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tobaccoman2
11-04-2009, 02:55 PM
Has anyone seen the new X25? Caught a ride in one at FANFARE. It was not completely finished but has alot of room and some very nice features. I think this boat might outsell the X2 .

ttu
11-04-2009, 03:08 PM
did you not get picture to post for us?

jaysus
11-04-2009, 03:17 PM
Sick boat, and I agree that it may outsell the X2.

duckguy
11-04-2009, 03:42 PM
Huh, I wana see it

TallRedRider
11-04-2009, 03:42 PM
What was the sticker price on the X-35?

I would venture that the X2 will be more popular since being a smaller boat, it can be sold for less.

I suspect the hull has not changed since the 08 that I test drove, and it is a great hull.

wpstevenson
11-04-2009, 03:45 PM
what is it? 22.5 ft vdrive? pickle fork? Seating?

Jim@BAWS
11-04-2009, 03:50 PM
Has anyone seen the new X25? Caught a ride in one at FANFARE. It was not completely finished but has alot of room and some very nice features. I think this boat might outsell the X2 .


A picture is worth 1000 words


Jim@BAWS

ttu
11-04-2009, 03:56 PM
A picture is worth 1000 words


Jim@BAWS

jim, we would think that you would be able to provide us with one!:D

jaysus
11-04-2009, 04:07 PM
the way it looks is a csx 220 hull (great wakeboard & surf boat), bow seating like the 235 w/armrests, close to a 255 cockpit and a redesigned transom that will be rider friendly to say the least. One of the customers we brought to fanfare in Oct had his X2 designed and ready to go, after he saw the drawings and the 1st deck of the X-25 the X2 was out. 2 X-25's were sold that day.

MYMC
11-04-2009, 04:55 PM
Use your best Doctor Evil voice for this one...

ttu
11-04-2009, 04:57 PM
come on mike, post the pic!!:rolleyes:

kbob
11-04-2009, 04:57 PM
Is this it?

Sodar
11-04-2009, 04:57 PM
So is the X-2 going... BU-BYE?

MYMC
11-04-2009, 05:13 PM
come on mike, post the pic!!:rolleyes:
no need to already done...it is a CSX220 with a conventional (albeit pickle fork deck)

So is the X-2 going... BU-BYE?
Lord no...we just needed another boat between 22 and 23 feet:rolleyes:

ttu
11-04-2009, 05:17 PM
[

Lord no...we just needed another boat between 22 and 23 feet:rolleyes:[/QUOTE]

thanks mike. i spit my water all over my moniter!:uglyhamme

MYMC
11-04-2009, 05:20 PM
[

Lord no...we just needed another boat between 22 and 23 feet:rolleyes:

thanks mike. i spit my water all over my moniter!:uglyhamme[/QUOTE]
That's funny...so did I when I found out we were building it!;)

Sodar
11-04-2009, 05:26 PM
How many different hull models does this bring us up to? (ie. PS197/X-7, MS200/X-2, etc.)

MYMC
11-04-2009, 05:31 PM
How many different hull models does this bring us up to? (ie. PS197/X-7, MS200/X-2, etc.)
Lemme see....
190, 197/X7, 214/X14, 214V/X14V, X1, 200/X2, 215/X15, X-Star, 225/X25, 230/X30, 235/X35, 245/X45, 255/X55, 280/X80, CSX220, CSX265 & 300.

I count 17 different hull/deck configurations...with 8 of them falling between 21 feet and 24 feet...talk about selection!:D

bcampbe7
11-04-2009, 05:34 PM
Lemme see....
190, 197/X7, 214/X14, 214V/X14V, X1, 200/X2, 215/X15, X-Star, 225/X25, 230/X30, 235/X35, 245/X45, 255/X55, 280/X80, CSX220, CSX265 & 300.

I count 17 different hull/deck configurations...with 8 of them falling between 21 feet and 24 feet...talk about selection!:D

Now, what is the percentage sold breakout? :)

MYMC
11-04-2009, 05:35 PM
Now, what is the percentage sold breakout? :)
The 200/X2 dominates the sales numbers.

