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Jim@BAWS
10-29-2009, 09:58 AM
This woman is a MORON

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CiyjhP-bXM

ProStar Slalom
10-29-2009, 10:01 AM
This woman is a MORON

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CiyjhP-bXM


Yep, almost makes me ashamed to be a California native.

Sodar
10-29-2009, 10:07 AM
Yep, almost makes me ashamed to be a California native.

Hey, as long as you aren't a Native of San Fran, you are good. This c**t represents the minority and will hopefully get no further than where she is now.

bigmac
10-29-2009, 10:15 AM
That this woman was elected leader of her party speaks volumes about the degeneration of American politics and the mindset of the majority of politicians in Congress.

thatsmrmastercraft
10-29-2009, 10:39 AM
No argument from me, but in the interest of saving time and space, wouldn't is be easier to list the politicians to keep?

D3skier
10-29-2009, 12:19 PM
No argument from me, but in the interest of saving time and space, wouldn't is be easier to list the politicians to keep?

each posting has to be a minimum of 10 characters so I don't think that would be possible

JimN
10-29-2009, 12:21 PM
Hey, as long as you aren't a Native of San Fran, you are good. This c**t represents the minority and will hopefully get no further than where she is now.

She's two places from being President- she can't go much higher in our government. If she represents the minority, how did she get as far as she has?

This looks like it will be a repeat of a thread I started somewhere else that I called "Pelosi's an idgit!". Politicians are liars and whores.

Sodar
10-29-2009, 01:27 PM
She's two places from being President- she can't go much higher in our government. If she represents the minority, how did she get as far as she has?

This looks like it will be a repeat of a thread I started somewhere else that I called "Pelosi's an idgit!". Politicians are liars and whores.

Pelosi has gotten to where she is because of a pussification of society. We have all become lazy and let her get to where she is because of the "I don't give a *@%^" mentality.

I just hope she does not get any higher than where she is... President Pelosi is a very scary thought!

Monte
10-29-2009, 01:32 PM
Amen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

454Prostar190
10-29-2009, 02:08 PM
My political affiliation starts with an (R) and I live in SF. On occasion, I'll drive by "her" house and I know I'm there because of the protesters!

FrankSchwab
10-29-2009, 04:15 PM
That this woman was elected leader of her party speaks volumes about the degeneration of American politics and the mindset of the majority of politicians in Congress.

I got no love for Pelosi, but you've got to agree that Shrub rising to the top of his party speaks even louder about the degeneration of American politics and the mindset of the majority of politicians.

/frank

JimN
10-29-2009, 04:28 PM
My political affiliation starts with an (R) and I live in SF. On occasion, I'll drive by "her" house and I know I'm there because of the protesters!

I have to wonder what good is done by protesting in front of her house when she's not there. Or, is she?

454Prostar190
10-29-2009, 04:44 PM
I have to wonder what good is done by protesting in front of her house when she's not there. Or, is she?

A very good point! And I don't have a clue:( I'm sure that it irritates her neighbors though! "Code Pink" posted up outside her place for about a week a while back!

trickskier
10-29-2009, 05:03 PM
That this woman was elected leader of her party speaks volumes about the degeneration of American politics and the mindset of the majority of politicians in Congress.

Well said!!!

trickskier
10-29-2009, 05:04 PM
I have to wonder what good is done by protesting in front of her house when she's not there. Or, is she?

The porch light is flickering..............If you know what I mean............:rolleyes:

Jimmauburn
10-29-2009, 05:25 PM
Woman has NO MIND...... just thinks out of her a$$ !!!!! LOL

M-Funf
10-29-2009, 07:02 PM
She's two places from being President- she can't go much higher in our government. If she represents the minority, how did she get as far as she has?

This looks like it will be a repeat of a thread I started somewhere else that I called "Pelosi's an idgit!". Politicians are liars and whores.

To think that if the President and Vice President were killed or died, she would be in that post.

She sometimes comes to our little town and rides on floats in the parades. She may be in the Veterans Day Parade on 11/11.

We ALWAYS BOOOOOOO her very loudly when she passes by. That caused my wife to get into a little scuffle last year...seems the libs don't like it when we disapprove of their elected officials. :o

We boooooooooooooo Woolsey, too. She's more of an idjit than Pelosi.

