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03 35th Anniversary
02-11-2010, 11:15 PM
Do any of you own a 300 Ulta Mag?

I have done some searching on google trying to find a Browning A-Bolt 300 ultra mag and all the ones I keep finding are old post.


I found this one but can't seem to register with this forum to be able to contact the guy.


http://2coolfishing.net/ttmbforum/sh...d.php?t=252063

MYMC
02-12-2010, 08:01 AM
Do any of you own a 300 Ulta Mag?

I have done some searching on google trying to find a Browning A-Bolt 300 ultra mag and all the ones I keep finding are old post.


I found this one but can't seem to register with this forum to be able to contact the guy.


http://2coolfishing.net/ttmbforum/sh...d.php?t=252063
Yes we have one...but it is not my "big gun" of choice. Much prefer the 340 Weatherby Mag. Maeghan use a .300 WSM when we go west for Elk.

There are 4 Remingtons listed for sale here: http://www.gunsamerica.com/Search.htm?T=.300%20Ultra%20mag

Here are couple really nice guns...Hendershots is a great place to do business with!
http://www.hendershots.net/gunRoomDetail.aspx?id=3022
http://www.hendershots.net/gunRoomDetail.aspx?id=3051

03 35th Anniversary
02-12-2010, 10:15 AM
I guess the link was dead I'll try it again.

http://2coolfishing.net/ttmbforum/showthread.php?t=252063

03 35th Anniversary
02-12-2010, 10:20 AM
Yes we have one...but it is not my "big gun" of choice. Much prefer the 340 Weatherby Mag. Maeghan use a .300 WSM when we go west for Elk.

There are 4 Remingtons listed for sale here: http://www.gunsamerica.com/Search.htm?T=.300%20Ultra%20mag

Here are couple really nice guns...Hendershots is a great place to do business with!
http://www.hendershots.net/gunRoomDetail.aspx?id=3022
http://www.hendershots.net/gunRoomDetail.aspx?id=3051

Thanks

I'm not really a WSM or Short Mag fan. I like for my bigger rifles to have atleast a 26" barrel.

The ballistics are better on the Ultra Mag than the WSM also.

I'm really looking for a Browning, that's my brand of choice. I just like them alot better.

MYMC
02-13-2010, 10:15 AM
Thanks

I'm not really a WSM or Short Mag fan. I like for my bigger rifles to have atleast a 26" barrel.

The ballistics are better on the Ultra Mag than the WSM also.

I'm really looking for a Browning, that's my brand of choice. I just like them alot better.
Not a WSM fan either, but Kimber built her a nice rifle that she can handle and it will drop a bull elk like a bad habit and she can deal with the recoil.

I'm a big Browning fan...well the Belgium shotguns, but for rifles I really like Coopers. "Big Gun" it is tough to beat a .340 Weatherby Mag...love mine but recoil is stout.

Gun show here end of month I'll PM you if I see any abolts.

VOLFAN
02-13-2010, 11:44 AM
I have the .300 Weatherby Mag and love it.

I grew up shooting Weatherby Mark V rifles.

I am shooting a Remington Model 700 chambered .300 Weatherby Mag right now.

cbryan70
02-13-2010, 01:49 PM
03 im working on it....

TX.X-30 fan
02-13-2010, 03:34 PM
Not a WSM fan either, but Kimber built her a nice rifle that she can handle and it will drop a bull elk like a bad habit and she can deal with the recoil.

I'm a big Browning fan...well the Belgium shotguns, but for rifles I really like Coopers. "Big Gun" it is tough to beat a .340 Weatherby Mag...love mine but recoil is stout.

Gun show here end of month I'll PM you if I see any abolts.




Your scrawny *** will need a muzzle brake.................35th.............:D

VOLFAN
02-13-2010, 06:43 PM
Just get ya a Barrett .50 Cal and be done with it

DemolitionMan
02-13-2010, 08:06 PM
Just get ya a Barrett .50 Cal and be done with it

Yeah that's only 15k.

VOLFAN
02-13-2010, 09:27 PM
Yeah that's only 15k.
He is good for it.

2RLAKE
02-14-2010, 09:09 AM
I am a Weatherby guy ... my wife bought me (with some help from a friend) a .270 Wby for my 40th and my elk rifle is a 30-378 Wby .... when i shot my elk 5 years ago he did a backflip and never moved ... depending on how much you shoot, jut remember the ammo price for Weatherby's .... $80-100/box but i hand load all my own and only use Barnes triple shock bullets. i have a Sako M995 30-378 Wby with a Vari-X III 4.5-14-50 for sale is you're interested.

Go with Weatherby ... the MasterCraft of Rifles.

03 35th Anniversary
02-14-2010, 10:36 AM
Your scrawny *** will need a muzzle brake.................35th.............:D

I hate muzzel breaks!!!!!

I will not own a rifle with one!!!!