Sodar
11-04-2009, 05:37 PM
Mike,

What do you think is the most "under-valued" of the line up? Is there a boat that does not get the recognition it should?

ttu
11-04-2009, 05:38 PM
Mike,

What do you think is the most "under-valued" of the line up? Is there a boat that does not get the recognition it should?

my bet it's the x15.

Sodar
11-04-2009, 05:46 PM
Never been in an X-15... they look like a nice boat, though.

MYMC
11-04-2009, 06:03 PM
Mike,

What do you think is the most "under-valued" of the line up? Is there a boat that does not get the recognition it should?
Absolutely...
#1: 255/X5
The economy and slumping boat sales hurt this boat before it got a chance to shine. This is the boat that makes you ask why anyone would buy a run-a-bout. Tons of room, great features, all the benefits of an inboard...plus the best surf and wakeboard wake going. MC has done well with the 245/X45...this does everything that those do only better, from ride in rough water to hanging at the sand bar I find it difficult to fault the boat. BTW, this is the only boat that has stayed with Maeghan and I for two consecutive model years and that should tell you something.

#3: 214/X14
Before it had a chance to show really what it could do the 214V/X14V came along and stole the show. Yes it has odd ball seating, but once you "live" with the boat you never really notice it. Biggest challenge is getting people in and out without walking on your upholstery.

When you combine the uncertain future of boat sales and the success of the of the 214V/X14V it is hard to imagine the business case for keeping this model around...too bad.

my bet it's the x15.
#2. 215/X15
The SUV of the MC line, this boat does so many things...and does them well. The wake is fine for recreational skiing, the wakeboard wake is very very nice and the boat ranks in the top 3 for surfing out of our line-up. Not too mention the boat performs with an MCX as if equipped with a LY6...and that is almost required in the next hull size up! Ample room and decent rough water ride round out the package.
FWIW, this boat has NEVER been featured in any advertising for MC...all sales are customer/dealer driven. Biggest hit? The boat has a pointy bow.

Disclaimer: these are my opinions and although absolutely dead on correct and above reproach do not reflect the views of MasterCraft Boat Company.:)

duckguy
11-04-2009, 06:06 PM
So lets see a pic of this thing

captain planet
11-04-2009, 06:11 PM
So lets see a pic of this thing

I have about 15 pictures of it on my computer, however I haven't been cleared to post them yet. Sorry. :o

I'll make a phone call.

MYMC
11-04-2009, 06:14 PM
So lets see a pic of this thing

Just noticed link that was posted was removed...its out there in cyberspace though.

duckguy
11-04-2009, 06:17 PM
So it should be on wakeworld soon

smsbrett
11-04-2009, 06:21 PM
okay, so the pics are being suppressed, but what about specs? how long is this thing? is it really gonna be an alternative to an x-2 or much bigger? that link which had been posted stated 20'9'', but the CSX 220 is supposedly 21'5'' right? is this basically just an x-15 but picklefork?

mpabreo
11-04-2009, 06:24 PM
Since we're sharing opinions...

I looked hard at the X-55, especially when I went thru the trials that I did when purchasing my current X-45. The 45 was my choice boat, based on many reasons, some custom to my preferences and intentions, others due to the boat as compared to the 35 and 55. I actaully went into looking for an MC with the idea I was going to get the X-80, biggest, most roomy, etc. I soon found out the X-80 was just unpractical. So that left the 55 vs the 45.

The single thing that shunned me from the 55 was SPACE. It has no more than the x-45, in fact the layout of the 45 is more practical and better utilizes the available space. Evident by the capacity rating (equal between the two). Unless you're doing more runabout type outings than surfing/boarding, I wouldnt recommend it. Even then, the wet bar, sink, fridge, potty, were are practically useless in my opinion. Also, the flip-able observer seat takes away from the storage capacity in that area. The curved rear cushions took away a few inches of space, and armrests, IMO looked fugly. And came across as a poor attempt for MC to build a runabout. Just as did the deeper hull to accomodate rough waters.

