908;

9th. Philadelphia, PA…since 1952;

10th. Newark, NJ …since 1907.





JUS SAYIN :D

Patrick Hardy
02-15-2010, 02:54 PM
Come on TX.X-30 fan,
Blaming everything on so called liberals...that is a little TOO easy! And I guess the Austin area (if that is where you live?) is just a perfect place with absolutely no problems?

TX.X-30 fan
02-15-2010, 02:56 PM
Come on TX.X-30 fan,
Blaming everything on so called liberals...that is a little TOO easy! And I guess the Austin area (if that is where you live?) is just a perfect place with absolutely no problems?




Look at the data it is easy to understand, see the worst places in the nation and you will have liberals running the gov-ment. Its not me its just fact.

TX.X-30 fan
02-15-2010, 03:01 PM
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Chicago: Worst City in the United States
By Robbie Cooper ⋅ January 11, 2009 ⋅ Tweet This ⋅ Email This Post ⋅ Print This Post ⋅ Post a comment
Yesterday we established that Baltimore Mayor Sheila Dixon (DEMCORAT) was The Worst Person in the World for allegedly stealing gift cards that were intended for poor families.

Today, let’s make the case for Chicago being The Worst City in the United States.

It was a close competition between Chicago, Cleveland, Detroit, New Orleans, and Philadelphia (guess what all of these cities have in common? That’s right — they’ve all been run into the ground by dirty Democrat politicians and failed Democrat/Socialist policies).

But Chicago edged them all out. The city that was “led” by the likes of Barrack Obama (now President-elect), Rham Emmanuel (now Obama’s Chief of Staff), and Arne Duncan (now Obama’s Secretary of Education).

Or — more accurately — -the city was “run down” by those men and the rest of the Chicago machine that produced them.

Crime
It’s already been established that summer time in Chicago is more dangerous than war-time in Baghdad. Despite Democrats (illegally) banning guns the murder and violence rates are staggering.

Yesterday, five people were shot as they left a crowded high school basketball game at Paul Laurence Dunbar Vocational Career Academy — actress/singer Jennifer Hudson’s old school. Police think the attacks were “gang related”.

As Rachel Lucas points out:

Chicago has a violence problem because they have a culture problem – a culture that doesn’t value education, parenting, or personal responsibility. When you have generations of people raised without morals or values, you will have violence – with or without guns.
And lest you think that Chicago’s crimes are all relegated to black-on-black crime (the crime the media dare not speak of) — there are plenty of racially motivated hate crimes going on in Chicago, too.

Like the attacks and vandalism on Jewish synagogues in Chicago, to include a Molotov cocktail thrown at a Chicago synagogue. More of them just this weekend, as three synagogues were vandalized.

Chicago has a large and growing Muslim population — so the blacks are off-the-hook for these crimes. I think it’s pretty easy to figure out who’s spray painting “Death to Israel” on the synagogues.

Education
President-elect Obama has tapped Superintendent of Chicago schools Arne Duncan to be our nation’s Secretary of Education. Which should alarm everyone who has children they love and care about. Or anybody who doesn’t want to have to take care of other people’s illiterate children.

Under Duncan’s watch in 2007, only 17 percent of eighth graders tested at or above grade level in reading in Chicago Public Schools the school system administered by Arne Duncan since 2001.

Chicago has a history of high dropout rates, with around half of all students failing to graduate for the past 30 years.

Outstanding effort there Mr. Duncan.

Of course with the influence of unrepentant domestic terrorist Bill Ayers helping direct and lead Chicago’s educational transformation, what could possibly go wrong?

Corruption
This one doesn’t take much elaboration, does it?

Illinois’s last governor, George Ryan (R) is in prison for federal corruption convictions. Their current governor has been indicted for trying to sale the vacated seat of Sen. Barrack Obama.

Which is why I annoint the city of Chicago as The Worst City in the United States.

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TX.X-30 fan
02-15-2010, 03:04 PM
http://www.scoopdaily.com/2009/11/10/the-5-worst-cities-for-urban-youth/


Shall I keep going PH?? Pretty overwhelming is everywhere to support the theory that liberal politics and policies have made a huge negative impact on our nation.

Patrick Hardy
02-15-2010, 03:12 PM
Please, I could find just as much so called "facts" from a liberal web site about corrupted conservative politicians...it is real easy to blame the problems of the nation on someone else.
Both parties are equally screwed up!

TX.X-30 fan
02-15-2010, 03:18 PM
Please, I could find just as much so called "facts" from a liberal web site about corrupted conservative politicians...it is real easy to blame the problems of the nation on someone else.
Both parties are equally screwed up!



I thought you were talking about major cities??? Crime and that kinda stuff????

The one article was CNN not a hot-bed of conservative oppinion. :D



I dare you to find more conservative corrupt politicians, city/county/state than democrats. Just not possible.

TayMC197
02-15-2010, 04:06 PM
Maybe it's me but I see a connection with the kids fighting. Personally I'd let them fight. Kind of like the gang theory, you can arrest a gang member they'll be released and charge the cops. So I think the cops should just drop the gang members off in other gang territories and let them off each other. I honestly don't care about the fate of non contributors of society. I probably would of egged the fights on. I went to school with kids like that and they hindered my education with there disruption and lack of caring. Only there for the free lunch and breakfast normally. I guess I have a hate on the subject.
Now if it's a mugging, that's another story. These two events were thugs being their selves.

TX.X-30 fan
02-15-2010, 04:34 PM
Removing god and corporal punishment from the public schools was a stroke of genius its really paying benefits now.



Again how could you stand and watch that much less encourage it to continue, is that what you really meant to say??

Skipper
02-15-2010, 05:11 PM
What is important is that three on duty members of a security agency, responsible for the safety of the community, did not do anything to prevent another human being from being beaten by three people right in front of them. That does not happen unless those people are following specific policies and procedures that prohibit them from helping.

It is easy to be angry at the three guards. It is easy to be mad at the police. But it is important to realize that they get their orders from their organizations.

This traces back to liberal policies that remove authority from law enforcement personnel. Those who work for these agencies are afraid to act the way an ordinary person would when faced with a dangerous situation, ie. the attack on video.

TX.X-30 fan
02-15-2010, 05:33 PM
Same as insane rules of engagement that put out soldiers in bad situations??

NWMC
02-18-2010, 06:17 PM
How ironic. What goes around comes around. No pun intended, Not so funny when the shoe is on the other foot.

http://www.kirotv.com/news/22599766/detail.html

TX.X-30 fan
02-19-2010, 08:50 AM
How ironic. What goes around comes around. No pun intended, Not so funny when the shoe is on the other foot.

http://www.kirotv.com/news/22599766/detail.html




How funny is that Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!! These inner city kids are no better than animals. Need to adopt caning like taiwan or Singapore.