03 35th Anniversary
02-14-2010, 10:45 AM
I am a Weatherby guy ... my wife bought me (with some help from a friend) a .270 Wby for my 40th and my elk rifle is a 30-378 Wby .... when i shot my elk 5 years ago he did a backflip and never moved ... depending on how much you shoot, jut remember the ammo price for Weatherby's .... $80-100/box but i hand load all my own and only use Barnes triple shock bullets. i have a Sako M995 30-378 Wby with a Vari-X III 4.5-14-50 for sale is you're interested.

Go with Weatherby ... the MasterCraft of Rifles.

Mastercraft of rifles????

That's pure opinion??? LOL

I do like Weatherby. I'll just always take a browning first!!!

VOLFAN
02-14-2010, 11:28 AM
Browning makes a good Shotgun as MYMC said

Weatherby is the rifle to have. Get one and put a NightForce or good Leupold scope on it and be done with it.

VOLFAN
02-14-2010, 11:32 AM
here ya go

TinaSkiGirl
02-14-2010, 11:52 AM
As far as I'm concerned Mossberg is the best gun for the money. Browning and Weatherby you are just buying the name not a quality product.

TinaSkiGirl
02-14-2010, 12:01 PM
Picture from Dodge City, KS hunting trip. Deer taken with Mossberg 4x 338.

TX.X-30 fan
02-14-2010, 01:58 PM
As far as I'm concerned Mossberg is the best gun for the money. Browning and Weatherby you are just buying the name not a quality product.

I can't speak for mossberg but aren't weatherby's made in Japan now?

2RLAKE
02-14-2010, 03:05 PM
nice deer ... but i do have to stick with my Weatherby rifles ... each one is a tack driver

TinaSkiGirl
02-14-2010, 04:42 PM
nice deer ... but i do have to stick with my Weatherby rifles ... each one is a tack driver

I can't eat tacks. I hunting deer.

2RLAKE
02-14-2010, 06:13 PM
having some venison backstraps for dinner tonight ... my kids favorite dinner

MYMC
02-15-2010, 10:13 AM
As far as I'm concerned Mossberg is the best gun for the money. Browning and Weatherby you are just buying the name not a quality product.
Ahhh...bear bating...almost as old as spam.

03 35th Anniversary
02-15-2010, 11:58 AM
What happen to this thread????

TinaSkiGirl
02-15-2010, 05:13 PM
Don't all you guys be jealous of a little ole girl. Just because she puts more meat in the freezer. Whitetail killed at end of this season.
Maybe I'll try the spam on my bear hunt next year. Thanks for the tip MYMC

2RLAKE
02-15-2010, 05:23 PM
nice buck .... not jealous ... think its great that you enjoy getting out there. My daughter's friend, 9, just missed a deer this year with a crossbow ... great to see everyone enjoying our god given right to hunt ... go Ted Nugent

TX.X-30 fan
02-15-2010, 05:27 PM
Kinda a pencil horn if you ask me. That the best you could do?? Have some nice ones in my back yard about that size.

cbryan70
02-15-2010, 05:31 PM
TX...how big do you guys see down there? we have some huge ones up here...and they actually taste good...corn fed

TX.X-30 fan
02-15-2010, 05:36 PM
TX...how big do you guys see down there? we have some huge ones up here...and they actually taste good...corn fed



Where I live they are small nothing like midwest animals you have there. South Texas is another story it has the proper nutrition in the forage to create large animals.


I was just messing with Tgirl............... very nice deer for a chick. :D

cbryan70
02-15-2010, 05:45 PM
You do get some big bucks down there tho. When the racks get that big around here the deer are HUGE

TX.X-30 fan
02-15-2010, 06:10 PM
You do get some big bucks down there tho. When the racks get that big around here the deer are HUGE




Yes big body deer there where you are for sure, the mineral content is just right for horn development in south Texas, which is kind of funny because the land is so rugged and baron. They say if It doesn't bite you it will stick you down there.

03 35th Anniversary
02-15-2010, 09:41 PM
03 im working on it....

Tic Toc Tic Toc.... :D

2RLAKE
02-15-2010, 09:52 PM
watch gunbroker.com ... you can find some good stuff on there .... unfortunately there are not any Browning 300 ultra mags listed

03 35th Anniversary
02-15-2010, 10:17 PM
watch gunbroker.com ... you can find some good stuff on there .... unfortunately there are not any Browning 300 ultra mags listed

I know...

I have been watching, I have only found one for sale!!!

MYMC
02-16-2010, 05:16 PM
What happen to this thread????

It went to hell with some comments about buying a name...then some more blah blah blah. John M Browning and Roy Weatherby...hard to believe their respective companies are all just name.

TX.X-30 fan
02-16-2010, 06:29 PM
Give up on the goofy calibers, better ones out there for cheaper prices.