I do not doubt that the wake on that thing is sick, but I just found the interior layout and design to be lacking.

MYMC
11-04-2009, 06:28 PM
okay, so the pics are being suppressed, but what about specs? how long is this thing? is it really gonna be an alternative to an x-2 or much bigger? that link which had been posted stated 20'9'', but the CSX 220 is supposedly 21'5'' right? is this basically just an x-15 but picklefork?
This is not a 215/X15...the bottom is a CSX220. Remember you are reading "advertised" length.

smsbrett
11-04-2009, 06:37 PM
i guess i'm not familiar with your distinction on "advertised" length. i know the platform ads, but the boats aren't really what they say? the csx220 says 21'5''. what is it really?

MYMC
11-04-2009, 06:48 PM
i guess i'm not familiar with your distinction on "advertised" length. i know the platform ads, but the boats aren't really what they say? the csx220 says 21'5''. what is it really?
I don't have a CSX220 here to measure or I would.

Advertised length is like advertised beam and will be the largest number a manufacture can come up with. Also remember these two units are not sharing anything but the running surface.

LOA = Length overall. The total length of a boat including bowsprits or other items projecting from the bow or the stern of the boat.
LOD = Length on Deck. is the true length, omitting rail overhangs, and is the honest way to describe the length of a boat.

Sodar
11-04-2009, 06:54 PM
Absolutely...
#1: 255/X5
The economy and slumping boat sales hurt this boat before it got a chance to shine. This is the boat that makes you ask why anyone would buy a run-a-bout. Tons of room, great features, all the benefits of an inboard...plus the best surf and wakeboard wake going. MC has done well with the 245/X45...this does everything that those do only better, from ride in rough water to hanging at the sand bar I find it difficult to fault the boat. BTW, this is the only boat that has stayed with Maeghan and I for two consecutive model years and that should tell you something.

#3: 214/X14
Before it had a chance to show really what it could do the 214V/X14V came along and stole the show. Yes it has odd ball seating, but once you "live" with the boat you never really notice it. Biggest challenge is getting people in and out without walking on your upholstery.

When you combine the uncertain future of boat sales and the success of the of the 214V/X14V it is hard to imagine the business case for keeping this model around...too bad.


#2. 215/X15
The SUV of the MC line, this boat does so many things...and does them well. The wake is fine for recreational skiing, the wakeboard wake is very very nice and the boat ranks in the top 3 for surfing out of our line-up. Not too mention the boat performs with an MCX as if equipped with a LY6...and that is almost required in the next hull size up! Ample room and decent rough water ride round out the package.
FWIW, this boat has NEVER been featured in any advertising for MC...all sales are customer/dealer driven. Biggest hit? The boat has a pointy bow.

Disclaimer: these are my opinions and although absolutely dead on correct and above reproach do not reflect the views of MasterCraft Boat Company.:)


Cool, Mike! I still say that I would be in a X14/214 if it were a traditional inboard layout. Too bad, so sad about it's future.

ttu
11-04-2009, 07:03 PM
mike, my reference point about bringing up the x15, is i think it is probably the most under valued boat in the x series. it is a great all around boat but so many people like the looks of the picklefork bow vs the traditional bow.

Witness140
11-04-2009, 09:11 PM
Here's a link for those who are fast enough to click on it for pics.

http://www.en.best-boats24.net/haendler/scs/boote/Mastercraftx25.html#anfang

Was super hard to find. I googled "Mastercraft X25"

I like the bow ladder. Wish I had one in my X2. A lot of people comment on how nice it would be 'if your boat had a bow ladder like that bigger MC"

I like the armrests in the bow, at least in the pic. Be interested to see how they feel in real life.

I love how that center bow cushion flips over to produce a nice path to get in and out over.

