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mikeyg
11-11-2009, 10:02 AM
I was thinking about installing a tower on my 1991 ps190. I would think that the newer boats would have been reinforced more to accept the added strain of a tower. I am worried that if I was to put a tower on my 91' it would create too much strain and stress crack the gel coat. Anyone have any insight on this? I would fabricate some larger backer plates to better distribute the load. If anyone has a tower on their ps190 let me know. or maybe even post some pictures so I can get a better idea of what I might want.

Thanks

Thrall
11-11-2009, 10:06 AM
Look around. There's tons of 190s with towers on them and older boats too. I've never had a problem w/ my '96 and never heard of stress problems with any MC with a tower.
Don't sweat it. Get your favorite tower and put it on.

Double D
11-11-2009, 10:08 AM
The way MasterCrafts and Ski Boats in general are made, you shouldn't have a problem. My 94 PS205 is fine after 5 years of tower action. When I installed my Monster Tower they said the only boat model that needs to be reinforced is the POS Bayliner. :D

mikeyg
11-11-2009, 10:14 AM
Okay - just figured I would ask. I did search on here but came up with nothing.

Skipper
11-11-2009, 10:16 AM
Some people have installed towers without reinforcement, without issue. Here are a few ideas of how to reinforce the area you intend to mount the tower:

In each case, working below the deck, first remove excess foam, carpet, or other items and clean with acetone to create a good bonding surface. Also, use at least a 3:1 ratio in size, ie. if the diameter of the base of the tower bracket is 3 inches, then build up an area at least 9 inches.

1. Build up the area with fiberglass mat and epoxy resin. Use at least three layers of mat.
2. Laminate a 1/8" aluminum or stainless steel plate. First put a layer of resin and mat, followed by the plate, then more resin and mat.
3. Laminate a 3/4" thick plywood backing in the same method.

Let everything set for at least 12 hours before mounting the tower brackets. Also, before drilling through gelcote cover the are with masking tape and run the drill bit backwards to start the hole without chipping or cracking the gelcote.

Good luck.

mikeyg
11-11-2009, 10:29 AM
Some people have installed towers without reinforcement, without issue. Here are a few ideas of how to reinforce the area you intend to mount the tower:

In each case, working below the deck, first remove excess foam, carpet, or other items and clean with acetone to create a good bonding surface. Also, use at least a 3:1 ratio in size, ie. if the diameter of the base of the tower bracket is 3 inches, then build up an area at least 9 inches.

1. Build up the area with fiberglass mat and epoxy resin. Use at least three layers of mat.
2. Laminate a 1/8" aluminum or stainless steel plate. First put a layer of resin and mat, followed by the plate, then more resin and mat.
3. Laminate a 3/4" thick plywood backing in the same method.

Let everything set for at least 12 hours before mounting the tower brackets. Also, before drilling through gelcote cover the are with masking tape and run the drill bit backwards to start the hole without chipping or cracking the gelcote.

Good luck.

Hey - Thanks alot man!! That was more than helpful. I really appreciate it!!

Abe
11-11-2009, 07:55 PM
Here's a couple shots of my tower on my 1990 190, reinforced the backing plates with 1" ply, been solid as since no creaks or stress cracks. well worth the money :cool:

DooSPX
11-11-2009, 07:59 PM
Abe's is nice. also search for TayMC190. He has a ND mini tower on a 92. (same as your 91) and it looks great. ND, made the towers for MC for years

Ramhouse
11-11-2009, 08:41 PM
I installed a tower on my 190 5 yrs ago. No problems what so ever, BUT>>>did a few things to prevent any issues. You got to be aware that the deck and hull are only riveted together. What i did was............Where the tower mounts your boat has a radius and the mounting plates on the tower are flat. First mount tower, then remove it. Where it mounts go underneeth and glass in some 1/2' plywood a few inches past each hole. Then glass in a gussette to bond the hull to the deck where the tower mounts. Reinstall tower and off you go. A little work is a great piece of mind. I would post a pic of the work but i sold boat a few months ago, but here is pic of boat.

95prostar
11-11-2009, 11:27 PM
can anyone post pics of a 95 190 with a tower. i have seen the dimension tower but want to see others. i am going to buy and install here shortly.

Thrall
11-12-2009, 09:42 AM
Abe, that's one of the slickest looking towers, universal or custom, that I've seen. Remember you posting pictures before. Nice setup!

