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gr8smiles
06-09-2005, 08:22 PM
I am about to pull the trigger on an 05 X-Star. :dance: I have a 2000 X-Star and will trade it on the new one. I have about 375 hours on mine and it has the LTR engine..330 hp. Perfect pass, single axle trailer, kgb system (1 sack) and is in great shape except that the seams have pulled on the sundeck and that needs recovering.

I am looking at two new boats. One is orange and is tricked out with a bunch of the Mastercraft by Design stuff. It retails for 89k, he has it marked at 81k, says he will let it go for 75k, giving me 27k for my boat.

The other one is blue and has most options. It retails for 80k, he has it marked for 74k, and says that he will let it go for around 69 or so, still giving me 27k for mine. Both boats have the MCX motor. 4 Tower speakers, ladder, the cheaper one has the 'slime' sprayer. Both have heaters, PPass, etc.

Do these prices sound right? Am I getting hosed? Any help would be appreciated. I really would rather trade than fool with trying to sell mine. I am in Tn. and we have a 10% sales tax, so that offsets some of trying to sell it myself.

I do like the Orange one....as does my wife and kids, but I feel that I am paying about 5-6k for 'bling'....although that would look way bad at night with all that LED lighting.

My main reasons for upgrading are to get more room. I have looked at the X30 and the Nautique 226, but I think that I am an X-Star man at heart.

Also, my daughter and I slalom a lot.( not on a course) Will the wakes be ok for us?

Rick

WakePowell
06-09-2005, 09:44 PM
Those prices seem very fair. You will definitely like the new boat.

Tom023
06-09-2005, 09:51 PM
I would do some comparison shopping. I just checked out a 2006 X30 with MCX and many options and the dealer quoted $65K list, so I am thinking they would come off of that some. I don't know how much more an X Star, if any, would be MSRP.

Here is a starting point:

http://www.wakeworld.com/boats/getboat6.asp?ProductID=200075

SKI*MC
06-09-2005, 09:59 PM
Slaloming behind an X-STAR will be a trick! With high biggest wakes on the market, you will having a tougher time behind an X-STAR. Although if you wakeboard, GET IT!! it sounds like a sweet ride!

zberger
06-09-2005, 11:03 PM
I am about to pull the trigger on an 05 X-Star. :dance: I have a 2000 X-Star and will trade it on the new one. I have about 375 hours on mine and it has the LTR engine..330 hp. Perfect pass, single axle trailer, kgb system (1 sack) and is in great shape except that the seams have pulled on the sundeck and that needs recovering.

I am looking at two new boats. One is orange and is tricked out with a bunch of the Mastercraft by Design stuff. It retails for 89k, he has it marked at 81k, says he will let it go for 75k, giving me 27k for my boat.

The other one is blue and has most options. It retails for 80k, he has it marked for 74k, and says that he will let it go for around 69 or so, still giving me 27k for mine. Both boats have the MCX motor. 4 Tower speakers, ladder, the cheaper one has the 'slime' sprayer. Both have heaters, PPass, etc.

Do these prices sound right? Am I getting hosed? Any help would be appreciated. I really would rather trade than fool with trying to sell mine. I am in Tn. and we have a 10% sales tax, so that offsets some of trying to sell it myself.

I do like the Orange one....as does my wife and kids, but I feel that I am paying about 5-6k for 'bling'....although that would look way bad at night with all that LED lighting.

My main reasons for upgrading are to get more room. I have looked at the X30 and the Nautique 226, but I think that I am an X-Star man at heart.

Also, my daughter and I slalom a lot.( not on a course) Will the wakes be ok for us?

Rick

you might be better off with a different boat.. if you slalom

rodltg2
06-09-2005, 11:05 PM
buy two 197's

LakePirate
06-09-2005, 11:15 PM
PM me with the dealer you are using. I know of one in the area that has always been fair with us.

Don't want to get in trouble with TTAdmin. :D

parrish1
06-10-2005, 08:04 AM
I recently purchased an 05 x-star. I spent many hours researching pricing across the country and talked to numerous dealers. My conclusions are that you happen to be interested in Mcrafts hottest seller so you are at a disadvantage--dealers know they will sell these boats pretty soon, unless the boat has an unusual color scheme that doesnt appeal to the average person. I think most dealers will tell you that they have not let the new x-star go for less than 15-18% off MSRP. I am sure that some have but maybe on leftover 04 or demo boats with some hours on them. Remember, I believe color is key to resale value, what will orange look like in a few years? Certainly looks great now but you havent seen an orange boat in while so it has interest. Will it look the same to a potential buyer in few years if you try to sell?? The x-star sells itself though. By the way, I too am in Tennessee. I am a dentist in Memphis, you dont happen to reconstruct smiles also do you? Just wondering b/c of your TT name.
I would be glad to share my buying experience with you. Email me at parrishdds@msn.com Good luck, Mike Parrish
p.s. If your wife likes the orange and she wants it by all means get it!!!!!

jkski
06-10-2005, 08:12 AM
When the new x-Star was introduced, I took a slalom run behind it for the local dealer, and ran through every available line length, but could not find one that wouldn't launch me into orbit. The shape of the wake at slalom speeds is one large rounded hump. If you are just out for a leisurely ride it's not bad, it would be like skiing behind a 23 ft. I/O, but if you want to cut, no matter how much you stay on edge, be ready for launch!

east tx skier
06-10-2005, 11:44 AM
Slaloming behind an X-STAR will be a trick! With high biggest wakes on the market, you will having a tougher time behind an X-STAR. Although if you wakeboard, GET IT!! it sounds like a sweet ride!