2RLAKE
02-16-2010, 07:07 PM
but i love my 30-378 Weatherby ....

x-swagger
02-17-2010, 09:45 AM
you must keep in mind that with those ultra mags like the 30-378 and the 300 ultra mag your bore life will be much shorter. essentially, the heat and energy of the powder blast with those calibers is hell on the bore. however, the ammo is so expensive you probably wont have to worry about that unless you've got lots of dinero to blast away..

east tx skier
02-17-2010, 12:17 PM
Not a WSM fan either, but Kimber built her a nice rifle that she can handle and it will drop a bull elk like a bad habit and she can deal with the recoil.

I'm a big Browning fan...well the Belgium shotguns, but for rifles I really like Coopers. "Big Gun" it is tough to beat a .340 Weatherby Mag...love mine but recoil is stout.

Gun show here end of month I'll PM you if I see any abolts.

I've got my dad's old .270 Weatherby Mag. That rifle is a friggin' canon! I watched him bring down an Elk at about 650 yards with it. Amazing rifle.

mgurley
02-17-2010, 02:30 PM
Buy a remington model 700...very accurate out of the box...plus if decide to turn it into a custom gun later the 700 action is preferred. I would recomend this one in particular...http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/centerfire/model-700/model-700-sendero-sf-ii.aspx

I do have a .300 ultra. it is a hell of a long range gun but you really pay for it in recoil. I reload for mine not sure what factory shells cost now but they were high enough 9 or 10 years ago when I got it.

2RLAKE
02-17-2010, 05:12 PM
i reload all my stuff ... the 30-378 gets 105 grains of reloader 25 .... but i dont shoot it very often. I had a muzzle brake installed that helps a ton while you are at the range ... makes it recoil like a 30-06

Has anyone shot one of the Christensen Arms rifles? I love the way they look with the carbon fiber barrel. My old boss has a couple and loves them ... he took one to Africa last year and it performed flawlessly

03 35th Anniversary
02-21-2010, 08:49 PM
This search is giving me a head ache!!!

Still nothing!!!

03 35th Anniversary
03-09-2010, 08:54 PM
Finally got just what I wanted yesterday!

Browning A-Bolt Medallion 300 Ultra Mag!

TayMC197
03-09-2010, 09:21 PM
As far as I'm concerned Mossberg is the best gun for the money. Browning and Weatherby you are just buying the name not a quality product.

I'm sorry but I'm going to bite at this one. Tina there are a lot of great guns out there. Mosbergs are nice and I personally own one. Its a Mosberg 500 Chicago Street sweeper and loaded out. Great for blasting a wild dog on occassion or some random armadillo. Parents have just over 10,000 acres in north Texas on the Red River and I could go out with my Browning Bow and drop plenty of bucks. So really its not the gun that you have. Sadly my mom won't allow deer hunting on the land becuase she bottle feed raised most of the deer on it. We have some beautiful bucks and currently one 16 point. We had 2 but I feel one was poched last fall. We even have a buffalo, he just showed up one day.

As for people buying the name, I believe I own a MasterCraft for that reason. Normally names are followed with years of development and proven product. I'm guilty of paying more for the name because it reassures me I will have success with it in the long run.

Also PM sent your way...

03 35th Anniversary
03-09-2010, 09:53 PM
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2RLAKE
03-10-2010, 07:13 AM
awesome .. that has some serious punch to it ... I was looking at the ballistics on it last night and it has even more than my 30-378 Wby ... got to love a rifle that has more energy at 400 yards than a 30-06 out of the barrel ... if you can see it you can hit it.

Make sure you use Barnes Triple Shock bullets .... they retain 100% of the bullet weight at those high velocities

03 35th Anniversary
03-10-2010, 06:49 PM
awesome .. that has some serious punch to it ... I was looking at the ballistics on it last night and it has even more than my 30-378 Wby ... got to love a rifle that has more energy at 400 yards than a 30-06 out of the barrel ... if you can see it you can hit it.

Make sure you use Barnes Triple Shock bullets .... they retain 100% of the bullet weight at those high velocities

I'll look into those.

I was thinking of trying these new ones that remington has.

http://www.remington.com/product-families/ammunition/centerfire-families/power-level-ammunition.aspx

Footin
03-10-2010, 07:14 PM
I have a Daisy.....................BB gun.

03 35th Anniversary
03-10-2010, 07:17 PM
I have a Daisy.....................BB gun.

Those will put your eye out!!!

2RLAKE
03-10-2010, 07:19 PM
those bullets look great .... nice way to play with your new toy. I've knicknamed mine Thumper!

03 35th Anniversary
03-10-2010, 07:42 PM
those bullets look great .... nice way to play with your new toy. I've knicknamed mine Thumper!

I think I'm gonna name it after one of my Exgirlfriends!!!

It's Pretty!
It's loud!
But it F*@ks alot of sh!t up!!!

TayMC197
03-10-2010, 09:03 PM
I think I'm gonna name it after one of my Exgirlfriends!!!

It's Pretty!
It's loud!
But it F*@ks alot of sh!t up!!!