I can't really see the sunpad, but looks like they made attempts to make getting in and out easier on the upholstery there as well. I like the rear wraparound. Like the big port side compartment with the gas strut seat top - a la X14V.

The observer seat looks narrow. The rear deck loses that big flat area to lay out on - unless there is a center upholstery strip like in the 14V.

Wonder how the wake is.

Sodar
11-04-2009, 09:20 PM
Let me assist.

52938

52937

52935

52936

52939

Witness140
11-04-2009, 09:22 PM
Thanks man, I got lazy.

I just noticed the cupholder on top of the observer seat. Good idea. I think I'm liking how they split the observer seat from the X2. Now you don't have to lift the huge observer seat. The bench is longer to compensate. Wonder where the batteries are. Would be great if they got them out of that area under the observer seat. Then that entire length could be used, and you could get in and out of there easier. And, it would now be easier to leave them open to air them out under the cover.

Sodar
11-04-2009, 09:24 PM
No worries!

52941

52942

52940

duckguy
11-04-2009, 09:51 PM
Shes a little x35. Big Fan!

Sodar
11-05-2009, 12:30 AM
Shes a little x35. Big Fan!

I agree! Very cool boat!

vandit0022
11-05-2009, 01:13 AM
If you google it one pops up in Germany. Not sure if it's really an X-25 but I'm obviously no expert. Looks like a short X-55 just based off the upholstry layout. I'll leave the link out for not getting in trouble I guess.


**Wow between the time I read this thread and googled it.......someone already posted the link**

scott023
11-05-2009, 10:31 AM
Some great ideas in the works there... on the same note, seems like an odd time to be introducing another new boat. Are sales in the US picking up now, enough to warrant another model?

Prostar19
11-05-2009, 10:50 AM
I would think in a down economy you would wnat to give the people a reason to buy. Why would they buy the same old stuff if money is tight? IMO I think you have a better chance selling a new product than an old one.

sand2snow22
11-05-2009, 11:00 AM
I agree! Very cool boat!

I will have to go through it before judging. What's up with one sunpad longer than the other?

jdl xstar
11-05-2009, 11:11 AM
Whats the oval thing that guy is holding?

Sodar
11-05-2009, 11:13 AM
Whats the oval thing that guy is holding?

I think he is showing where they plan to mount the cockpit table.

Sodar
11-05-2009, 11:16 AM
I will have to go through it before judging. What's up with one sunpad longer than the other?

I think the boat is still in a prototype stage. If I had to guess, I would guess that both sides will be similar to the port side sunpad. ;)

Witness140
11-05-2009, 11:54 AM
I think the boat is still in a prototype stage. If I had to guess, I would guess that both sides will be similar to the port side sunpad. ;)

My take on the sunpad was that a portion of the pad is removable or hinged. You can have a complete sunpad or, you can have areas setup for traffic, sitting, etc. Looked to me like one side was setup extended and one was not.

Two groups of folks out there - the group that likes to have a flat sunpad to lay across, the other group wants good access in and out of boat. Perhaps they are trying to satisfy all of us with a multiple configuration sunpad. I hope so.

Also - you can see the table mount is in the center of rear seat support. Big silver thing.

bcampbe7
11-05-2009, 12:18 PM
Check out the armrest for the bow seats. Nice touch, is that also on the X-35, 55, 45?

ORX-1
11-05-2009, 12:25 PM
How long is the x25?

Prostar19
11-05-2009, 12:28 PM
Seems to be the same as the CSX 220 21'5"

bobx1
11-05-2009, 12:41 PM
I think I like this boat ALOT.

Now on to a slight thread jack.

My props to Mastercraft for continuing to innovate and assume some of these designs were in the works before the economy went in the crapper.

With that being said, it makes me wonder why MC thinks they can be profitable with so many offereings.

They wanted to have the best ski boat - mission accomplished
They wanted to have the best wakeboard boat - mission accomplished

Then they introduce crossover boats.
Then they introduce the CSX boats.
Then they introduce the 300.