Skipper
10-29-2009, 08:07 PM
She rates number two on my list of most hated women, right after Jane Fonda. I hope she gets run over by an M1 Tank.

JimN
10-29-2009, 08:14 PM
She rates number two on my list of most hated women, right after Jane Fonda. I hope she gets run over by an M1 Tank.

Getting run over by a fat kid on a bike would be perfectly acceptable.

2RLAKE
10-29-2009, 08:17 PM
amen to all of you ... sodar you are right on ... she is one scary *****. The thing i am most concerned about is how high she has climbed ... #3 position in the greatest country ... and whose only goal, like our president, is to topple this economy and push their leftist agenda until the unthinkable happens ... all part of their greater plan.

Chuck Norris and Glenn Beck!!!

jipster43
10-31-2009, 01:03 PM
I love taxes. They pay for the bridges & roads that get me to the lake. They paid for the dam that made the lake. They maintain the foundation for all the businesses in America (courts, rules of incorporation, etc.) It's important to effectively maintain the American commons and that takes money. Finding an equitable means of taxing that creates the least amount of poverty, the greatest amount of financial mobility, and the stimilus needed for entrepeneurial endeavors is the trick, butchya' gotta' have taxes.

Unfortunately the tax burden has shifted from those who can afford it to those who cannot which creates an inequity in society that simply doesn't work (Ronald Reagan's cutting the tax rate on the ultra wealthy and passing it on to the middle class by doubling the social security tax). Our country is often referred to as "The Great Experiment". We need to take that to heart and witness what has worked and what hasn't worked and procede accordingly despite ideology. Let's work off evidence not theory.

I'm like my grandpa, an Eisenhower Republican - which makes me a flaming liberal I guess. I like things to work efficiently but effectively. I don't hate government. I love my government, because I love my country and it's We The People who make up our government. We figured out a long time ago that our lives are made easier and cheaper when we leave certain obligations in the hands of the government such as our Army, fire protection, police force, safe drinking water, etc.... It's our responsibility to study the issues and protect our commons and our government from demigogues who harp on taxes at the peril of our country.

Taxes are a responsibility. You can pay now, or pay later, but you will pay - one way or another.

And that's all I'm going to say on the off topic forum, 'cause I'm here to boat - not offend my pals!

JP :)

CantRepeat
10-31-2009, 01:54 PM
That is pretty damn funny.

Isn't the removal of a tax decrease a tax increase?

Um, No.

I do believe she is lacking in the mental department.

JimN
10-31-2009, 02:57 PM
I love taxes. They pay for the bridges & roads that get me to the lake. They paid for the dam that made the lake. They maintain the foundation for all the businesses in America (courts, rules of incorporation, etc.) It's important to effectively maintain the American commons and that takes money. Finding an equitable means of taxing that creates the least amount of poverty, the greatest amount of financial mobility, and the stimilus needed for entrepeneurial endeavors is the trick, butchya' gotta' have taxes.

Unfortunately the tax burden has shifted from those who can afford it to those who cannot which creates an inequity in society that simply doesn't work (Ronald Reagan's cutting the tax rate on the ultra wealthy and passing it on to the middle class by doubling the social security tax). Our country is often referred to as "The Great Experiment". We need to take that to heart and witness what has worked and what hasn't worked and procede accordingly despite ideology. Let's work off evidence not theory.

I'm like my grandpa, an Eisenhower Republican - which makes me a flaming liberal I guess. I like things to work efficiently but effectively. I don't hate government. I love my government, because I love my country and it's We The People who make up our government. We figured out a long time ago that our lives are made easier and cheaper when we leave certain obligations in the hands of the government such as our Army, fire protection, police force, safe drinking water, etc.... It's our responsibility to study the issues and protect our commons and our government from demigogues who harp on taxes at the peril of our country.

Taxes are a responsibility. You can pay now, or pay later, but you will pay - one way or another.

And that's all I'm going to say on the off topic forum, 'cause I'm here to boat - not offend my pals!

JP :)

I don't think anyone said that taxes should be eliminated- the problem is that government is too bog, wasteful and that costs us too much. Also, Congress is full of people who think they should be above the law and exempt from most of what we pay them to do. They'll also be exempt from any public option in the health care bill. They have great insurance and it's not paid for by them.

