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BuffaloCruiser
11-15-2009, 11:47 PM
I am in the process of buying my first boat and have narrowed it down to a 2003 X2 with the predator engine or a 2004 X2 with the MCX engine. The 04 has fifty more hours and perfect pass but is priced $2000 higher. Is it worth it, spending the extra cash for the MCX engine? Does anyone know the difference in fuel economy? The 03 is in mint condition.

peason
11-16-2009, 08:02 AM
first of all I do not own an X2 but what I have read on many of the posts here, My suggestion is the 2004 with the MCX. There has been a lot of discussion concerning this topic - do a search on this forum. As for fuel consumption - i don't think you will see much of a difference. Keep in mind the perfect pass is worth at least $1000 more, so basically you are getting a newer boat with a bigger engine for $1000 more - a no brainer.

carracer
11-16-2009, 08:08 AM
you will enjoy perfect pass, and to retro the 02 you will spend most of the 2k

carracer
11-16-2009, 08:09 AM
03 not 02 need glasses

carracer
11-16-2009, 08:10 AM
you will enjoy perfect pass, and to retro the 03 you will spend most of the 2k

bturner2
11-16-2009, 08:30 AM
Conditions of both boats being the same (both in excellent condition) I wouldn't worry about the 50 hours and would jump on the the 04. Believe me you won't notice the gas mileage between the two and the newer boat is probably worth at least $1k more just for being a year newer.

As stated relentlessly in other posts there are strong opinions on MCX vrs. Predator but IMO either will be just fine in a boat this size. The fact that the 04 is newer, has a motor upgrade and PP makes it the clear choice to me.

corey
11-16-2009, 09:50 AM
That boat has no problem running with a 310 hp engine but I'd still go with the 04. Bigger engine is never a bad thing, nicer board racks(hard to replace the 03 racks if they break or bend), Perfect Pass ($1500 installed and a life saver) year newer.

BuffaloCruiser
11-16-2009, 10:27 AM
Thanks for the info, I know the guy selling the 03 is telling the truth about the boat. The guy with the 04 will tell me anything to sell the boat, I haven't seen the 04 but will make the drive to see it. Buying a boat is a vicious circle I'm allready $6 G over what I budgeted. It's hard to say stop but the boats are always just a bit better for that extra grand.

bigmac
11-16-2009, 10:34 AM
If the 04's in good shape, it's a LOT better for $1000 extra.

Mag_Red
11-16-2009, 11:26 AM
make sure to check the upholstery for any signs of ripping;)

bigmac
11-16-2009, 11:42 AM
make sure to check the upholstery for any signs of ripping;)

2003's and 2004's are equally vulnerable, aren't they?

brucemac
11-17-2009, 06:47 PM
I love my 03. I'd say go with your gut and I wouldn't agree that the 04 is "a lot" better. replacing/repairing the board racks on an 03 is costly, but they work great. Mymastercraft has the repair kit for $456. Not sure what all is included though. If the 03 has the paddle wheel which my bet says it does you can get Perfect Pass Stargazer Wake edition for $1300 and install it yourself. Are the trailers both identical? Find out if you can if the 03 had the warranty/service bulletin work done on the brake calipers. Good luck and let is know how it turns out. You'll love the boat.

brucemac
11-17-2009, 06:55 PM
And someone can correct me if I'm wrong but the vinyl did not change until 05 on that boat

BuffaloCruiser
11-17-2009, 11:13 PM
I looked at the 04 and wasn't impressed with the "used car salesman" who was selling it, so I have now narrowed it down to a 2003 X2, with not many options, or the same dealer has a 2003 Malibu Wakesetter VLX 21 foot, fully loaded all options. Does anybody know anything about Malibu Wakesetters? Any comments would be appreciated.

LaRue
11-18-2009, 05:31 AM
Uh, well, um, its like this.....:(

venetrex
11-18-2009, 07:15 AM
I dunno, malibu's are nice boats, but they are NO mastercraft... Look at construction..

bturner2
11-18-2009, 08:48 AM
Most of the guys on this site are die hard MC guys (myself included). I've changed boats several times over the last 10 years and have always considered BU's to be very good boat. I've always tried to keep an open mind and look at both as options for the new ride. It just seems that for some reason every time I get down to actually driving and comparing the two I end up with the MC.

The last time I went shopping (this past spring) I was very close to buying a BU. I was comparing the BU VTX against the X2. The VTX is a very nice boat but I just liked the way the X2 was built (better carpeting, materials, layout and the trailer the BU dealer used was cheap). I think a lot of comes down to what you get used to and how well you're able to look into the details of construction. I've also experienced very good resale value and demand for my previous MCs.

If you're looking for inside information on issues with the BUs you may want to head over to their owner site and take a look around.

shunra
11-18-2009, 12:59 PM
I looked at the 04 and wasn't impressed with the "used car salesman" who was selling it, so I have now narrowed it down to a 2003 X2, with not many options, or the same dealer has a 2003 Malibu Wakesetter VLX 21 foot, fully loaded all options. Does anybody know anything about Malibu Wakesetters? Any comments would be appreciated.

What about this? Make the "used car salesman" a take it or leave it offer that is low enough to make it worth it to you. If he takes your offer, you got a great deal, a newer boat, perfect pass, and some money in the pocket to take care of any possible problems. If he doesn't, no big deal, you don't really like him anyway. :D In this economy you could be pleasently surprised.