I guess I question if they really want to compete with Cobalt and Grady White and Malibu and SeaRay. The aforementioned companies do a couple of things very well and are not all things to all people.

Maybe the x25 is ultimately going to replace the x2. After seeing this boat, I can see me looking hard at the x25 and not the x2.

davomaddo
11-05-2009, 03:34 PM
I like that boat.
I am not a big fan of the back seat - how it bumps out.
Natique does that also.
Personal preferrence. I was youngest of three and always had to ride in the middle seat with the hump in the car. This set up in a boat equivielant to the "hump" or sitting "b**ch".

kbob
11-05-2009, 03:57 PM
^^^"Back Seat! In the middle! With my feet on the hump! I called it!" - Brian Regan...anyone??...HAHA!...classic!

jdl xstar
11-05-2009, 04:22 PM
Maybe the x25 is ultimately going to replace the x2. After seeing this boat, I can see me looking hard at the x25 and not the x2.

I highly doubt it. Being 2 feet longer than the X2 is a big difference and I don't see the X25 as the boat to squeeze out the X2. The X2 is the top selling boat in the MC line up so it doesn't make sense to try to replace that. If anything, the X15 is the one that may be bumped. This is similar in size but has a pickle fork.

JohnE
11-05-2009, 04:27 PM
I highly doubt it. Being 2 feet longer than the X2 is a big difference and I don't see the X25 as the boat to squeeze out the X2. The X2 is the top selling boat in the MC line up so it doesn't make sense to try to replace that. If anything, the X15 is the one that may be bumped. This is similar in size but has a pickle fork.

Agreed, nothing is going to bump their best selling boat.

Some question why they would introduce this boat in this economy. Maybe it will become their #2 seller and bump some that don't sell as well. Like the 15 as you pointed out.

That hull is money.

Prostar19
11-05-2009, 04:51 PM
My guess is they have had people that like the X2 but feel its too small and like the room of the X15 but like the twin tip style. I do not think it will replace either the 2 or 15 rather give people a choice. If you want a bigger twin tip you have to jump to the X-Star which does not have much interior room, a X35 or X45 and all three of these boats are a big price jump over the 2 or 15.

bobx1
11-05-2009, 05:28 PM
.... Being 2 feet longer than the X2 is a big difference and I don't see the X25 as the boat to squeeze out the X2....

My bad...did not pickup on the length (thought it was same or within a foot of X2.

Of the 20+ hull offerings, we usually only see the 197, X1, X2, X Star, X45 (where we live). And of those, the X1, X2 and X45 are the most popular.

corey
11-05-2009, 07:13 PM
Me likey!!!

I see this boat more as competition for the X-Star than the X-2 just based on the overall size. It'll be interesting to see all three side by side by side.

duckguy
11-05-2009, 07:22 PM
I see it like this, as I WILL be making this my next boat

My x-star- sweet looking, amazing wakeboard wake, sub par surf wake, not very roomy cabin and a very "dunky" bow albeit very roomy.

X2- To small a cabin and not the greatest wakeboard wake, especially coming from a star.

X-15- was to be my next boat but I really do like the pickle fork

All this = X25 Room, Great surf and board wake, nice ride etc etc!

Chicago190
11-05-2009, 07:44 PM
What happens if the X25s wake is close to the X-Star? Does that mean you buy an X-Star for the name only?

duckguy
11-05-2009, 07:50 PM
Good question, I would say to a point yes.

jdl xstar
11-05-2009, 09:10 PM
I agree with duck that the X15 would've been my pick if it had a pickle fork. I don't see why MC didn't just turn the X15 into a pickle fork and call it a day instead of adding a whole new model.

Upon closer look at the pics of the X25, the cockpit area doesn't look all that big. Perhaps comparable to an X2 or star.... ?

I bet some MC employee is reading all our posts and laughing at our theories on the size of this thing!

sand2snow22
11-05-2009, 09:39 PM
All this = X25 Room, Great surf and board wake, nice ride etc etc!

Wow, you know that already. The boat isn't out, yet?

