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CMack225vrs
10-29-2009, 10:10 PM
I have a 1995 Maristar 225 VRS. I think the rope gasket is leaking and needs replaced. The boat shop I took it to for winterization quoted me $1,200 to replace it because they said that they had to pull the engine to replace it.

My BS meter went off. Is the design really this poor that you have to pull the engine in order to replace an item that wears out?

Has anyone else replaced this gasket on this or similar model V-drive, and if so, how much did it cost to replace? Any help is much appreciated.

Jim@BAWS
10-29-2009, 10:23 PM
$1200 to replace the packing???WOW Come to Tampa I'll give you a 50% discount then take the extra money and buy some real nice property in South Florida that never drains

$1200...give me a break

Jim@BAWS

TMCNo1
10-29-2009, 10:44 PM
Wow, if we had just a few more dealers like yours, they could bail out the government!

DIY and save about $1,190, http://mastercraft.com/teamtalk/showpost.php?p=159060&postcount=31 and http://www.mastercraft.com/teamtalk/showpost.php?p=503319&postcount=39

And, after you DIY and see how simple it is, I would be tempted to contact MC and let them know how your dealer tried to rip you off.

JohnE
10-30-2009, 01:11 AM
I'm assuming the boat shop wasn't a mc dealer......But as Harold and Jim both said, it's a cheap job to repack the stuffing box. (OK, I translated...)

FrankSchwab
10-30-2009, 01:22 AM
You probably don't even have to replace the packing - it may simply need to be adjusted. Now, admittedly, adjusting the packing on a V-Drive is 100 times harder than doing it on a direct drive, but it's still not much more than an hours job.

/frank

CMack225vrs
10-30-2009, 05:23 AM
Okay, so sounds like my BS detector is well calibrated. Perfect job for next spring anyway, as the snow from last weekend will be on the ground until May anyway.

Thanks for the tips.

Dawg
11-08-2009, 01:14 PM
CMack,
In the past I have always loosened and pulled the shaft back to be able to get the stuffing box out to get it on the bench to replace the rope. Not too bad of a job w/ the right tool. It has been easier for me to do the work. The other day a friend of mine replaced his by simply loosening the nut, separating the nut from the housing and did the work w/o any diffculty at all. I ask him how he liked standing on his head in the back of the boat for an hour. He said he did'nt mind it. Anyway would let MC know about this one if they are an MC dealer.

Chicago190
11-08-2009, 03:08 PM
If the packing has just started dripping excessively you may be able to get by with just tightening the stuffing box.

FrankSchwab
11-09-2009, 07:09 PM
I haven't owned a boat that long, but some have reported a thousand hours without replacing the packing. I wouldn't bother until you attempt a tightening first.

/frank

dog paw
11-09-2009, 07:28 PM
I haven't owned a boat that long, but some have reported a thousand hours without replacing the packing. I wouldn't bother until you attempt a tightening first.

/frank

For sure! 25 years and 800 hours on mine and its never been apart. I'd have to see that leak with my own eyes before letting anyone lay tools to it.

CMack225vrs
11-09-2009, 10:25 PM
Turns out there is more to this story. Stay tuned. I'll be getting a second opinion.

FrankSchwab
11-10-2009, 01:11 AM
The plot thickens...

85S&S_Keuka
11-11-2009, 12:39 PM
For sure! 25 years and 800 hours on mine and its never been apart. I'd have to see that leak with my own eyes before letting anyone lay tools to it.

I had 1300 hours on mine when I finally replaced it - not 'cause it was leeking, but I was doing the strut bearing too so I had the shaft out anyway. The shaft did have some wear marks on it.

Jim@BAWS
11-11-2009, 02:05 PM
I had 1300 hours on mine when I finally replaced it - not 'cause it was leeking, but I was doing the strut bearing too so I had the shaft out anyway. The shaft did have some wear marks on it.



Figure this 1300 hours thats

That average 2500 RPMs per minute X 60 min x 1300rs = 195,000,000

I guess that it might wear a little after that many RPMs

Jim@BAWS

PS I figured that out myself

davomaddo
11-11-2009, 02:21 PM
$1200 is a rip off, but on a V-Drive I am not sure about calling this "easy".
On V-Drives, you need special wrenches to do this job.

Just tightening the packing on my last V-Drive was a major PITA.
I am a big fan of the new dripless packing.