You dated Melanie too?

03 35th Anniversary
03-10-2010, 10:04 PM
You dated Melanie too?

No Melanie didn't become good looking till I got out of school and by then I had already burned my bridge!

But I still got about 8 good front runners for spot!

Dbuck
03-11-2010, 11:41 AM
Must agree with Mike on the Belgian Browning shotguns, although he is probably referring to the Superposed and I the more plebian A-5's. There is nothing wrong with the Japanese produced Brownings from a quality standpoint; but I believe the fit and finish was slightly better on the old Belgian ones.

Both Browning and Weatherby have done an outstanding job of controlling the quality of the products that bore their names over the years, even though in many cases, especially Browning did not actually own the factories that produced their products. Browning has had a few recalls, but on the whole I think both have lived up to the "hype" associated with their names as being premium brands with premium products.

My dad was a Browning dealer back in the day, and I have kicked myself many times for not owning "one of each" instead of the 2 or 3 guns I have.

Sorry for going slightly off topic again.

ShamrockIV
03-13-2010, 09:44 PM
i had a browning 300 win mag a bolt II. it was an awesome rifle. wish i had kept it.

03 35th Anniversary
03-14-2010, 11:07 AM
i had a browning 300 win mag a bolt II. it was an awesome rifle. wish i had kept it.

A few years ago I bought my Dad a Browning A-Bolt II Medallion 300 Win Mag for Christmas. He loves it.

03 35th Anniversary
03-14-2010, 11:10 AM
I need to find a Scope for this gun now!

MYMC
03-15-2010, 11:52 AM
I need to find a Scope for this gun now!

I've had an awful lot of success with the Zeiss brand.

ShamrockIV
03-15-2010, 06:26 PM
I've had an awful lot of success with the Zeiss brand.

u can't hide money!!! ;)

03 35th Anniversary
03-15-2010, 06:33 PM
I've had an awful lot of success with the Zeiss brand.

I have really been looking at them also!

03 35th Anniversary
03-15-2010, 06:36 PM
I've had an awful lot of success with the Zeiss brand.

This the one I really want for some dumb reason!!!

http://swfa.com/Zeiss-6-24x72-Victory-Diavari-34mm-Rifle-Scope-P7753.aspx

TX.X-30 fan
03-15-2010, 06:39 PM
Must agree with Mike on the Belgian Browning shotguns, although he is probably referring to the Superposed and I the more plebian A-5's. There is nothing wrong with the Japanese produced Brownings from a quality standpoint; but I believe the fit and finish was slightly better on the old Belgian ones.

Both Browning and Weatherby have done an outstanding job of controlling the quality of the products that bore their names over the years, even though in many cases, especially Browning did not actually own the factories that produced their products. Browning has had a few recalls, but on the whole I think both have lived up to the "hype" associated with their names as being premium brands with premium products.

My dad was a Browning dealer back in the day, and I have kicked myself many times for not owning "one of each" instead of the 2 or 3 guns I have.

Sorry for going slightly off topic again.




Knock-your-self-out......................... Beretta!!!!! Pigeon grade?? :D

TX.X-30 fan
03-15-2010, 06:41 PM
This the one I really want for some dumb reason!!!

http://swfa.com/Zeiss-6-24x72-Victory-Diavari-34mm-Rifle-Scope-P7753.aspx




What if I just hobble the animal 1st so you don't need 1500 dollar optics??

03 35th Anniversary
03-15-2010, 06:42 PM
What if I just hobble the animal 1st so you don't need 1500 dollar optics??

Who said I was only shooting animals with this thing??? ;)

TX.X-30 fan
03-15-2010, 06:45 PM
Who said I was only shooting animals with this thing??? ;)


Ex-girlfriends??

03 35th Anniversary
03-15-2010, 06:51 PM
Ex-girlfriends??

Nah!!!!

I to keep them around so they can see how much better I turned out without them!!!

It really messes up their heads!!! :D

TayMC197
03-15-2010, 07:06 PM
Nah!!!!

I to keep them around so they can see how much better I turned out without them!!!

It really messes up their heads!!! :D

Not to mention bringing a hotter chick around... Now shooting their screwed up purse poodles... thats a possability

TX.X-30 fan
03-15-2010, 07:46 PM
Nah!!!!

I to keep them around so they can see how much better I turned out without them!!!

It really messes up their heads!!! :D




That is an aspect I had not considered but I will have to agree.

MYMC
03-16-2010, 11:36 AM
This the one I really want for some dumb reason!!!

http://swfa.com/Zeiss-6-24x72-Victory-Diavari-34mm-Rifle-Scope-P7753.aspx

I can tell you that I have some really nice scopes mounted that over the years I paid stupid money for; however, none are as bright or clear as the Zeiss. From the Conquest line to the Diavari I have not been disappointed. It is my understanding that Zeiss makes the glass for Swarovski and that the only real difference (other than cost of double or more) is the unlimited guarantee of the Swarovski.