TayMC197
11-13-2009, 04:10 AM
here is my 92 with a mini tower... I have pulled plenty with it and no problems. I have aluminum backing plates for added support. ND gives you all of that. if you have anymore questions feel free to call and ask
Taylor

Farmer Ted
11-13-2009, 09:10 AM
I was thinking about installing a tower on my 1991 ps190. I would think that the newer boats would have been reinforced more to accept the added strain of a tower. I am worried that if I was to put a tower on my 91' it would create too much strain and stress crack the gel coat. Anyone have any insight on this? I would fabricate some larger backer plates to better distribute the load. If anyone has a tower on their ps190 let me know. or maybe even post some pictures so I can get a better idea of what I might want.

Thanks


www.newdimensiontowers.com

98 190 with a mini

etduc
11-13-2009, 10:29 AM
here is my 92 with a mini tower... I have pulled plenty with it and no problems. I have aluminum backing plates for added support. ND gives you all of that. 936-465-2763 if you have anymore questions feel free to call and ask
Taylor

do you have, any pictures with the bimini opened?

flipper
11-13-2009, 10:38 AM
As far as looks I don't really care for them on 190's, but that's up to the owner of the boat. I have a tower on my 190 only cause it was on the boat when I bought it, and I'm too cheap to take it off and repair the damage from the tower. I will say be ready for spider cracking in your gel coat.

JMann
11-13-2009, 12:55 PM
here is my 92 with a mini tower... I have pulled plenty with it and no problems. I have aluminum backing plates for added support. ND gives you all of that. 936-465-2763 if you have anymore questions feel free to call and ask
Taylor

I like the looks of your mini tower. The flow of the tubing along the window looks good.
I have a 190 with no tower but like the idea of getting stuff off the floor.

One of the best towers on a 190 I've seen posted.

Thrall
11-13-2009, 02:08 PM
I will say be ready for spider cracking in your gel coat.

Why do you say that? Your tower crack the deck?

C36
11-13-2009, 05:55 PM
can anyone post pics of a 95 190 with a tower. i have seen the dimension tower but want to see others. i am going to buy and install here shortly.

Some pictures of 1995 PS 190 and sister hulls to the 1995 PS 190 with different towers. I will start with the MasterCraft Zero Flex Flyers.

1995 PS190 with 1st Generation Zero Flex Flyer
53118

2001 X-5 (open bow) with 2nd Generation Zero Flex Flyer
53119

2002 X-5 (closed bow) with 3rd Generation Zero Flex Flyer
53120

C36
11-13-2009, 05:58 PM
Here are a few New Dimension Towers

1995 PS 190
53121

1996 PS 190
53122

1998 SportStar
53123

C36
11-13-2009, 05:59 PM
Here are a couple of Monster Tower (and/or look alikes)

1996 PS 190
53124

1998 SportStar
53125

C36
11-13-2009, 06:01 PM
And some "others"

1995 PS 190
53126

1996 PS 190
53127

1997 PS 190
53128

1999 SportStar (open bow)
53129

C36
11-13-2009, 06:02 PM
1999 SportStar (open bow)
53130

2001 19 Skier
53131

DooSPX
11-14-2009, 12:02 PM
1999 SportStar (open bow)
53130

2001 19 Skier
53131

the last picture is a 91-92 prostar 190

TEAL98
11-15-2009, 12:49 PM
Here's my '98 190 with a MonsterTower. I like it but I don't. I'm 5'7" and when I always get up out of my seat to grab a rope or help someone on skiis (because nobody is competent enough to drive my boat):rolleyes: I am always hitting my head on the bottom of one of the speakers. BUT, I do love the extra added sound of the speakers, and not having to CRANK the music to hear it real good, and like others have said, it helps get stuff off the floor. I bought mine with the tower already installed by Danny's guys at the MC dealer in Chesapeake, VA but would I install one if it didn't have one? Probably not

The first picture is the day I picked it up before the demo. The corners of the transom were very dull but with a little TLC I've been able to clean it up real good. Sorry these are the only pictures I have as the boat is at my buddy's, sleeping in the garage. I'll snap some more when I do my wash/wax/303 on it later

TEAL98
11-16-2009, 12:16 AM
Didn't even know I had this one, but here's a random shot before my winterization. I unbolted the front leg mounts to fold the tower down to get it into my buddy's garage. Figured I'd throw the second one just for grins... yeah, that little blue 10lb bottle found a new home:D

flya750
11-16-2009, 12:45 AM
What is that over the back of the 1996?

