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Latviaman
11-26-2009, 12:14 PM
I have a 99 Maristar with the Indmar LS1 Corvette Motor. I was confused on what oil filter to purhase, the one on now is a aftermarket. I called Inmar ahd he says use the PZ3. Great, but I go to the Indmar website and the manual says, "All 5.7 Liter except LS1 use Pennzoil PZ3', If it is a LS1 use Napa Gold 1042. Any ideas why he (Indmar) says PZ3 and the PDF on the Indmar site says use a Napa Gold 1042.. Last question I am not sure what tranny/vdrive I have. I think I have the ZF Hurth In-Line, but am not sure. Thanks in Advance.

TEAL98
11-26-2009, 08:48 PM
I was always under the impression that a filter is a filter. So what would make the difference as to why you may need a "specific" filter. Probably because of the diameter of the ring base on the bottom of the block, and the thread pattern. If you've got the LS1 motor, go to advance or auto-zone and put an ACDelco filter on it. That's what I did. Even though I don't have the LT1, I've done 2 oil changes on my "Vortec MX" Indmar 350 and have put the PF454 on it both times. Never a problem.

TEAL98
11-26-2009, 08:49 PM
Oh yeah, and WHY would you buy a MasterCraft with an LS1 motor? They SUCK!:D:cool:

dummy
11-27-2009, 09:49 AM
I'm not immune to being wrong, which is why I use the handle "dummy", but I wasn't aware Mastercraft put an LS1 in a '99 model. Are you sure it's not an LTR?

If it's the LTR you'll use Napa Gold PN 1069.

If you do have the LS1, I'd just use the Napa Gold one. They're made by WIX and are pretty much one of the best filters going.

JohnnyB
11-27-2009, 11:51 AM
Check your crossref on the WIX website, but I believe the PZ3 crosses with a Carquest Gold 85069 which is actually a WIX filter. Filters are not just filters.....did some research a while back and found that the WIX was a good filter for the $$. IIRC, purulator made good filters, too. Fram...not so good.

bigmac
11-27-2009, 12:35 PM
Also, the NAPA Gold 1069 is that same Wix filter.

Whether or not an oil filter is any good isn't entirely related to its filtration capability. Stay away from the Pennzoil filters IMHO - they are made by Fram, and like many or most Fram oil filters are generally poorly rated for construction and reliable function of the anti-drainback valve.

Latviaman
11-27-2009, 02:53 PM
Thanks for your replies:

Teal98 I do not believe all filters are the same. I think the word on the streets Napa Gold is made by wix and they are among the best and to use your word on the 2nd post. Frams are supposed to suck.

Dummy: I think you are going to have to give me your screen name. I did do some further looking and looks like I do have the LT-1 Thanks

and the other replies, I think I will get the Napa Gold 1069. Thanks again for you replies.

Witness140
11-27-2009, 08:37 PM
The NAPA gold 1060 also fits - and is just a taller version of the 1069. That is what I use on my MCX. Made by WIX for NAPA.

TX.X-30 fan
11-27-2009, 09:27 PM
I like the AC Delco

TEAL98
11-27-2009, 10:06 PM
I like the AC Delco

And I agree. Mobil 1 5W30 synthetic in the Yukon with 200k miles and goin strong, it's a whole life with a Delco filter, can't complain:)

Latviaman, whoever said all filters were the same? Not I, for sure! Fram even had a class action lawsuit brought against them sometime in the mid-late 90s, because of the junk they were putting on the shelves as far as oil filters. I had heard Wix was amongst the best (if not the VERY best) years ago. I was not aware they were making Napa filters. Anyways, as long as you found what you needed, that's what counts. I know that my delco filters have worked fine for me, and I probably won't be inclined to change anytime in the near future. Besides, if everybody picked the same stuff, we would all be communists... or is it socialists...:confused:

TX.X-30 fan
11-27-2009, 10:20 PM
And I agree. Mobil 1 5W30 synthetic in the Yukon with 200k miles and goin strong, it's a whole life with a Delco filter, can't complain





That's my wifes 99 suburban to a tee except 123,000 :D

JohnnyB
11-28-2009, 09:30 AM
Carquest premium filters on all my vehicles....my mechanic uses them, too. Just use dino oil and change religiously every 3K

1998 Tahoe w/ 240K
2003 'burb w/ 180K

Maybe its the brand of truck, not the brand of filter :rolleyes:

TEAL98
11-28-2009, 01:23 PM
DAMNIT, I DID SAY ALL FILTERS WERE THE SAME! Ok, I said "a filter is a filter", so I didn't EXACTLY say "all filters are the same";) Whatever, can't even save my own a$$ on this one....... yeah ya got me:D

TEAL98
11-28-2009, 01:25 PM
Maybe its the brand of truck, not the brand of filter :rolleyes:

I totally agree

TMCNo1
11-28-2009, 01:42 PM
I had always run Fram filters on my vehicles till I came to Team Talk and found more about them.
With that in mind, in 1998, I sold a '87 Olds Cutlass Cruiser Stationwagon with 193 K miles on it and the buyer still has the car and his wife drives it daily with 258K miles on it and the engine has never been opened up. All it has ever had on it is a Fram filter and Valvoline 10W40 All Climate oil in it every 3K miles. Dang Fram filters, they'll be the death of that car yet.

TEAL98
11-28-2009, 01:46 PM
I had always run Fram filters on my vehicles till I came to Team Talk and found more about them.
With that in mind, in 1998, I sold a '87 Olds Cutlass Cruiser Stationwagon with 193 K miles on it and the buyer still has the car and his wife drives it daily with 258K miles on it and the engine has never been opened up. All it has ever had on it is a Fram filter and Valvoline 10W40 All Climate oil in it every 3K miles. Dang Fram filters, they'll be the death of that car yet.

They will Harold, I swear, they will:D

bigmac
11-28-2009, 03:19 PM
I had always run Fram filters on my vehicles till I came to Team Talk and found more about them.
With that in mind, in 1998, I sold a '87 Olds Cutlass Cruiser Stationwagon with 193 K miles on it and the buyer still has the car and his wife drives it daily with 258K miles on it and the engine has never been opened up. All it has ever had on it is a Fram filter and Valvoline 10W40 All Climate oil in it every 3K miles. Dang Fram filters, they'll be the death of that car yet.

Valid point that helps to illustrate the fact that for all of our slavish dependence on oil company marketing to tell us what kind of oil and filters we should be using in our various engines, (and to vigorously defend our choice against non-believers), it very probably doesn't make any difference whatsoever in practical terms for an engine in normal use.