MYMC
03-16-2010, 11:40 AM
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Knock-your-self-out......................... Beretta!!!!! Pigeon grade?? :D
Pigeon are nice but relatively easy to find...Pointer Grades are tough but a very pretty gun particularly if Funken did the work. My favorites are the Diana's...

03 35th Anniversary
03-17-2010, 09:58 PM
I can tell you that I have some really nice scopes mounted that over the years I paid stupid money for; however, none are as bright or clear as the Zeiss. From the Conquest line to the Diavari I have not been disappointed. It is my understanding that Zeiss makes the glass for Swarovski and that the only real difference (other than cost of double or more) is the unlimited guarantee of the Swarovski.

These are a couple of the scopes I have it narrowed down to.

http://swfa.com/Zeiss-6-24x56-Victory-Diavari-30mm-Rifle-Scope-P7752.aspx

http://swfa.com/Leupold-65-20x56-VX-3L-30mm-Riflescope-P12743.aspx

http://swfa.com/Swarovski-5-30x50-Z6-30mm-Riflescope-P40472.aspx

http://swfa.com/Swarovski-5-25x52-Z5-Riflescope-P40829.aspx

MYMC
03-18-2010, 12:44 PM
These are a couple of the scopes I have it narrowed down to.

http://swfa.com/Zeiss-6-24x56-Victory-Diavari-30mm-Rifle-Scope-P7752.aspx

http://swfa.com/Leupold-65-20x56-VX-3L-30mm-Riflescope-P12743.aspx

http://swfa.com/Swarovski-5-30x50-Z6-30mm-Riflescope-P40472.aspx

http://swfa.com/Swarovski-5-25x52-Z5-Riflescope-P40829.aspx
Looked at all these, and my pick is still the Zeiss...although I admit it is a tough call between it and the Swarovski Z6.

mgurley
03-30-2010, 09:28 AM
Zeiss is a nice scope...if I were buying today I would be sure to get the rapid Z reticle (Rapid Z 800 for the .300 ultra).

http://www.zeiss.com/c1256bcf0020be5f/Contents-Frame/4ce72fbc4859816a85256bcf00613d9e


Also find a good handloader to build you some loads...I'd be glad to share what I am currently loading for mine through PM. Every gun is different so always work up to max loads slowly keeping a close eye on brass for signs of damage.

Tlxstar
03-30-2010, 08:59 PM
I have Swarovski scope (previous model to the Z6) on my 300 WSM and love it. Great low light capabilities.

03 35th Anniversary
03-30-2010, 10:06 PM
Zeiss is a nice scope...if I were buying today I would be sure to get the rapid Z reticle (Rapid Z 800 for the .300 ultra).

http://www.zeiss.com/c1256bcf0020be5f/Contents-Frame/4ce72fbc4859816a85256bcf00613d9e


Also find a good handloader to build you some loads...I'd be glad to share what I am currently loading for mine through PM. Every gun is different so always work up to max loads slowly keeping a close eye on brass for signs of damage.

I know nothing about loading my own shells.

03 35th Anniversary
03-30-2010, 10:06 PM
I have Swarovski scope (previous model to the Z6) on my 300 WSM and love it. Great low light capabilities.

I still haven't made a choice on what I'm gonna get.

bxroads
03-30-2010, 10:43 PM
For long range, 284 bore is where its at, high BC bullet selection being the reason. With today's bullets, critters die regardless of the caliber. Take a 7mm Rem Mag throated for a 160+ grain bullet and rock on clear past 1000. But you'll be fine with a 308 bore. You'll just have to use some seriously heavy bullets to match 7mm bullets in the 160 - 180 gr range.

Last year, with my own eyes, I watched two bull elk in the 300+ class perform the bang/flop routine when smacked by a 338 RUM. The bulls just fell in their tracks and lay motionless. In BOTH cases we lost sight of the bulls when traversing terrain between the shooting point and the folded critter. In BOTH cases once we took our eyes off the bull we never saw it again. One had a slight blood trail that quickly faded and the other only had a small pool where the bull layed but no trail. I'd venture to guess that there are far more animals lost to a RUM and the like than a 308 Win based round due exclusively to poor shot placement.

Get a caliber thats manageable, familiarize yourself with bullet selection and practice, practice, practice. I wouldn't hesitate for a second to smack elk with a 7mm-08 clear out to 600. Here's some food for thought.

In comparable bullet weighs.

7 mag shooting a 175 Barnes at 2,950 mv.

700 yards, 1,607 impact velocity.

7mm mag shooting a 180 Berger VLD at 2,950 mv.

1100 yards, 1,613 impact velocity

There's 400 more yards I can gain using a Berger over a Barnes.

Looking at the 7mm08 shooting a 180 Berger at 2,550 mv.
It has a 100 yards on the 7mm mag shooting a Barnes bullet.

800 yards, 1,623 impact velocity compared to 700 yards for a Barnes out of a 7mm mag.