As I'm sure you realize, the new Xstar has a different hull from your 205V-style 2000 Xstar. You're probably going to have better slalom wakes behind your current boat than behind the new one. Have you looked at the X2 (think that's the same hull as you have now).

prostar205
06-10-2005, 12:05 PM
I would agree 100% with Parrish1 regarding color. Orange is great in TENN because of the University of Tenn. However, try to sell that boat up here is Washington state where purple is a great color and you'll not find many takers would be my guess. I had a purple '95 PS205 and it sold in two day by word of mouth. I never even advertised it. I don't think that would have happened in TENN. I think it is best to stick with standard colors; red, black, blue, and the primary metal flaked boats are great also. I say that because I have a red metal flaked X30. That thing looks great in the sun.

Good luck. I'm sure which ever boat you decide on it will be great.

east tx skier
06-10-2005, 12:25 PM
I've not owned a metalflake boat, and not to say they don't look really cool (they do), but before you buy a metal flake boat, make sure you first speak with someone who has had to have one repaired.

east tx skier
06-10-2005, 12:27 PM
I recently purchased an 05 x-star. I spent many hours researching pricing across the country and talked to numerous dealers. My conclusions are that you happen to be interested in Mcrafts hottest seller so you are at a disadvantage--dealers know they will sell these boats pretty soon, unless the boat has an unusual color scheme that doesnt appeal to the average person. I think most dealers will tell you that they have not let the new x-star go for less than 15-18% off MSRP. I am sure that some have but maybe on leftover 04 or demo boats with some hours on them. Remember, I believe color is key to resale value, what will orange look like in a few years? Certainly looks great now but you havent seen an orange boat in while so it has interest. Will it look the same to a potential buyer in few years if you try to sell?? The x-star sells itself though. By the way, I too am in Tennessee. I am a dentist in Memphis, you dont happen to reconstruct smiles also do you? Just wondering b/c of your TT name.
I would be glad to share my buying experience with you. Email me at parrishdds@msn.com Good luck, Mike Parrish
p.s. If your wife likes the orange and she wants it by all means get it!!!!!

Welcome, Mike. And happy birthday!

prostar205
06-10-2005, 12:30 PM
East Tx Skier -

As a person who has a metal flake boat, I would completely agree. As far as I am concerned, they are NOT repairable - that is a down side. You will also be able to see any type of a repair in the gel coat. I have also been told you also have to keep alot of wax on them to reflect the sun's rays. Otherwise, the get coat heats up and will cloud up and look oxidized.

Metal Flake gel coat was not my first choice for our boat. It does look great and the deal we got on the boat was unbelieveable.

east tx skier
06-10-2005, 12:50 PM
I was just echoing what George once said. To paraphrase. "Owned one. It was great. It was beautiful. I loved it. Not going metalflake for my next one."

I think it can be repaired pretty well (not sure about perfect). But the repair person shops are a little more limited and it's going to cost a lot more.

wakinvol
06-10-2005, 01:40 PM
.....Go Vols, get the orange one if you can swing it. my 2cents

east tx skier
06-10-2005, 02:48 PM
I like the orange ones, too.

Went to the other UT, you know, the one that won the Rose Bowl last year.

Diesel
06-10-2005, 02:53 PM
I was just echoing what George once said. To paraphrase. "Owned one. It was great. It was beautiful. I loved it. Not going metalflake for my next one."

I think it can be repaired pretty well (not sure about perfect). But the repair person shops are a little more limited and it's going to cost a lot more.

I have been told to get a surplus can of Metal Flake from the factory for future repairs. Ask me in 10 years and I willl tell you what I think about the flake................

east tx skier
06-10-2005, 02:58 PM
Probably not a bad idea given the current trend of discontinuing skins for older boats. Who's to say it wouldn't happen with gel coat. MC's proud of their cans of gel coat. Fortunately for me, my repair was white and on the underside of the hull. Just got my glass guy to match it as best he could. I challenge anyone to find the repair. Dude was an ar-teast. Sincerely doubt you could mix and match on metalflake.

Diesel
06-10-2005, 03:02 PM
Probably not a bad idea given the current trend of discontinuing skins for older boats. Who's to say it wouldn't happen with gel coat. MC's proud of their cans of gel coat. Fortunately for me, my repair was white and on the underside of the hull. Just got my glass guy to match it as best he could. I challenge anyone to find the repair. Dude was an ar-teast. Sincerely doubt you could mix and match on metalflake.