It's possible to love our country while trying to wrest control of it back from the government. They work for us and we shouldn't be squeezed dry by all of their special projects that they benefit from, personally. That's not the purpose of government and it shouldn't be one of the benefits from being in government. It's our duty to make them do what we want and need them to do but so many people get handouts that they don't see that a problem exists. The ones getting these handouts usually don't pay taxes other than FICA, so when a tax increase hits the rest of us, it doesn't touch them, at all.

uncleboo
10-31-2009, 03:05 PM
I just read where the government spent $160K for EACH job created/saved in the stimulus plan. Yes, $160000 (that is US dollars and not pesos). And now the health care bill costs roughly 1 Trillion Dollars Muuuhaahhaaahaa! (Dr. Evil with his pinky at his mouth). Yeah for socialism and runaway spending!

JimN
10-31-2009, 03:35 PM
I just read where the government spent $160K for EACH job created/saved in the stimulus plan. Yes, $160000 (that is US dollars and not pesos). And now the health care bill costs roughly 1 Trillion Dollars Muuuhaahhaaahaa! (Dr. Evil with his pinky at his mouth). Yeah for socialism and runaway spending!

A friend told me that every car in the Cash For Clunkers program cost the government about $25K and the first $1.6 Billion was spent on administering it.

That's my problem with this stuff, in a nutshell. It costs too fargin' much to run programs like this and the vast majority of the new jobs will be in government, which is the largest single employer in the US.

j2nh
10-31-2009, 04:42 PM
I don't think anyone said that taxes should be eliminated- the problem is that government is too bog, wasteful and that costs us too much. Also, Congress is full of people who think they should be above the law and exempt from most of what we pay them to do. They'll also be exempt from any public option in the health care bill. They have great insurance and it's not paid for by them.

It's possible to love our country while trying to wrest control of it back from the government. They work for us and we shouldn't be squeezed dry by all of their special projects that they benefit from, personally. That's not the purpose of government and it shouldn't be one of the benefits from being in government. It's our duty to make them do what we want and need them to do but so many people get handouts that they don't see that a problem exists. The ones getting these handouts usually don't pay taxes other than FICA, so when a tax increase hits the rest of us, it doesn't touch them, at all.

Well stated and I believe an opinion shared by a majority. It is the notion of career politicians that unless they are bringing back to their districts government projects (PORK), they are not doing their jobs. I would love to see term limits, say 2 terms for the Senate (12 years) and 4 for the House (8 years), so that we could get representation that was still in touch with the people they represent.
There can be no recovery without jobs. Everything our government is doing right now should be focused on job creation, and NOT government jobs. Business creates jobs that create wealth, government creates jobs that drain wealth.

JimN
10-31-2009, 05:47 PM
Well stated and I believe an opinion shared by a majority. It is the notion of career politicians that unless they are bringing back to their districts government projects (PORK), they are not doing their jobs. I would love to see term limits, say 2 terms for the Senate (12 years) and 4 for the House (8 years), so that we could get representation that was still in touch with the people they represent.
There can be no recovery without jobs. Everything our government is doing right now should be focused on job creation, and NOT government jobs. Business creates jobs that create wealth, government creates jobs that drain wealth.

Maybe shared by a majority here but if it was the opinion of the majority of the voters, that mob wouldn't be in office.

j2nh
10-31-2009, 07:02 PM
Maybe shared by a majority here but if it was the opinion of the majority of the voters, that mob wouldn't be in office.

You would think, but maybe the severity of the current crisis will open the eyes of the sheep. People need to open their eyes, ask questions and demand accountability. The Status quo is not going to work if we are going to get out of this mess.

JimN
10-31-2009, 07:19 PM
You would think, but maybe the severity of the current crisis will open the eyes of the sheep. People need to open their eyes, ask questions and demand accountability. The Status quo is not going to work if we are going to get out of this mess.

I doubt enough will change their mind about whether they should be replaced. Kids in school don't learn why this is bad, they only learn that government helps people who "can't find a job". Funny- many of the ones who can't find a job didn't bother to stay in school.