BC's do matter in long range hunting. They deliver more impact velocity at all ranges.

In using large cased RUM's I gain full potential of the bullet using
a Berger or a high BC Accubond/Swift S2.

If I use a low BC Barnes I'm hamstringing myself by bringing my impact velocity lower.

A 30-06 shooting a Berger will out shoot a 300 RUM shooting a Barnes.
Or at least be comparable.

I also have my doubts that a Barnes will open up at 1,600 fps.
They need speed to function.

bxroads
03-30-2010, 10:54 PM
Regarding scopes, for long range work, clicking elevation and windage is a must. A Zeiss Victory 30mm tube 3.5-10x44 with their target knobs is where its at.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4051/4348064422_3440e1ac60_o.jpg

03 35th Anniversary
03-30-2010, 11:14 PM
The 3.5-10x44 is probably a great scope but not powerful enough for what I want to do.

I want to get in the 6.5-20(+)x50 rang.

bxroads
03-30-2010, 11:19 PM
What do you want to do with the scope? For big game 10X will get you to 1000 easy. It was by accident but I killed a bull in 2008 at 597 yards with the scope on three power. I always keep it turned down and in the excitement I forgot to turn it up (which is exactly the reason I keep it turned down, better down than up when trying to find a critter in the excitement). My partner was ranging and kept repeating 540, 546, 552, etc. until he got to 597 and the bull stopped. Looking through my scope I called BS, the dang thing was every bit of 1200 yards. My partner kept confirming 600. I finally trusted him, dialed the knob to 600 and let her rip. I later realized my scope was on 3 power, hence my impression of the long range.

Point being, 3x got me to 600 with no problem.

Weight and size is not something I will compromise for magnification. If I had to have more zoom on a big game rig I'd seriously consider the Swaro Z5 3.5-18x44. It offers the magnification in a hunting rig package. At 15.9 oz its the size as the Zeiss Victory pictured above.

03 35th Anniversary
03-31-2010, 08:00 AM
What do you want to do with the scope? For big game 10X will get you to 1000 easy. It was by accident but I killed a bull in 2008 at 597 yards with the scope on three power. I always keep it turned down and in the excitement I forgot to turn it up (which is exactly the reason I keep it turned down, better down than up when trying to find a critter in the excitement). My partner was ranging and kept repeating 540, 546, 552, etc. until he got to 597 and the bull stopped. Looking through my scope I called BS, the dang thing was every bit of 1200 yards. My partner kept confirming 600. I finally trusted him, dialed the knob to 600 and let her rip. I later realized my scope was on 3 power, hence my impression of the long range.

Point being, 3x got me to 600 with no problem.

Weight and size is not something I will compromise for magnification. If I had to have more zoom on a big game rig I'd seriously consider the Swaro Z5 3.5-18x44. It offers the magnification in a hunting rig package. At 15.9 oz its the size as the Zeiss Victory pictured above.

I'm setting the gun up to shoot long rang only. I don't want to be pushing the limits of a 10 power scope getting out to a 1000yrds. I like to have alittle left to bring thing in alittle closer.

bxroads
03-31-2010, 10:06 AM
Be careful not to go to big. FWIW, I've two Leup 30MM Long Range 6.5-20x50's with side focus and M1 knobs in the safe going unused due to their heft. They're in Badger rings and my long range rigs have the Badger pictanny bases so I can slap one on any time I want to. I rarely do.

03 35th Anniversary
03-31-2010, 02:16 PM
Be careful not to go to big. FWIW, I've two Leup 30MM Long Range 6.5-20x50's with side focus and M1 knobs in the safe going unused due to their heft. They're in Badger rings and my long range rigs have the Badger pictanny bases so I can slap one on any time I want to. I rarely do.

Look in post 61 and 71 and tell me your pick out of those scopes and why.

bxroads
03-31-2010, 02:37 PM
For a hunting rig without a doubt the Z5 5-25x52 or the Z6 5-30x50. They're a great balance of magnification, weight, and size.

I'd scratch the Leupold if only for the f'd up looking dent in it. I'd never put it on my rifle. Neither are they in the same class optically.

With the Ziess you have to go with a scope large in size to compare with the magnification of the Swaro Z series. The Ziess options you've listed simpily do not belong on a hunting rifle.


Swaro has something going with the Z5 and Z6. I need to give one a try myself.

TX.X-30 fan
03-31-2010, 07:54 PM
1000 yds..........................................:jerk it:

TinaSkiGirl
03-31-2010, 08:39 PM
1000 yds..........................................:jerk it:

Well big boy lets hear your normally smarta$$ opinion that's always all talk and no bang!

TX.X-30 fan
03-31-2010, 08:53 PM
It is just plain stupid to try and wound an animal from that distance, hone your hunting skills and get at a reasonable distance to take a humane shot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

03 35th Anniversary
03-31-2010, 08:53 PM
For a hunting rig without a doubt the Z5 5-25x52 or the Z6 5-30x50. They're a great balance of magnification, weight, and size.