I am having a hard time getting MC to sell me a can of flake for my own boat. Evidenty they are fairly protective of the gel as well. In fact they would not even send my dealer a color chip (hole saw cut out) from my boat so we could match up the paint on the trailer. We asked multiple times and they said no :confused: That's the reason I have a black trailer......................

east tx skier
06-10-2005, 03:05 PM
The glass guy we use just called them up and ordered some of the Blue for my father-in-law's boat for a touch up. If I remember, it was something like $150 for a can or somewhere in that range. Granted, it wasn't metal flake.

zberger
06-10-2005, 03:25 PM
i always told myself i wanted a red metal flake prostar 205v..

this thread has me thinking twice.. :(

bcampbe7
06-10-2005, 03:34 PM
Whatever boat you do go with, I would be glad to wakeboard behind it and tell you how the color and bling appear from a 70' rope off the tower! :D
If your location is where I think it is, you are not too far from me.
What lake do you ride on?


I am about to pull the trigger on an 05 X-Star. :dance: I have a 2000 X-Star and will trade it on the new one. I have about 375 hours on mine and it has the LTR engine..330 hp. Perfect pass, single axle trailer, kgb system (1 sack) and is in great shape except that the seams have pulled on the sundeck and that needs recovering.

I am looking at two new boats. One is orange and is tricked out with a bunch of the Mastercraft by Design stuff. It retails for 89k, he has it marked at 81k, says he will let it go for 75k, giving me 27k for my boat.

The other one is blue and has most options. It retails for 80k, he has it marked for 74k, and says that he will let it go for around 69 or so, still giving me 27k for mine. Both boats have the MCX motor. 4 Tower speakers, ladder, the cheaper one has the 'slime' sprayer. Both have heaters, PPass, etc.

Do these prices sound right? Am I getting hosed? Any help would be appreciated. I really would rather trade than fool with trying to sell mine. I am in Tn. and we have a 10% sales tax, so that offsets some of trying to sell it myself.

I do like the Orange one....as does my wife and kids, but I feel that I am paying about 5-6k for 'bling'....although that would look way bad at night with all that LED lighting.

My main reasons for upgrading are to get more room. I have looked at the X30 and the Nautique 226, but I think that I am an X-Star man at heart.

Also, my daughter and I slalom a lot.( not on a course) Will the wakes be ok for us?

Rick

erkoehler
06-10-2005, 03:34 PM
Nothing like trying to get a pull before the guy even buys the boat! :D

bcampbe7
06-10-2005, 03:35 PM
Worth a try, eh?
Nothing like trying to get a pull before the guy even buys the boat! :D

Diesel
06-10-2005, 04:07 PM
i always told myself i wanted a red metal flake prostar 205v..

this thread has me thinking twice.. :(

After 10 years my 205 had one very small nick in the colored gel coat. The other two dings were in the deck (white). I am hoping this will be the case with my new boat. I think if you are very careful and pay extra attention you should be fine.......... You have to work fairly hard or just not care to scratch the main section of the boat.

I have seen two red flake boats in person and they are incredible!

zberger
06-10-2005, 06:29 PM
After 10 years my 205 had one very small nick in the colored gel coat. The other two dings were in the deck (white). I am hoping this will be the case with my new boat. I think if you are very careful and pay extra attention you should be fine.......... You have to work fairly hard or just not care to scratch the main section of the boat.

I have seen two red flake boats in person and they are incredible!

this one is on my dual monitors at work right now..

http://www.woodclifflakelife.com/Pics/Water/Memorial/IMG_6586_thumb.jpg

prostar205
06-10-2005, 07:41 PM
Dude, you stole my boat - just kidding.

Very nice ride!!! I have the same boat but add 2 feet - 2002 X30, red metal flake with the 2005 Tower and 4 tower speakers. I see you also have the red metal flake swim step which is what I have. The engine in mine is the 8.1L gas hog. How about you??

I need the weather to get better up here in Seattle so I can get some water shots.

gr8smiles
06-10-2005, 08:54 PM
Trigger pulled.... :woohoo: I drove to the lake with ....yes..the orange one....wife and kids are thrilled....may have to drive it to a UT game now....felt pretty good about my deal...kaching....what a wake...easily clearing 4-5 feet in the air going wake to wake...and I am a 195 42 yo....my 16 yo son now needs a pilot license...and my daughter christened it with her slalom run....wife loves the bow and the bow ladder and her cooler...she has officially made her nest....I love the sound...the room...the storage....the throttle...the perfect pass....should I keep going..what a ride....can't wait til dark to check oput ALL the led lights....the sound system is incredible....even got a new Byerly 142 board in the deal....thanks for the advice

Rick
Grinning and glad that he is a Vol and now has the boat to prove it!!! :D

bcampbe7
06-10-2005, 09:47 PM
Awesome Rick! That sounds like a great ride. I'm sure you and the family will enjoy it.

peason
06-10-2005, 11:23 PM
Pictures from all angles and at night! let see you get launched off the wake!
Sounds like fun!