Coincidence? You decide.

Skipper
10-31-2009, 07:52 PM
I have been gone all day...did Pelosi get run over by a tank yet?

JimN
10-31-2009, 08:52 PM
I have been gone all day...did Pelosi get run over by a tank yet?

No, still among the hoard.:(:(:(

Chief
10-31-2009, 11:35 PM
She needs to get laid! That would delinate her tight axx.

jipster43
11-06-2009, 07:39 PM
Our government doesn't work for us because the politicians are bought and paid for by the huge corporations. Corporations should not be considered natural persons and they should not be allowed to contribute money to political campaigns. Teddy R. outlawed this and he busted up monopolies. Teddy was a true conservative - not a corporatist.

If you don't like what's happenning in Washington D.C., the first thing you need to do is reform the financing of campaigns. Take a look at how much each congressperson is receiving from the pharmaceutical companies, the insurance companies, big banks, etc.... No constituent is ever going to equal those contributions and therefore the politician is always going to work for the corps and not us.

Bringing this back to the original topic, no politician is ever going to admit to a tax increase because they'll be beaten over the head with those words every time they run for office. The American public demands that our politicians lie to us. The original conservative movement in this country didn't want the masses to have the vote, because they reasoned that the masses would always vote against taxing themselves.

Medicare operates on a 3% administrative cost. Private insurance operates on between 15-30% administrative costs. Steven Hemsley of United Health Care makes over $150,000 an hour! I think the wastes and extravagances of government versus the private sector are greatly exaggerated.

Why do we have a national military? Why does the government run our police & fire departments? Because it would cost far too much for anyone to pay for those services on an individual basis.

I'm all for sorting out inefficiencies and waste in our government, however, government is the only thing protecting us from the far greater power of the multi-national industrial corporate complex. If you think it's hard to get your representative to hear your complaints, try chatting with Steven Hemsley!

My grandpa didn't vote for Ronal Reagan because Reagan said, "The ten scariest words are, 'I'm from the government, and I'm here to help.'" He figured that a politician who runs on the idea that government is bad will have the perverse incentive to prove their theory, and I am inclined to agree with my grandpa.

JP :)

ejg333
11-06-2009, 07:50 PM
Cant Stand Pelosi , Boxer , Feinstein , or any Dem from Ca all worthless IMHO.

Skipper
11-06-2009, 08:44 PM
...Bringing this back to the original topic, no politician is ever going to admit to a tax increase because they'll be beaten over the head with those words every time they run for office....
JP :)

No, the original topic was to get rid of Pelosi. Because she is a socialist, scum sucking, military hating, poo eating, female dog!

ROB
11-07-2009, 11:51 PM
Things were going so well with GW in the white house. My, but don't you R's have poor memories. Our financial system was in free fall because of mindless policies of the right. Say what you want about slick Willie, he left office without a deficit. Reganomics, double digit mortgage rates, followed by recession. it's embarrassing to read some of the comments being made on this site. Is this Mastercraft TeamTalk or the Misogynists Support Blog. Those of you that are now seniors collecting SS benefits and Medicare, go ahead and give those benefits back because after all, you don't need government to take care of you. Your party is one of hypocrisy and false rhetoric.

JimN
11-08-2009, 05:40 AM
Things were going so well with GW in the white house. My, but don't you R's have poor memories. Our financial system was in free fall because of mindless policies of the right. Say what you want about slick Willie, he left office without a deficit. Reganomics, double digit mortgage rates, followed by recession. it's embarrassing to read some of the comments being made on this site. Is this Mastercraft TeamTalk or the Misogynists Support Blog. Those of you that are now seniors collecting SS benefits and Medicare, go ahead and give those benefits back because after all, you don't need government to take care of you. Your party is one of hypocrisy and false rhetoric.

Did you forget that the benefits many collect come from a fund that has been raided for special projects over the decades, by both parties, and it's funded by taxpayers & businesses- not the government? The government originated the Social Security Act during the Depression and anyone who works pays into the fund, unless they're "off the books" or the business evades it's responsibility. Government has never met a dollar that it didn't want to appropriate.

http://www.ssa.gov/history/35act.html

How do you justify paying illegals out of the Social Security fund? Granting immunity to them would be a slap in the face of every person who bothered to go through the normal process and just avoids dealing with the real issues.