I'd scratch the Leupold if only for the f'd up looking dent in it. I'd never put it on my rifle. Neither are they in the same class optically.

With the Ziess you have to go with a scope large in size to compare with the magnification of the Swaro Z series. The Ziess options you've listed simpily do not belong on a hunting rifle.


Swaro has something going with the Z5 and Z6. I need to give one a try myself.

That is one of my favorites that I am looking at.

bxroads
03-31-2010, 08:54 PM
Regarding the Swaro, they will not retro-fit their scopes with target knobs as Zeiss and Leup will (they wouldn't last time I checked, two years ago) so you must make certain that the scope comes with the knobs from the factory.

TinaSkiGirl
03-31-2010, 09:02 PM
Regarding the Swaro, they will not retro-fit their scopes with target knobs as Zeiss and Leup will (they wouldn't last time I checked, two years ago) so you must make certain that the scope comes with the knobs from the factory.

Does Zeiss have the same type of target knobs as Leupold?

TinaSkiGirl
03-31-2010, 09:04 PM
It is just plain stupid to try and wound an animal from that distance, hone your hunting skills and get at a reasonable distance to take a humane shot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I guess that's why you shouldn't shoot over your skill level!

bxroads
03-31-2010, 09:06 PM
Does Zeiss have the same type of target knobs as Leupold?

The picture I posted in this thread has a Zeiss knob.

03 35th Anniversary
03-31-2010, 09:08 PM
Regarding the Swaro, they will not retro-fit their scopes with target knobs as Zeiss and Leup will (they wouldn't last time I checked, two years ago) so you must make certain that the scope comes with the knobs from the factory.

So I need to be looking a Zeiss or Leupold then? In your opinion.

03 35th Anniversary
03-31-2010, 09:18 PM
The picture I posted in this thread has a picture of the Zeiss knob.

How does the 30mm tube compare to the regular 1"

bxroads
03-31-2010, 09:26 PM
If the Z5 and Z6 comes with their "ballistic turret" which I have no experience with. Its an external adjustment like is needed but gimmicky and somewhat limiting. With a little ingenuity I'm sure it could be made work but an etched cap from Kenton Industries is the ticket, and they don't make them for Swaro. Ziess is the only Euro scope knob Kenton offers, hence my choice.

http://www.kentonindustries.com/pics/picbytype/

bxroads
03-31-2010, 09:33 PM
Regarding the Zeiss Conquest (1" tube), its a damn good scope and I'd not hesitate for a second to use one. In my opinion, and I've looked through a bunch, its smokes a Leup VX III. But with the Victory you get what you pay for. Optics are phenominal.

One of the other reasons I like the Victory is that the clicks are metric, basically one click is 1/3" inch versus the traditional 1/4", meaning you get much more dope from one revolution of the knob. As can be seen in the picture of my knob, which is indexed in yards, I can get out to 950 in one revolution, and its calibrated for the piss poor BC of a Barnes TSX.

TX.X-30 fan
03-31-2010, 09:56 PM
I guess that's why you shouldn't shoot over your skill level!




Please............................ :poundit:

TinaSkiGirl
03-31-2010, 10:05 PM
Please............................ :poundit:

I take it that your still looking at my pic then!

Sodar
03-31-2010, 10:06 PM
I take it that your still looking at my pic then!

Tina! Long time no talk, babe! :cool:

When you going to teach me how to drive my boat? :confused:

TinaSkiGirl
03-31-2010, 10:09 PM
Tina! Long time no talk, babe! :cool:

When you going to teach me how to drive my boat? :confused:

You can add shooting a gun to your lessons also! ;)

Sodar
03-31-2010, 10:19 PM
You can add shooting a gun to your lessons also! ;)

I am quite accurate with my gun.

TinaSkiGirl
03-31-2010, 11:09 PM
I am quite accurate with my gun.

I'm talking about one of a LARGE cal. and has some recoil! ;)

Monte
04-01-2010, 12:26 AM
I'm talking about one of a LARGE cal. and has some recoil! ;)

Well I'll be damned... you rang?;)

TX.X-30 fan
04-02-2010, 10:30 AM
Well I'll be damned... you rang?;)


I'd ask for a current health certificate and do an extensive visual inspection.......... Jus Sayin:D

03 35th Anniversary
04-02-2010, 12:13 PM
I'd ask for a current health certificate and do an extensive visual inspection.......... Jus Sayin:D

What are you sayin? You don't need a 30 power lense scope to see the bumps and sores on it?

03 35th Anniversary
08-15-2010, 09:52 PM
I finally got a scope for my 300 Ultra Mag.

Nikon Monarch
6x24x50
BDC reticals

TX.X-30 fan
08-16-2010, 06:15 PM
Die Thread Die!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

03 35th Anniversary
08-16-2010, 06:37 PM
Die Thread Die!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bump..........

