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David Preston
10-25-2009, 03:37 PM
What year and model is this boat? I haven't seen one like this before.
Thanks for any help. I am looking to buy a fun ski boat Mastercraft to
use in Virginia and I saw this one for sale.

AFX-30
10-25-2009, 03:45 PM
What year and model is this boat? I haven't seen one like this before.
Thanks for any help. I am looking to buy a fun ski boat Mastercraft to
use in Virginia and I saw this one for sale.

We need a pic inorder to help.

David Preston
10-25-2009, 03:48 PM
Sorry photos attached now.

Covi
10-25-2009, 03:53 PM
Looks like an 89 Tri Star. Nice boat, funky interior configuration.

David Preston
10-25-2009, 03:57 PM
I kinda like the lay out. Will that hurt it's value?
Any thoughts of what this boat should cost?

AFX-30
10-25-2009, 04:11 PM
What are your plans for the boat? If you are planning on keeping for awhile I would not worry about it to much. Tristar 190

Double D
10-25-2009, 05:08 PM
Doesn't Monte have the same boat?

TMCNo1
10-25-2009, 05:14 PM
It appears to be a 1987 or '88 TriStar220 by the 1/2+ windshield and single drivers seat, not the double seat, but it has 190 decals on the side. Most all the TriStar 190's came on single axle trailer and that is a double axle that was under the 220's.
What are the last two numbers in the HIN, that is the year model and /or what is the date of manufacturer on the trailer ID tag?????

The owner should have some type of paperwork, trailer title, boat registration, insurance papers, bill of sale, etc., that should tell part of the story.

Jim@BAWS
10-25-2009, 05:30 PM
88 TRISTAR 220 Walk Around

TMCNo1
10-25-2009, 05:35 PM
Doesn't Monte have the same boat?


Monte's bottom feeder has the plexiglass windshield, companion seat and is a '86, IIRC.

duckguy
10-25-2009, 06:23 PM
Certainly not Mastercrafts pinnacle of eye catching beauty

Double D
10-25-2009, 06:44 PM
Monte's bottom feeder has the plexiglass windshield, companion seat and is a '86, IIRC.

Thanks No1. The interior shots from Monte's lastest resurrection pictures looked real similar. "Bottom Feeder"? Thats not nice.... :rolleyes:

TMCNo1
10-25-2009, 07:17 PM
Thanks No1. The interior shots from Monte's lastest resurrection pictures looked real similar. "Bottom Feeder"? Thats not nice.... :rolleyes:


He knows it was in jest and also knows it could have been worse. I'm not gonna let him off that easy!:rolleyes::D

Jim@BAWS
10-25-2009, 07:57 PM
For those POWER TURN junkies...the 220 is the MOST fun off all hulls to POWERTURN

Hold on for dear life cause once that hull breaks loose it aint stopping. The easiest of all to
make it go a total 360 deg

Jim@BAWS

JohnE
10-25-2009, 08:16 PM
It really looks like a 190 to me, not a 220.....???? Do we know for sure?

"Bottom feeder" made me spit my Jack Daniels all over the keyboard Harold, LOL.:D I know it's in jest and so does Monte.

Jim, Skidog said the same thing about doing bat turns with that boat. Monte wouldn't let him have at it though....

FWIW, it is an unconventional look. But it seems like it would be super functional. When I bought my '88 tristar 'walk through', I was showing my BIL the original sales brochure and he thought the 'walk around' (if I'm getting it right) was a great set up. And that was only 4 years ago.

jdl xstar
10-25-2009, 08:31 PM
Never seen that model before. Interesting. Imagine the room in that thing if it were a v-drive. Would be a party boat for sure.

TMCNo1
10-25-2009, 09:03 PM
It really looks like a 190 to me, not a 220.....???? Do we know for sure?

"Bottom feeder" made me spit my Jack Daniels all over the keyboard Harold, LOL.:D I know it's in jest and so does Monte.

Jim, Skidog said the same thing about doing bat turns with that boat. Monte wouldn't let him have at it though....