Skipper
11-08-2009, 08:48 AM
Things were going so well with GW in the white house. My, but don't you R's have poor memories. Our financial system was in free fall because of mindless policies of the right. Say what you want about slick Willie, he left office without a deficit. Reganomics, double digit mortgage rates, followed by recession. it's embarrassing to read some of the comments being made on this site. Is this Mastercraft TeamTalk or the Misogynists Support Blog. Those of you that are now seniors collecting SS benefits and Medicare, go ahead and give those benefits back because after all, you don't need government to take care of you. Your party is one of hypocrisy and false rhetoric.

I say again, the original topic is that Pelosi is a socialist, scum sucking, military hating, poo eating, female dog! She ranks second, only to Jane Fonda.

You want to discuss mindless policies? How about government run health care! How about millions of non-tax paying, bottom feeders living off our government just because they can! How about we wouldn't have a terrorist for a president if it werent for the efforts of the corrupt left wing agency, Acorn!

I hope Pelosi gets run over by a tank.

trickskier
11-08-2009, 10:33 AM
No, the original topic was to get rid of Pelosi. Because she is a socialist, scum sucking, military hating, poo eating, female dog!

I couldn't agree more!!! :D

JimN
11-08-2009, 10:43 AM
I say again, the original topic is that Pelosi is a socialist, scum sucking, military hating, poo eating, female dog! She ranks second, only to Jane Fonda.

You want to discuss mindless policies? How about government run health care! How about millions of non-tax paying, bottom feeders living off our government just because they can! How about we wouldn't have a terrorist for a president if it werent for the efforts of the corrupt left wing agency, Acorn!

I hope Pelosi gets run over by a tank.

They're not living off of the government- they're living off of us, the taxpayers. Our government is just the entity that decides how much we'll pay and how they'll spend what we have given up whether we like it, or not.

SkiDog
11-08-2009, 10:44 AM
Did you forget that the benefits many collect come from a fund that has been raided for special projects over the decades, by both parties, and it's funded by taxpayers & businesses- not the government? The government originated the Social Security Act during the Depression and anyone who works pays into the fund, unless they're "off the books" or the business evades it's responsibility. Government has never met a dollar that it didn't want to appropriate.

http://www.ssa.gov/history/35act.html

How do you justify paying illegals out of the Social Security fund? Granting immunity to them would be a slap in the face of every person who bothered to go through the normal process and just avoids dealing with the real issues.

................

SkiDog
11-08-2009, 10:47 AM
Did you forget that the benefits many collect come from a fund that has been raided for special projects over the decades, by both parties, and it's funded by taxpayers & businesses- not the government? The government originated the Social Security Act during the Depression and anyone who works pays into the fund, unless they're "off the books" or the business evades it's responsibility. Government has never met a dollar that it didn't want to appropriate.

http://www.ssa.gov/history/35act.html

How do you justify paying illegals out of the Social Security fund? Granting immunity to them would be a slap in the face of every person who bothered to go through the normal process and just avoids dealing with the real issues.

ROB
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Things were going so well with GW in the white house. My, but don't you R's have poor memories. Our financial system was in free fall because of mindless policies of the right. Say what you want about slick Willie, he left office without a deficit. Reganomics, double digit mortgage rates, followed by recession. it's embarrassing to read some of the comments being made on this site. Is this Mastercraft TeamTalk or the Misogynists Support Blog. Those of you that are now seniors collecting SS benefits and Medicare, go ahead and give those benefits back because after all, you don't need government to take care of you. Your party is one of hypocrisy and false rhetoric.

JimN, you can fix most anything, too bad ya can't fix 'Stupid'!:D

Laurel_Lake_Skier
11-08-2009, 11:04 AM
They're not living off of the government- they're living off of us, the taxpayers. Our government is just the entity that decides how much we'll pay and how they'll spend what we have given up whether we like it, or not.
That's what kills me. People are all for these "government programs" , health care, cash for clunkers....the list goes on. It sounds like a great free ride but most folks never stop to think that before the government pays these bills, the money has to come out of the tax payers pockets first. I guess it goes back to the old sayings.....you don't get something for nothing and if sounds to good to be true it probably is.

trickskier
11-08-2009, 11:07 AM
They're not living off of the government- they're living off of us, the taxpayers. Our government is just the entity that decides how much we'll pay and how they'll spend what we have given up whether we like it, or not.