2RLAKE
08-16-2010, 06:57 PM
did i ever mention my 30-378 Weatherby?

03 35th Anniversary
08-16-2010, 06:59 PM
did i ever mention my 30-378 Weatherby?

No...... Tell us all about it!!!

TX.X-30 fan
08-16-2010, 07:54 PM
Bump..........




Stock-up on ammo for that thing................... Jus Sayin.:D

03 35th Anniversary
08-16-2010, 08:14 PM
Stock-up on ammo for that thing................... Jus Sayin.:D

At $70 a box it's kinda hard to!

TX.X-30 fan
08-16-2010, 09:20 PM
At $70 a box it's kinda hard to!





Exactly me compadre....................................:D

03 35th Anniversary
08-16-2010, 10:13 PM
Exactly me compadre....................................:D

I don't speak spanish... So does that mean your gonna buy them for me??? :D

Big Dogg
08-16-2010, 11:18 PM
At $70 a box it's kinda hard to!

Sounds like time to make a wise investment in Reloading materials!

2RLAKE
12-05-2010, 05:41 PM
well do you get anything with it this year? I'm at 4 deer so far with one more tag left

03 35th Anniversary
12-05-2010, 06:46 PM
well do you get anything with it this year? I'm at 4 deer so far with one more tag left

Nope..... :(

I have only been out hunting once this year... Work and the traveling is messing everything up as usual.....

76S&S
12-06-2010, 08:57 AM
Got to take a afternoon hunting trip with my twins who are 14. We went to a friends high fence farm. One of the twins got an 11 pointer the other a 12. I got an extremely nice axis deer.

Not bad for a 2.5 hour trip.

TX.X-30 fan
12-06-2010, 06:05 PM
Nope..... :(

I have only been out hunting once this year... Work and the traveling is messing everything up as usual.....




And trips with the wife to walmart....................

TX.X-30 fan
12-06-2010, 06:07 PM
Got to take a afternoon hunting trip with my twins who are 14. We went to a friends high fence farm. One of the twins got an 11 pointer the other a 12. I got an extremely nice axis deer.

Not bad for a 2.5 hour trip.




Sounds like a nice 5,000 dollar afternoon:D

03 35th Anniversary
12-06-2010, 06:53 PM
And trips with the wife to walmart....................

2


(Since Opening Weekend)

TX.X-30 fan
12-06-2010, 08:06 PM
2


(Since Opening Weekend)





Not too bad and now you will be safe since walmart is teaming with homeland security to protect us.........:D

76S&S
12-07-2010, 05:35 PM
Sounds like a nice 5,000 dollar afternoon:D

No charge to hunt but the mounts will be in the 1,500 range................:D

ShamrockIV
12-14-2010, 11:16 AM
At $70 a box it's kinda hard to!

Thats why i roll my own. alot more fun.

i am contemplating a 338 lapua and that will def be a cause to reload my own

03 35th Anniversary
12-14-2010, 05:43 PM
Thats why i roll my own. alot more fun.

i am contemplating a 338 lapua and that will def be a cause to reload my own

I have never tried it. So I wouldn't know where to start...

TX.X-30 fan
12-14-2010, 07:45 PM
No charge to hunt but the mounts will be in the 1,500 range................:D





Nothing is free and especially at high fenced exotic ranches.:confused:

2RLAKE
12-14-2010, 10:49 PM
got to love reloading ... i do most my own as you can tailor the loads specifically for what you want ... i'm a huge Barnes TSX believer ... i think i'm 9 for 10 of animals dropping in their tracks with the triple shick bullets ... and the 10th was my fault (shot placvement but she only went 20 yards).

Is the 338 Lapua what the Canadian sniper team used to set the world record long distance shot of almost 1.5 miles?

ShamrockIV
12-15-2010, 10:39 AM
got to love reloading ... i do most my own as you can tailor the loads specifically for what you want ... i'm a huge Barnes TSX believer ... i think i'm 9 for 10 of animals dropping in their tracks with the triple shick bullets ... and the 10th was my fault (shot placvement but she only went 20 yards).

Is the 338 Lapua what the Canadian sniper team used to set the world record long distance shot of almost 1.5 miles?

i believe it is. i am trying to decide on either a 264 wim mag which shines out to about 800 yards or the lapua which gets it done at about 1200.

76S&S
12-15-2010, 05:54 PM
Nothing is free and especially at high fenced exotic ranches.:confused:

I'm not complaining, it was a great day with my boys.

ShamrockIV
12-16-2010, 12:04 PM
I have never tried it. So I wouldn't know where to start...


it's not hard man. i got started when i was a kid. me and my dad had a lee hand loader. i have graduated to a press now. it is fun i even get my duaghters to help knock out primers and stuff they enjoy it. plus i can shoot more cause it is not so dang high. i shoot alot od 308 which is not that expensive, but when i switch to the 22-250 it can cost bucks!!