FWIW, it is an unconventional look. But it seems like it would be super functional. When I bought my '88 tristar 'walk through', I was showing my BIL the original sales brochure and he thought the 'walk around' (if I'm getting it right) was a great set up. And that was only 4 years ago.

According to the brochures and Star magazines I have back to '87, the walk-around and walk-thru open bow only came on 220, with a single driver seat or companion seat as a option, while the 190 came as a walk thru and a closed bow only.
That boat is a '88 as previously stated by the configuration of the interior trim.

Jim@BAWS
10-25-2009, 09:08 PM
According to the brochures and Star magazines I have back to '87, the walk-around and walk-thru open bow only came on 220, with a single driver seat or companion seat as a option, while the 190 came as a walk thru and a closed bow only.
That boat is a '88 as previously stated by the configuration of the interior trim.


OMG I just spit up my Chips Ahoy Cookies and Milk.

The second time around it does not taste as good as the first

Jim@BAWS

Jim@BAWS
10-25-2009, 09:10 PM
It really looks like a 190 to me, not a 220.....???? Do we know for sure?

Someone put the incorrect stickers on the side

Jim@BAWS

Miss Rita
10-25-2009, 09:11 PM
Why would someone put "TriStar 190" stickers on a 220?

I'm voting that it's an '88-'89 TriStar 190 single console. The tandem trailer probably came with it.

Sure looks a lot like my '89 TriStar and tandem trailer.

TMCNo1
10-25-2009, 09:21 PM
Monte's bottom feeder has the plexiglass windshield, companion seat and is a '86, IIRC.

The '86 was the first year of the TriStar 190 and 220 and the 220 had the plexiglass windshield w/o a aluminum frame, but in '87 they changed over to the frame as shown in post #1.
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Jim@BAWS
10-25-2009, 09:29 PM
I just went through dealer link The PDF is to large to past up here

Just like I said before It is an 88 Tristar 220 Walkaround

jipster43
10-25-2009, 09:30 PM
I've always been a closed bow kind of fella', but those boats look like a lot of fun. Pure leisure with no attitude.

JP :)

ski_king
10-25-2009, 09:36 PM
That would be an interesting design to bring back as a v-drive. May sell a few more of those that the 300's.

Or maybe try a design and move the control consol to the middle.
Oh yea, nevermind, the CSX Series .....

Miss Rita
10-25-2009, 10:57 PM
Just like I said before It is an 88 Tristar 220 Walkaround

Just curious Jim. Since the 220 and 190 look much the same, what makes it clear that the boat pictured is indeed a 220?

André
10-26-2009, 08:00 AM
Why would someone put "TriStar 190" stickers on a 220?.

The "under 20 feet lenght" boat rule on some lakes may have something to do with it...

Monte
10-26-2009, 09:15 AM
Not a 1986 220. I would guess 87 or 88. It is 100% a 220 though.. You would be amazed how many compliments I get from non-MC people on the space inside and on the boat in general.

cmw
10-26-2009, 09:19 AM
Just curious Jim. Since the 220 and 190 look much the same, what makes it clear that the boat pictured is indeed a 220?

I know you guys are experts, but I think it looks like a 190 also. The drivers seat is single and the distance from the engine cover is the same as the 190. Usually you have some extra room on a 220. My 190 came with a tandem trailer from Mastercraft. I am probably wrong, but it looks like a 190 to me.

Jim@BAWS
10-26-2009, 10:51 AM
I know you guys are experts, but I think it looks like a 190 also. The drivers seat is single and the distance from the engine cover is the same as the 190. Usually you have some extra room on a 220. My 190 came with a tandem trailer from Mastercraft. I am probably wrong, but it looks like a 190 to me.

I guess the next mystery question should be Did MC make the original trailers under the Tristars? Who made them and for how long?


OK...you guys are right. MC made a 190 in a walk around version in China, then imported one of them into the US

Sorry I stand corrected...