Chicago190
11-05-2009, 10:45 PM
Wow, you know that already. The boat isn't out, yet?

It sounds like it is the CSX hull with a different deck, so the wake should be pretty similar.

ski_king
11-05-2009, 11:08 PM
It sounds like it is the CSX hull with a different deck, so the wake should be pretty similar.

and the moved the engine from the middle (direct drive) to the back (v drive)......

cdawake
11-05-2009, 11:23 PM
Since MC recently introduced the x55 and x35, what was next? the x25. It seems likely that it will replace the x15 as they are the same length and will (probably?) have similar performance characteristics. But I could also see MC keeping the x15 for those who don't like the pickefork design. If the model proves successful, I could see it as overtaking the x2 in terms of popularity- the 1-2 feet extra makes a huge difference!

Its exciting to see MasterCraft is still innovating and building new models, unlike its competitors like Malibu who haven't introduced a new model in quite some time, or done any major redesigns since 2006.

sand2snow22
11-06-2009, 12:18 AM
.......unlike its competitors like Malibu who haven't introduced a new model in quite some time, or done any major redesigns since 2006.

Come on, guy........You've been drinking too much of the MC INW coolaid. VTX, new model in 2007. Redesign of the VLX in 2009. Redesign of the LSV 2008..............Maliview in 2008 and dontcha know all the BU owners are stating MC copied them with the BIG in 2010, ....Remember, competition is supposed to keep prices lower :D

cdawake
11-06-2009, 01:07 AM
Ive been in a buddy's '06 21LSV, and another's '08 VLX (missed the newest design i guess), along with walking through hagadone's Bu dealership on blackwell- they did make minor changes to the chines in their hulls, along with some interior makeover business, so that counts as redesign
but if the VTX was their new model, MC has the 214/x14, 235/ms235, 255/x55, and now the x25. thats a hell of a lot more new models than malibu.
and everyone has been adding their own BIG sort of systems into their boats, its just ironic that both companies systems are made by medallion. tige has their own system too and there might be others. alright, i was wrong, but its fair to say that more new stuff has been going on at mc. i was kind of talking out my a$$ :rolleyes:

FancySauceRules
11-06-2009, 11:32 AM
My call is that this IS the X-Star, not competition for X-2 or X15. I have heard for a long time that the new X-Star will be based on the CSX 220 hull. You notice that there are no X-25 decals on the boat. They probably aren't branding it the X-Star until they get further along in development. If it isn't the X-Star, shouldn't it be named the X-22 since its based on the CSX 220?

MYMC
11-06-2009, 11:43 AM
If you ever rode behind or surfed the CSX220 you would understand why this was built...the CSX220 has a great wake but the configuration was not conducive to family recreation.

The X2 is going nowhere, it is our number one seller and is the only v-drive that I know of that can go onto lakes with a length restriction...that is why it was built at 20' LOA.

The X15 is going nowhere either as a company we still have many buyers that are not fans of the pickle fork and rather than alienate them completely we have the X15.

X-Star in name only? Do you really believe we are not advancing the X-Star? The X25 is not a replacement or substitution for an X-Star...keep in mind the X-Star has been wakeboarders favorite boat since its release in 2003...the boat truly advanced the sport with the large rampy wake which was a huge departure from the "vert" wakes of the past. We are working on the next evolution, but this is not a task we as a company can take lightly. Arguably the X-Star is the "corporate identity" of MasterCraft...more so than the 190/197 and the next iteration has to be "right" the moment we put it out there. Its coming...but I cannot say when.

Chicago190
11-06-2009, 12:51 PM
X-Star in name only? Do you really believe we are not advancing the X-Star? The X25 is not a replacement or substitution for an X-Star...keep in mind the X-Star has been wakeboarders favorite boat since its release in 2003...the boat truly advanced the sport with the large rampy wake which was a huge departure from the "vert" wakes of the past. We are working on the next evolution, but this is not a task we as a company can take lightly. Arguably the X-Star is the "corporate identity" of MasterCraft...more so than the 190/197 and the next iteration has to be "right" the moment we put it out there. Its coming...but I cannot say when.

