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wesgardner
08-17-2004, 07:06 PM
Hey All,

Well I finally got around to looking at my distributor a little more carefully and when I opened 'er up, guess what...there's points in thar matey!

I haven't really fooled with engines in any serious manner since the '70's when points were still common (you youngsters won't have the slightest idea) but anyhow, what to do? My motor runs fine, she's a bit hard to start (several revolutions are necessary before catching) but she does start each and every time. I've heard of the miracle cure - aftermarket electronic ignition for $100 or so. Realizing that my beloved points have become obsolete along with so many other things, should I invest in this "new" technology?

Wes

bradamerry
08-17-2004, 07:41 PM
Wes, you will find most people on this board will say, CHANGE THEM! But I have them and had to file them this weekend at the lake and I'm thinking of keeping them.

Reason 1-- I can work on them!
Reason 2-- If the electronic stuff goes out, I'm down.And they can!
Reason 3-- My uncle is a great engine man and says keep them.
Reason 4-- I can change or file them in about 30 minutes(on the water)
Reason 5-- They cost less to replace.



I just keep an extra set in the boat w/ the tools I need!

lakes Rick
08-17-2004, 08:04 PM
At the very least replace them now with new points/condenser...

bradamerry
08-17-2004, 08:12 PM
Wes, I also keep an extra condenser and coil. Lakes Rick does make a good point!

MarkP
08-17-2004, 08:14 PM
I changed over on my old Nautique and got 5 or 6 trouble free years. Boat was still running fine when I sold it. That coming from someone that actually didnít mind working on them.

I changed them for the more reliable electronic set-up. Back then I ran on more rivers and rarely on lakes. Sometimes 30 min would put you over a dam. Ok maybe thatís a little dramatic as I also know how to use an anchor. But still some of the best money I have spent..

Leroy
08-17-2004, 09:36 PM
Sorry to say, in my mind, that sentimental song is over, I have filed so many sets of points I have that etched in my brain even though I haven't seen a set in 20 years. Change to electronic and enjoy the trouble free days. :banana: first banana I've used!!

Knoxes
08-17-2004, 10:21 PM
I'll add this because I always add this: Make sure you don't leave the ignition in the on position unless the motor is running. You'll burn out the electronic unit. Ask me how I know this. (and since nobody has, I'll tell the story anyway).

My wife and son (5 yr old) were out last summer and I got a call at work. "It won't start" she says. We ran thru a number of things to check and then she says it's smoking from that black thing on the front of the motor. "Well honey, everything on the motor is black - where are you? I'll come and get you."

"I'm not sure", she says.

It's a 32K acre lake....

Wes
08-17-2004, 11:47 PM
I thought I would change my points to electronic as well, although the engine ran perfectly, my friends have all changed to the Pertronixs system with great results. I must have got a faulty system, because the engine sounded like it was going to blow up, almost like the module was sending out a double impulse. I did the usual troubleshooting, (correct wiring, retimed the engine, etc), finally went back to the points and it has been running perfectly ever since. I believe there is an old saying 'if it aint broke, don't fix it' , I think I there is some truth to that statement. :) BTW I have a 1988 ProStar 190 with the 351 Indmar

tph
08-18-2004, 02:54 AM
I Changed over to a Pertronix system this summer. The engine performance is great. It's a good idea to take a look at your coil and resistor when you change over. Pertronix supplies some info on their website about testing the system. Perhaps some of the problems that people encounter have more to do with these parts than the new electronic ignition. I'm sold so far, but I do carry the old point system in my toolbox just in case.

BriEOD
08-18-2004, 06:47 AM
Spend the $90 and do it. You won't regret it. The typewriter worked fine, but I bet you use MS Word now, right? I don't buy that if it ain't broke don't fix it. It's a 30 minute job and a good upgrade for your boat.

Just my humble "youngin" opinion.

wesgardner
08-18-2004, 09:13 AM
Hey All,

Maybe I'll stay the line this season...I was looking at the Pertronix Igniter II that claims to have an ignition protection deal so you don't fry the unit....I would also upgrade my coil and plug wires and plugs (I have no idea the history of the plugs and wires but the wires are of a variety of colors and ages)

Thanx for all the feedback...

Wes

Jcsumlin
07-07-2015, 05:21 PM
I have a 1988 Prostar 190 Indmar Ford 351, it starts and runs great, just put a new Holley on it! Over the last couple of years it has been falling off when we get out on a dead run, which is rare. We do a lot of wake boarding. Just stalls a little and decelerates. Any thoughts? You may have sold her?

slushpup
07-07-2015, 07:29 PM
said it many times before.....filed points for years on my old resorter. first thing I changed on the tri star was the ignition that was 10 years ago.......

catamount
07-08-2015, 10:13 AM
What a thread bump!

thatsmrmastercraft
07-08-2015, 10:54 AM
I have a 1988 Prostar 190 Indmar Ford 351, it starts and runs great, just put a new Holley on it! Over the last couple of years it has been falling off when we get out on a dead run, which is rare. We do a lot of wake boarding. Just stalls a little and decelerates. Any thoughts? You may have sold her?

Welcome to Team Talk. If you are having power loss on an extended run, you are likely running out of fuel. Did you replace your fuel filter with the new carb? Have you replaced the rubber fuel line from the fuel tank to the fuel pump? Have you cleaned the tank vent on the top of the transom? These are the three likely causes.

Nothing wrong with running points, just be sure to change them yearly and set with a dwell meter if you want them to work properly for you. Sure you can set them with a matchbook cover or a worn dime, but that only gets them close. I have run more than a couple muscle cars that used points back in the day, and there is a big difference in having them set right.

ahhudgins
07-09-2015, 12:13 PM
Why in the world would anybody spend 30 minutes doing a simple upgrade on a 26 year old boat when you can simply recheck the gap and file/replace them every few years.:rolleyes:
You crazy young kids with your fancy cassette players.

tex599
07-10-2015, 01:27 PM
I agree, points are cheap and easy to replace yearly and rarely fail, unlike the electronic modules. If adjusted properly the engine runs great all you need is a good dwell meter. My S&S is 35 years old and I do not think I would see much gain with electronic ignition.

thatsmrmastercraft
07-10-2015, 02:57 PM
Why in the world would anybody spend 30 minutes doing a simple upgrade on a 26 year old boat when you can simply recheck the gap and file/replace them every few years.:rolleyes:
You crazy young kids with your fancy cassette players.

I agree, points are cheap and easy to replace yearly and rarely fail, unlike the electronic modules. If adjusted properly the engine runs great all you need is a good dwell meter. My S&S is 35 years old and I do not think I would see much gain with electronic ignition.

I was really mad when they put pneumatic tires on vehicles and took the hand-crank starter off. Wood spoke wheels and hand cranks worked just fine. :rolleyes:

1redTA
07-10-2015, 03:41 PM
I love saddling my horse every morning on the way to work��

el Dax
07-10-2015, 03:51 PM
Was reading along happily, but damned if my reading candles went out. I'll post tomorrow after my monthly trip to the general store for more rations.