Onto the next thread

See if I can make up some more rumors HA HA HA

Jim@BAWS

David Preston
10-26-2009, 10:53 AM
Thanks for all the comments on the Mastercraft.
Any thoughts on what this boat should sell for in good shape?
I have never had a Mastercraft (let alone a 20 year old one) do they hold up well if taken care of? They always looked to me like they were very well made boats.
What should I look for when I look at this boat? Does this boat have fiberglass stringers in the floor?
This boat would be a second boat for me one to ski and wake board have a 23" Ebb Tide to cruise in.

cmw
10-26-2009, 11:20 AM
I stand corrected. I did not see Monte's reply when I posted and Jim seems to know it all. I have a 1990 boat that was not taken care of and now it is. It is a very reliable boat and easy to work on. I'll let Jim answer the rest of your questions.

Miss Rita
10-26-2009, 11:44 AM
I bought my '89 TriStar with OEM tandem trailer three months ago. It was pristine, had only 220 hours. All it needed was detailing and new tires for the trailer. I paid $9500, which I would consider top dollar. I knew the owner, and knew I wouldn't have any problems, so it was worth it to me.

TMCNo1
10-26-2009, 01:00 PM
Thanks for all the comments on the Mastercraft.
Any thoughts on what this boat should sell for in good shape?
I have never had a Mastercraft (let alone a 20 year old one) do they hold up well if taken care of? They always looked to me like they were very well made boats.
What should I look for when I look at this boat? Does this boat have fiberglass stringers in the floor?
This boat would be a second boat for me one to ski and wake board have a 23" Ebb Tide to cruise in.

Yes, that boat will have fiberglass stringers.

Here is a used boat buying tutorial in the General Discussion FAQ, http://mastercraft.com/teamtalk/showpost.php?p=257514&postcount=47

BTW, the tandem trailers of that era for the TriStar and MariStar were built to MC specifications by,


SMP, Sweetwater Metal Products Company
(423) 337-3466
127 Industrial Park Rd, Sweetwater, TN 37874

and still carry replacement parts for some of the original installed items like the braking system and axles.

etduc
10-26-2009, 01:54 PM
What year and model is this boat? I haven't seen one like this before.
Thanks for any help. I am looking to buy a fun ski boat Mastercraft to
use in Virginia and I saw this one for sale.

It is a 220, measured from tip of bow to end of intergrated swim flatform. (Keep the 190 stickers on it, 20ft rule on some lakes.)

Here in North Texas, these where sot-after boats for partying, a few years ago. Not a bad beginner wakeboard boat. The 220 is a little better, than 190 in rougher water, but not much. (I had a 190 walk-thru) The boat is nose heavy, because the gas tank is mid-ship.
Also, a little harder to balance the wake, due to seating configuration. It is a recreational boat. They can be fun boats.

This one looks to be in pretty good shape. Do a engine compression test, make sure starter, alternator, and carburator are marine grade.

Take it for a ride. $9600 would be for special reasons. (see above post.)

They can be had for $4500-8000, in reasonable shape. It's fall... it's a buyers market.

mccobmd
10-26-2009, 05:04 PM
88 TRISTAR 220 Walk Around

We're not worthy :worthy::worthy::worthy:

carracer
10-26-2009, 05:06 PM
88 tri star

JohnE
10-26-2009, 07:12 PM
According to the brochures and Star magazines I have back to '87, the walk-around and walk-thru open bow only came on 220, with a single driver seat or companion seat as a option, while the 190 came as a walk thru and a closed bow only.
That boat is a '88 as previously stated by the configuration of the interior trim.

Someone put the incorrect stickers on the side

Jim@BAWS


Thanks guys. I didn't realize that there wasn't a 190 walk around version. I thought that they offered it in both the 190 and 220.

JohnE
10-26-2009, 07:23 PM
This '88 brochure shows that they did offer a walk around tristar 190.....

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JohnE
10-26-2009, 07:26 PM
Here's the 220's. They appear to have a much wider driver seat. I think the boat in the OP is a 190. Maybe it's the photo boat. Doesn't seem that they made very many.