I don't think anyone questions whether or not the X-star is the flagship wakeboard towboat in the boat industry or that it has done more to advance the sport than any other boat. But, when MC produces a new boat with a great wakeboard wake, great surf wake, roomier interior, and roughly the same size as the X-star, it makes you wonder who is going to buy a 2010 X-star?

MYMC
11-06-2009, 01:01 PM
I don't think anyone questions whether or not the X-star is the flagship wakeboard towboat in the boat industry or that it has done more to advance the sport than any other boat. But, when MC produces a new boat with a great wakeboard wake, great surf wake, roomier interior, and roughly the same size as the X-star, it makes you wonder who is going to buy a 2010 X-star?
And that is a great question...and the answer remains to be seen.

Production will help to resolve this...MC is building a limited number of boats and the X25 will be more limited than any of them for 2010. Combine this with very few dealers having floor plans any longer which will foce stocking less boats.

In 2011 the new X-Star will start this over again...if it is ready by then.

sand2snow22
11-06-2009, 01:22 PM
I don't think anyone questions whether or not the X-star is the flagship wakeboard towboat in the boat industry or that it has done more to advance the sport than any other boat. But, when MC produces a new boat with a great wakeboard wake, great surf wake, roomier interior, and roughly the same size as the X-star, it makes you wonder who is going to buy a 2010 X-star?

People who want the name, the best wake and have fear of the unknown (X25) will buy the 2010 X-Star....

FancySauceRules
11-06-2009, 01:26 PM
People who want the name, the best wake and have fear of the unknown (X25) will buy the 2010 X-Star....

Name and brand recognition is definitely worth something when it comes time for resale.

Jesus_Freak
11-06-2009, 01:54 PM
...Disclaimer: these are my opinions and although absolutely dead on correct and above reproach do not reflect the views of MasterCraft Boat Company.:)...

Excellent quotation!

MYMC
11-06-2009, 02:03 PM
Excellent quotation!
Well, at least I got something right in this thread!

ski_king
11-06-2009, 02:07 PM
Disclaimer: these are my opinions and although absolutely dead on correct and above reproach do not reflect the views of MasterCraft Boat Company.:)

Sounds like something a lawyer would write.

JohnE
11-06-2009, 02:28 PM
I imagine the most serious wakeboarders will buy the X Star. I imagine the X25 will hit the mark for those who want an X Star but like to do the other things that the X Star does not do well.

tobaccoman2
11-06-2009, 03:15 PM
I actually rode in the X25. It did say X25 on the side and it is on the 220 hull. This boat is not going to replace the X Star. We loaded the ballast to surf and the wake looked very clean. It does have the surf tabs. The guy driving it was doing testing on different things. The back sun pad is made so that you can open either side or the whole back will open all together. The top of the sun pad did not have any vinyl on it but will be made so that if you are hanging out at the local sand bar the pad will flip up in the recessed areas and make a back rest so that you can sit facing the rear with your feet on the deck. I spent about 30 minutes in the boat and really liked it. They are only building around 70 this year because they only have one mold.

tobaccoman2
11-06-2009, 03:17 PM
One more thing this boat has a much better surf wake than the x star. The x star has that box on the back of the hull and wont let the boat roll over far enough. The x25 surf wake is very very nice .

Jim@BAWS
11-06-2009, 03:18 PM
My call is that this IS the X-Star, not competition for X-2 or X15. I have heard for a long time that the new X-Star will be based on the CSX 220 hull. You notice that there are no X-25 decals on the boat. They probably aren't branding it the X-Star until they get further along in development. If it isn't the X-Star, shouldn't it be named the X-22 since its based on the CSX 220?