They're Public PARASITES..................8p

JimN
11-08-2009, 12:10 PM
They're Public PARASITES..................8p

Who? The non tax payers and bottom feeders or Congress?

JimN
11-08-2009, 12:10 PM
Anyone know the latest approval numbers for Congress, or don't they check that anymore?

http://www.ipsos-na.com/news/pressrelease.cfm?id=4582

The third paragraph says a lot and I don't mean to convey any kind of racial bias on my part. What I'd like to see is whether those percentages have changed since last year, how much and why.

JimN
11-08-2009, 12:51 PM
This shows that Pelosi is there for all of the wrong reasons and anyone who thinks this was about her needs to go away, ASAP.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20091108/pl_politico/29281

“Somebody asked me if this was a victory for [President] Barack Obama. It’s not. This victory belongs to her,” said House Rules Committee Chairwoman Louise Slaughter (D-N.Y.). “As far as I know she never sleeps nor eats.”

Of course she never eats or sleeps. She's an alien.

Gee- and all this time, I had heard our government was here for us. Hmmm. It's a victory for Nancy Pelosi. Isn't that special.

TX.X-30 fan
11-08-2009, 02:02 PM
That this woman was elected leader of her party speaks volumes about the degeneration of American politics and the mindset of the majority of politicians in Congress.



Your saying that it seems amazing someone so incredibly stupid is the 3rd most powerful person in the nation??


Anyone like to have a do-over with Tom Delay and GW. :D

TX.X-30 fan
11-08-2009, 02:05 PM
Anyone know the latest approval numbers for Congress, or don't they check that anymore?

http://www.ipsos-na.com/news/pressrelease.cfm?id=4582

The third paragraph says a lot and I don't mean to convey any kind of racial bias on my part. What I'd like to see is whether those percentages have changed since last year, how much and why.





Nearly the entire CBC in under investigation............. not racial just fact.

JimN
11-08-2009, 04:03 PM
Your saying that it seems amazing someone so incredibly stupid is the 3rd most powerful person in the nation??


Anyone like to have a do-over with Tom Delay and GW. :D

No, I still wouldn't have wanted Algore or John Kerry as President. The only degrees Algore has were given after he was VP and Kerry's college transcripts were quashed because he didn't want it know that his grades were worse than W's. Bush effed up in many ways but he's not as stupid as many think. He won't be remembered as a particularly good President but he definitely handled major crises well. People need to remember that a President has some powers but if the people who work under him don't like him or his policies, they're very likely to do whatever they can to make him look bad. For all of the people who continue to dump on him for Katrina, all he could have done is tell people to do things and try to get things done but FEMA did a crappy job, admittedly. However, and I see almost nobody talking about it, Nagin is a turd and looks for every possible way to whine about not getting any help. They know hurricanes come through there every season and neither the state nor the city still can't seem to come up with a good plan for dealing with disastrous events.

cbryan70
11-08-2009, 06:14 PM
Did you forget that the benefits many collect come from a fund that has been raided for special projects over the decades, by both parties, and it's funded by taxpayers & businesses- not the government? The government originated the Social Security Act during the Depression and anyone who works pays into the fund, unless they're "off the books" or the business evades it's responsibility. Government has never met a dollar that it didn't want to appropriate.

http://www.ssa.gov/history/35act.html

How do you justify paying illegals out of the Social Security fund? Granting immunity to them would be a slap in the face of every person who bothered to go through the normal process and just avoids dealing with the real issues.

If SS followed plan I do not believe most here would be collecting until there late 70's....i would be in my 80's before I got a check if it stayed the course it was originally planned

TX.X-30 fan
11-08-2009, 07:36 PM
There is no fund that's a fallacy, what is paid in monthly is paid out monthly and the little left over is spent as general fund money. It is no better or worse than what Bernie madoff's plan was.

TX.X-30 fan
11-08-2009, 07:36 PM
It will be means-tested sooner or later...................