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JohnE
10-26-2009, 07:31 PM
Thanks for all the comments on the Mastercraft.
Any thoughts on what this boat should sell for in good shape?
I have never had a Mastercraft (let alone a 20 year old one) do they hold up well if taken care of? They always looked to me like they were very well made boats.
What should I look for when I look at this boat? Does this boat have fiberglass stringers in the floor?
This boat would be a second boat for me one to ski and wake board have a 23" Ebb Tide to cruise in.

That boat is worth $8k - $9K in very good condition IMO. I sold my 190 walk thru in very good condition in '07 for $9K to a buddy. I'd have got closer to $10K if I sold it to someone else. (I know because it was too late to cancel the want ad ad and I got a ton of calls.)

If I were going to buy, I would be trying to get it for about $7500. Looks like new skins and carpets.

JohnE
10-26-2009, 07:34 PM
I guess the next mystery question should be Did MC make the original trailers under the Tristars? Who made them and for how long?


OK...you guys are right. MC made a 190 in a walk around version in China, then imported one of them into the US

Sorry I stand corrected...


Onto the next thread

See if I can make up some more rumors HA HA HA

Jim@BAWS


Maybe you can add some tristar 190 walk around questions to your trivia for next year's Northeast Reunion. :D I'll refrain from answering.;)

JohnE
10-26-2009, 07:35 PM
FWIW, those SMP trailers were very nice IMO.

TMCNo1
10-26-2009, 07:53 PM
I'm surprised to see the 190 Walkaround. They just didn't do a very good job of promoting it in the Star magazine and the brochures I have. There apparently was another brochure that I don't have.

Time to move on to try and find how many layers there are in a Crab Cake and what is the preferred icing.:rolleyes::D

JohnE
10-26-2009, 08:07 PM
Harold, I assume you have the '89 brochure....was it offered in '89?

TMCNo1
10-26-2009, 08:16 PM
Harold, I assume you have the '89 brochure....was it offered in '89?

It wasn't shown in any of the '87 to '90 brochures that I've got or Star mags.

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Jim@BAWS
10-26-2009, 09:26 PM
To all my sincerest apologies. There is a 190 Tristar walk around. I have NEVER seen or
or did I know that MC made one. Before my original post I looked online at the 88 sales brochure and I went right to the 220. WOOPS. It is in the 88 sales brochure on page 15

There are 2 primary differences. 1 is the length. the 2nd is the drivers seat. In the 190 verison is a single seat like the one in the first picture on this thread. The 220 has a 2 person bench seat.

Again I will now pull my head from where the sun does not rise.

Hence...there is trully a 190 Tristar walk around.

Jim@BAWS

PS I guess you learn something new each day

TMCNo1
10-26-2009, 11:25 PM
JohnE, thanks for the other '88 MasterCraft PDF brochure showing the TriStar 190 Walkaround.
I made a file for it and will keep it safe for future reference.
That boat is definitely a TriStar 190 Walkaround by the square shape of the windshield next to the walkway.

JohnE
10-27-2009, 04:37 PM
To all my sincerest apologies. There is a 190 Tristar walk around. I have NEVER seen or
or did I know that MC made one. Before my original post I looked online at the 88 sales brochure and I went right to the 220. WOOPS. It is in the 88 sales brochure on page 15

There are 2 primary differences. 1 is the length. the 2nd is the drivers seat. In the 190 verison is a single seat like the one in the first picture on this thread. The 220 has a 2 person bench seat.

Again I will now pull my head from where the sun does not rise.

Hence...there is trully a 190 Tristar walk around.

Jim@BAWS

PS I guess you learn something new each day


It's cool. Apology not necessary. Plus that one in the OP may be the only in existence.:D

cmw
10-28-2009, 09:12 AM
It's cool. Apology not necessary. Plus that one in the OP may be the only in existence.:D

JohnE, I believe you are speaking of the Chinese version. Sorry Jim, could not resist.:rolleyes: I just saw the conclusion to this thread this morning.8p