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BrianM
06-10-2005, 02:03 PM
OK, so the boat is just about do for an oil change and this time around I am going to switch from straight 30w to the now reccomended by Indmar 15w40. I know that Indmar reccomends Penzoil but as stated before that is a bit hard to find. I picked up some Rotella Heavy Duty 15w40 that was on sale today at Wally World for $6.47 a gallon. The question is....Any reason not to use the Rotella?

ski_king
06-10-2005, 02:07 PM
I got myself some today at wal-mart.

Here is Engine Nuts recommendation. (http://www.tmcowners.com/teamtalk/showpost.php?p=50200&postcount=12)

BrianM
06-10-2005, 02:19 PM
I searched that earlier and must of missed that post. That answers the question exactly.

east tx skier
06-10-2005, 02:42 PM
Brian, go to Walmart's "marine" section as opposed to the automotive section where all the oil is. They stock Pennzoil 15W40 Marine Oil at Walley World.

BrianM
06-10-2005, 04:02 PM
Not at my Wally World. I went to that section as per your prior posts and they did not have it. The only oil they had over there was the Penazoil 2 cycle oil.

I'll use the Rotella it should do me just fine.

OhioProstar
06-10-2005, 04:16 PM
I run the Valvoline Diesel version with great results.

east tx skier
06-10-2005, 04:18 PM
Not at my Wally World. I went to that section as per your prior posts and they did not have it. The only oil they had over there was the Penazoil 2 cycle oil.

I'll use the Rotella it should do me just fine.

I'm shocked and appalled. What's the matter with them?

lakes Rick
06-10-2005, 09:05 PM
The car club "people" I correspond with use the diesel oil in our older "muscle" cars.. There is more detergent and more "metal"s in it to lube our tappet camshafts.. Only negatives are it will harm catalytic converters of which our pre 73 cars do not have.....

Rotella, Delvac, and Delo are all used.......

Bongo
06-10-2005, 10:34 PM
The car club "people" I correspond with use the diesel oil in our older "muscle" cars.. There is more detergent and more "metal"s in it to lube our tappet camshafts.. Only negatives are it will harm catalytic converters of which our pre 73 cars do not have.....


I hadn't heard this before. I'll have to look into it for my ol' Convertible ('66 Lemans).

What have you got for a car/engine?

Bongo

MarkP
06-10-2005, 10:48 PM
Not at my Wally World. I went to that section as per your prior posts and they did not have it. The only oil they had over there was the Penazoil 2 cycle oil.

I'll use the Rotella it should do me just fine.
Thatís what I used the last time too. For the same reason as you..

lakes Rick
06-11-2005, 01:50 AM
I hadn't heard this before. I'll have to look into it for my ol' Convertible ('66 Lemans).

What have you got for a car/engine?

Bongo

The oil with the sunburst insignia is designed to be more earth friendly. You want to stay away from that if you can.. Most modern engines have a roller cam and do not need the metals ( mostly zinc) for the flat tappet cams.. At least this is what I have been told, but I can assure you this has been discussed in depth on the MOPAR site..

67 dodge R/T vert.... Its the reason my boat is not out yet...

Bongo
06-13-2005, 12:09 AM
67 dodge R/T vert.... Its the reason my boat is not out yet...



Cool car. I'm a little more partial to the '69 1/2 and '70 versions, and watch for any "deals". (None yet.) Boy, have MOPAR cars of this vintage gone through the ceiling over the past couple years. I also watch for GTOs of the same vintage as mine ('66 or '67), but they also are getting pretty expensive.

Bongo

milkmania
06-13-2005, 12:21 AM
I picked up a gallon & a quart of Rotella's 15w40 earlier this week also...
since this is my very first Ford anything, I wasn't sure about filters, so I picked up Fram Tough Guard TG8A:o

bucky
06-13-2005, 12:47 AM
I picked up a gallon & a quart of Rotella's 15w40 earlier this week also...
since this is my very first Ford anything, I wasn't sure about filters, so I picked up Fram Tough Guard TG8A:o

FWIW:
Out of curiosity, I cut open several brands of filters (unused) to check out the quality, and while I don't have the info in front of me, I remember that Fram was the lowest quality (as of 4 years ago). Some internal parts (endcap?) were made of cardboard, and there wasn't much filter area. Motorcraft & Purolator were better. The best by quite a margin, which aren't sold in wal-mart, were k&n and wix, wix being 1/4 the price of k&n.
Sorry for the threadjack, too much caffeine.

Leroy
06-13-2005, 12:58 AM
Bucky; I've heard this before, is this true for all Fram filters? I thought they had different quality levels.

FWIW:
Out of curiosity, I cut open several brands of filters (unused) to check out the quality, and while I don't have the info in front of me, I remember that Fram was the lowest quality (as of 4 years ago). Some internal parts (endcap?) were made of cardboard, and there wasn't much filter area. Motorcraft & Purolator were better. The best by quite a margin, which aren't sold in wal-mart, were k&n and wix, wix being 1/4 the price of k&n.
Sorry for the threadjack, too much caffeine.

FrankSchwab
06-15-2005, 04:33 PM
Read through this guy's experience cutting apart a bunch of filters:
knize (http://minimopar.knizefamily.net/oilfilterstudy.html)

/frank

lakes Rick
06-15-2005, 08:04 PM
Cool car. I'm a little more partial to the '69 1/2 and '70 versions, and watch for any "deals". (None yet.)

Bongo

Yeah everybody is....

Had a 69 1/2 A12 super bee when I was 18... Sold it for $775... Saw one go for over $100,000 the other day....

lakes Rick
06-15-2005, 08:06 PM
Bucky; I've heard this before, is this true for all Fram filters? I thought they had different quality levels.

Fram quality has definetely suffered the last few years.. New owner some years ago ( big conglomerate)...
Again, same car site, Recommended Wix filters... Napa GOLD same thing....

Psheehy
06-15-2005, 10:28 PM
I have run Rotella T oil in several cars that went 200k to 250k miles. When I did go into the engines, I was amazed how clean they were. It is real good oil. I run a Valvoline in my boat just because I could get the 20W 50W. You will not have any problems as long as you change oil & filter like you are suppose to. Paul Greensboro, NC

lakes Rick
06-16-2005, 10:31 AM
Just to add, Castrol makes a semi-synthetic 15-40.. Seems to be a hard weight to come by except for the Diesel oils.....

BriEOD
06-16-2005, 03:10 PM
Brian, go to Walmart's "marine" section as opposed to the automotive section where all the oil is. They stock Pennzoil 15W40 Marine Oil at Walley World.

Got some today $1.68 a quart. Thanks for the tip Doug. I've got to change the oil before our big trip next week.

jimmer2880
06-16-2005, 03:41 PM
Got some today $1.68 a quart. Thanks for the tip Doug. I've got to change the oil before our big trip next week.

Dang BriEOD - why haven't you out-lined all your tools yet?

just kidding - I'm envious. All my tools are in boxes & not hanging up where I can see them. Nice shop!

BriEOD
06-16-2005, 03:56 PM
Thanks Jim. Yeah, guess I need to outline them. I'm running out of room fast. Between fridges, tools, 4 wheeler, lawn mowers, it never ends. Sorry for the thread jack.

BriEOD
06-16-2005, 03:57 PM
other side...

PeteS
06-16-2005, 04:02 PM
Nice looking bench, BriEOD.

BriEOD
06-16-2005, 05:18 PM
Thanks Pete.

jimmer2880
06-16-2005, 07:04 PM
looks like it's time to expand the garage there a bit. :D

X-45
06-22-2005, 02:49 PM
OK, so the boat is just about do for an oil change and this time around I am going to switch from straight 30w to the now reccomended by Indmar 15w40. I know that Indmar reccomends Penzoil but as stated before that is a bit hard to find. I picked up some Rotella Heavy Duty 15w40 that was on sale today at Wally World for $6.47 a gallon. The question is....Any reason not to use the Rotella?
I own an X-45 with a MCX 350 and the service manager told me to only use 30 weight oil.

FrankSchwab
06-22-2005, 03:00 PM
I think you should call up Mastercraft and/or Indmar and ask them their opinion.

Any reason you can think of that a service manager at a boat shop in Podunk should be believed over those two?

/frank

BrianM
06-22-2005, 03:15 PM
I own an X-45 with a MCX 350 and the service manager told me to only use 30 weight oil.

Indmar reccomendation is 15w40 oil with the exception of big blocks 8.1 etc. which they reccomend straight 40w.

east tx skier
06-22-2005, 03:24 PM
A little late, and another threadjack, but BriEOD, I'm envious of the tool organization. Mine are hung, but always get put back differently.

Tom023
06-22-2005, 03:33 PM
While they are hanging, outline them with a marker. They will always get back in the same spot.

BriEOD
06-22-2005, 03:39 PM
Yeah until it breaks or you lose it or get a new tool. Then you have to re-do the board because you have some askew black mark.

BriEOD
06-22-2005, 03:41 PM
A little late, and another threadjack, but BriEOD, I'm envious of the tool organization. Mine are hung, but always get put back differently.

Thanks, I do what I can. ;)

Tom023
06-22-2005, 03:42 PM
Yeah until it breaks or you lose it or get a new tool. Then you have to re-do the board because you have some askew black mark.

...or buy the same tool to replace it.

bucky
07-19-2005, 07:32 PM
Bucky; I've heard this before, is this true for all Fram filters? I thought they had different quality levels.
Sorry to dredge up a dead thread, but i just found your question.
All I've seen of fram (and that is what they sell at wal-mart) is that they have 3 levels of marketing. The internals are close to the same with some different paint and some non-skid on the outside. Of course, now that you've asked, I'll have to cut open some more. Fram profits will skyrocket just from me proving how sorry they are. I'll take pictures.
p.s.- I removed the last fram filter left on one of my vehicles (99 miata) and it clunks. the filter fell off inside the can.

lakes Rick
07-19-2005, 08:12 PM
Lots of complaints about fram on the Mopar site I belong to..

I see that Castrol now has a 15-40 heavy duty diesel oil....