RUMOR CONTROL You heard it hear first. At least I did

Jim@BAWS

Witness140
11-06-2009, 03:46 PM
Too bad I didn't get invited back to fanfare....maybe i'd have bought an X25. Maybe it's a good thing....

tobaccoman2
11-06-2009, 04:09 PM
They said anyone that ordered one at fanfare would not get it until late March because they had sold several already. They had no stock boats at the factory. I actually signed the papers to get the factory incentive but have not did the deal at the dealer on it yet.

JohnE
11-07-2009, 09:45 AM
Too bad I didn't get invited back to fanfare....maybe i'd have bought an X25. Maybe it's a good thing....


My dealer invited me again.8p

But looks like my chances of getting a '10 X14DD are not too good given the production numbers of them.

Hmmmm.....black and silverflake X25.....tempting.

MYMC
11-09-2009, 12:04 PM
My dealer invited me again.8p

But looks like my chances of getting a '10 X14DD are not too good given the production numbers of them.

Hmmmm.....black and silverflake X25.....tempting.
Now we're talking...and you could pick it up at CSM2010!:D

cbryan70
11-09-2009, 06:25 PM
My dealer invited me again.8p

But looks like my chances of getting a '10 X14DD are not too good given the production numbers of them.

Hmmmm.....black and silverflake X25.....tempting.

John.......dont you have to wait on payouts? :rolleyes: Any news on that situation?:cool:

JohnE
11-09-2009, 08:31 PM
Now we're talking...and you could pick it up at CSM2010!:D

Uh oh, I'm getting that itch again.....:D

JohnE
11-09-2009, 08:33 PM
John.......dont you have to wait on payouts? :rolleyes: Any news on that situation?:cool:

Yeah, the news is I'm screwed.....:D

I ought to check in with that BR attorney but am pretty much afraid of the answers.....

MariStar-Man
02-10-2010, 06:46 PM
X-Star in name only? Do you really believe we are not advancing the X-Star? The X25 is not a replacement or substitution for an X-Star...keep in mind the X-Star has been wakeboarders favorite boat since its release in 2003...the boat truly advanced the sport with the large rampy wake which was a huge departure from the "vert" wakes of the past. .


NYMC...Not seeing the wake of an X-Star how would you say it compares to a 1999 Maristar with the 330 LTR?

Would the Maristar have more of a "Vert" Wake or rampy wake?

I'm curious as My thinking is theat me next boat will be a Newer X-Star... :D

MYMC
02-10-2010, 06:55 PM
NYMC...Not seeing the wake of an X-Star how would you say it compares to a 1999 Maristar with the 330 LTR?

Would the Maristar have more of a "Vert" Wake or rampy wake?

I'm curious as My thinking is theat me next boat will be a Newer X-Star... :D
Which MariStar? The MS205V is the old X-Star in MS trim.

If it is a MS200, 210 or 230 it is a very rounded ramp I refer to as a turtle shell wake. By comparison the new(2003 and up) X-Star is a long rampy wake with a decent lip. It is much larger that the Maristar wake by any measurment. Great choice for next boat, they ride well, hold a ton of people and have been "the" wake for the last 7 years.

MariStar-Man
02-10-2010, 07:00 PM
I have this one:

1999 V210

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x203/DocHoliday1964/1999%20Maristar/Decals/DSC01544.jpg

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x203/DocHoliday1964/1999%20Maristar/On%20the%20water/DSC01222.jpg

MariStar-Man
02-10-2010, 07:01 PM
http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x203/DocHoliday1964/1999%20Maristar/On%20the%20water/DSC01224.jpg


http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x203/DocHoliday1964/1999%20Maristar/On%20the%20water/DSC01235.jpg

Eric2010MCX2
02-10-2010, 10:27 PM
The 2010 x25 will most likely replace the x30

MYMC
02-11-2010, 08:09 AM
http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x203/DocHoliday1964/1999%20Maristar/On%20the%20water/DSC01224.jpg


http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x203/DocHoliday1964/1999%20Maristar/On%20the%20water/DSC01235.jpg
Nice boat! The wake is not in the "X-Star" league...I think when you trade you'll be impressed.