The 04 does seem like a better deal considering it is newer, has the MCX, and perfect pass.

BuffaloCruiser
11-19-2009, 09:54 PM
Well, after trying the Malibu twice on the water it still ran like crap! Don't know what was wrong but absolutely no hole shot. Needless to say we put the prop on the 03 X-2 took it out and according to me it handled like a race car! Three in the boat and we were on plane in about 3 seconds, I took it to about 35 and cranked it. WOW! Right then I made my mind up, hooked up and raced back to Alberta. I ended up getting it for the price we talked on the phone and he threw in the Stargazer with it. I spent most of the afternoon detailing it. Not a single flaw for the 110 hrs on it. All I need is a set of those clamp down style wakeboard racks and I'm good to go. I went with my gut, bought it from the honest guy not the "used car salesman" and am way further ahead. Thanks Mastercraft Forum for all your help! Can't wait till summer.

mccobmd
11-19-2009, 11:14 PM
Congrats, I have an 06 X1 same enging and agree, handles like a race car and quick out of the hole.

sand2snow22
11-19-2009, 11:16 PM
Well, after trying the Malibu twice on the water it still ran like crap! Don't know what was wrong but absolutely no hole shot. Needless to say we put the prop on the 03 X-2 took it out and according to me it handled like a race car! Three in the boat and we were on plane in about 3 seconds, I took it to about 35 and cranked it. WOW! Right then I made my mind up, hooked up and raced back to Alberta. I ended up getting it for the price we talked on the phone and he threw in the Stargazer with it. I spent most of the afternoon detailing it. Not a single flaw for the 110 hrs on it. All I need is a set of those clamp down style wakeboard racks and I'm good to go. I went with my gut, bought it from the honest guy not the "used car salesman" and am way further ahead. Thanks Mastercraft Forum for all your help! Can't wait till summer.

Congrats. Post pics. I think there is a set of your wakeboard racks on ebay right now.

shunra
11-20-2009, 12:59 PM
Well, after trying the Malibu twice on the water it still ran like crap! Don't know what was wrong but absolutely no hole shot. Needless to say we put the prop on the 03 X-2 took it out and according to me it handled like a race car! Three in the boat and we were on plane in about 3 seconds, I took it to about 35 and cranked it. WOW! Right then I made my mind up, hooked up and raced back to Alberta. I ended up getting it for the price we talked on the phone and he threw in the Stargazer with it. I spent most of the afternoon detailing it. Not a single flaw for the 110 hrs on it. All I need is a set of those clamp down style wakeboard racks and I'm good to go. I went with my gut, bought it from the honest guy not the "used car salesman" and am way further ahead. Thanks Mastercraft Forum for all your help! Can't wait till summer.

Awsome. Congrats. Good decision.

I did almost the exact same thing as you 2 years ago. I bought mine in California and brought it back to Alberta. Over that first winter I installed a heater and a hot water shower, and couldn't wait for the season to start. Winter seemed to last for ever.

Don't forget to winterize it!

What part of Alberta are you from?

brucemac
11-20-2009, 03:10 PM
right on, let's see some pics

BuffaloCruiser
11-20-2009, 08:11 PM
I am about 1 hour east of Calgary. My wife is the computer guru, I will get her on posting some pics.

BuffaloCruiser
11-21-2009, 12:50 AM
Here they are.

Hrkdrivr
11-21-2009, 01:06 AM
Nice boat!! Congrats!!

And, again, I have garage envy!!!

TOO-TALL
11-21-2009, 01:17 AM
Great find.....

The boat looks in great shape.
I have the same boat.Your going to love it.

bturner2
11-21-2009, 06:40 AM
Nice boat. Looks like it's in excellent condition. Congratulations.

JohnE
11-21-2009, 07:52 AM
Nice boat, congratulations. Now pony up $30 for some new trailer guide pads.:D

mccobmd
11-21-2009, 10:02 AM
Love the boat, Mine is an X1, was close to going to an X2 pickle fork but stayed with that boat.

brucemac
11-21-2009, 11:21 AM
wow, she's a beaut. congrats! you'll love the boat. same model same year here and it's been awesome. please keep us posted on finding those racks. going to be tough. i wouldn't mind having a spare.

X25 ED
11-21-2009, 02:09 PM
nice boat congrats from the netherlands

TEAL98
11-21-2009, 02:49 PM
Two thumbs up... when I say goodbye to the 190 in the spring, I will be searching left and right for an X-series... love the open bow style:)

sand2snow22
11-21-2009, 06:12 PM
Same boat?

http://spokane.craigslist.org/boa/1456616559.html

BuffaloCruiser
11-21-2009, 08:55 PM
I think so, but I didn't pay that for it. Do you have a link for those racks?

corey
11-21-2009, 08:59 PM
You can get replacement racks from CompTech. They make racks for Sky Skis mostly but they make a direct replacement for the 03 MC towers, one of our customers has one on his X-10.

brucemac
11-21-2009, 11:02 PM
hey corey, you got a link? or contact/number? quite a few comptech's in google.

sand2snow22
11-22-2009, 12:15 AM
Buffalo, check your private messages!

corey
11-22-2009, 11:24 AM
This is what the arms look like. If you call them they can modify them so they bolt directly where the old factory racks were http://www.skyski.com/node/323