Is that a sun deck? A cover?? What is that??? :confused:


And some "others"


1996 PS 190
53127

TayMC197
11-17-2009, 04:06 AM
do you have, any pictures with the bimini opened?

Yes, I do.

TayMC197
11-17-2009, 04:12 AM
I normally don't fold out the back section of the bimini, I just use the front part... plenty of coverage. If my baby niece is in the boat, I might fold it out to get a bit more shade for her.

C36
11-17-2009, 12:45 PM
What is that over the back of the 1996?

Is that a sun deck? A cover?? What is that??? :confused:

Not my boat, but my guess is a custom made sundeck.

flipper
11-17-2009, 12:51 PM
Why do you say that? Your tower crack the deck?
Not the deck, just the gel coat

Thrall
11-17-2009, 01:06 PM
Didn't even know I had this one, but here's a random shot before my winterization. I unbolted the front leg mounts to fold the tower down to get it into my buddy's garage. Figured I'd throw the second one just for grins... yeah, that little blue 10lb bottle found a new home:D

Prostar runnin on that blue bottle now?

flya750
11-18-2009, 12:34 AM
That is cool!!!! I could fill that deck with bikini's :D

I imagine though weight in certain places on the edges would be tricky to withstand a human. I know my 1997 Sundeck if stepped on the very edge will give way.

Not my boat, but my guess is a custom made sundeck.

mikeyg
12-06-2009, 04:10 AM
thanks all. I ordered a tower and will post pics when i get it installed. stayed tuned

greenberg.jared
08-10-2017, 05:40 AM
Wondered if anybody done a tower with a 12ft Bimini.

Psgwake
08-10-2017, 06:31 AM
Since you live in TN, you can have ND install their tower for you if you want. They installed mine while I waited, they had it about 3 hrs. They reinforce the hull with fiberglass plates and resin before the install. I had them put a tower on my 1997 200VRS and never had a problem, I was very happy with it. The pro stars look really good with their mini towers IMO.

Psgwake
08-10-2017, 06:34 AM
Hey, my bad. It's really early in the morning and I just realized how old this thread is. Hope you got the tower you wanted, hell, hope you still have the boat!

greenberg.jared
08-10-2017, 09:08 AM
So here are my ideas to get a tower and a 12ft Bimini on the boat. Has anybody tried this and have pics or videos of this?

SS LS1
08-10-2017, 01:33 PM
:confused: Ok, not sure if this a joke but I'll bite....... so what is the point of a bimini like that on a ski boat? The sun coverage is obvious but you can't tow shat with a setup like that unless you hook to the transom of the boat. If you have no tower and rear bimini straps you can't use the center ski pylon for towing. Spend 3 to 4 grand for a tower so there is no rear bimini straps and now you can't use the tower tow point as the rope will rip off the rear bimini section.

Guess it just makes a ski boat into a tiny V8 powered pontoon that can't pull much unless you add a boom off the side. Seems like a good way to render a boat useless for its intended purpose? :o How about a bottle of SPF 50 in the glove box instead?

d2jp
08-10-2017, 03:35 PM
I'm scratching my head...wondering...but anyways here goes.

If you install a basic bimini top - of which you have many options - and you needed more shade, I would recommend an Anchor Shade from taylormade. I keep one in our boat for use when we're in the cove for a long time on a hot summer day. When done, just fold back up and stores in the gunnell pocket. Cheap ($130) solution...good luck.

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Shaun R
08-10-2017, 03:55 PM
Storage is so limited on a PS190 and that thing is big and in the way for anything but chilling in the cove. I would rather have a small a low bimini covering the drive and a long sleeve fishing style shirt and a hat for the rest of the time.

Thought that thing probably creates enough lift at 36mph to get the prop out of the water. Best wake ever?

06SUPERDUTY
08-10-2017, 04:38 PM
I realize this is an old post but thought I would put my 2 cents in.
When we were looking for a used Master Craft Prostar 190 we looked at a lot of boats, I admit we didn't look at the ones with towers because of the chance of stress cracking, we did look at one boat that had a Bimini top on it and it had stress cracks around every where it was mounted and I have seen stress cracks on the tops of boats that never had towers installed, the boat we ended up purchasing never had a tower or Bimini top on it and I did notice it had one stress crack up by the windshield.

ahhudgins
08-10-2017, 04:56 PM
The way I understand it is that he wants to build a huge tower that also functions as a bimini (note the red lines). You get full shade and can still use the pylon, but I don't think that 7/8 tubing is going to cut the mustard for a tower structure. How would you fold it???:rolleyes: