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mjschwarz
10-10-2009, 10:31 PM
I have a 1998 Prostar 190 with the LT-1 engine. It currently has a Mastercraft factory oil filter but would like to cross reference to a filter available at an auto parts store. Does anyone know of a list of filters that would help with this?

Thanks

JimN
10-10-2009, 11:08 PM
Pennzoil PZ-3 is what they come with now. You can go to any auto parts store and cross-reference to that, or you can use the AC PF-1218 (or equivalent) if you want more filtering capacity (not a bad idea for a boat OR car). Don't use Fram.

pflcjl
10-11-2009, 07:08 AM
Ac Pf-1218

gibbons
10-11-2009, 10:53 AM
The 1218 is the one all the car guys use. And they're available at Wally Mart.

mjschwarz
10-11-2009, 12:54 PM
Thanks for the help guys.

trickskier
10-11-2009, 02:33 PM
I use the Mobil-1 -- M-1 302

Bizz238
10-11-2009, 10:27 PM
You can also use the 51069 from wix (napa) wich is highly recomended...or if you're a synthetic oil user the EAO25; but it's a little more expensive.
Personnaly, I'm all for amsoil products.

mbpd312
10-11-2009, 11:14 PM
JimN, No Fram? I have a PH5 on my boat currently. Think I should use something else when I change it huh? Just curious, whats up with the Fram?

Chicago190
10-11-2009, 11:41 PM
JimN, No Fram? I have a PH5 on my boat currently. Think I should use something else when I change it huh? Just curious, whats up with the Fram?

Fram makes some of the worst oil filters.

JimN
10-12-2009, 12:00 AM
JimN, No Fram? I have a PH5 on my boat currently. Think I should use something else when I change it huh? Just curious, whats up with the Fram?

They have cheesy filter paper, they bypass too easily and according to all of the test results posted when we discussed this a few years ago, they got the worst rating. AC, Wix and NAPA were the best unless someone wants to spend what Mobil 1 and some of the other premium filters cost but considering the fact that tehy'r eonly supposed to be on the motor for 50 hours, a decent filter like the first ones will do fine.

captain planet
10-13-2009, 10:18 AM
They have cheesy filter paper, they bypass too easily and according to all of the test results posted when we discussed this a few years ago, they got the worst rating. AC, Wix and NAPA were the best unless someone wants to spend what Mobil 1 and some of the other premium filters cost but considering the fact that tehy'r eonly supposed to be on the motor for 50 hours, a decent filter like the first ones will do fine.

WHat's the word on STP filters? Or what is the word on FRAM "tough guard" filters (or whatever they call their premium filters)? Are they just as bad?

JimN
10-13-2009, 10:21 AM
WHat's the word on STP filters? Or what is the word on FRAM "tough guard" filters (or whatever they call their premium filters)? Are they just as bad?

No idea on the STP but I haven't seen a good review of a Fram product in a long time.

captain planet
10-13-2009, 10:24 AM
No idea on the STP but I haven't seen a good review of a Fram product in a long time.

I switched away from Fram after coming onto this board a few years back. I went to the STP because they are made in USA, but if they aren't any good either I'll switch again.

OhioX14
10-13-2009, 03:03 PM
I just put a K & N HP2002 on my MCX. It was pricey ($13.99 @ AutoZone) when compared to other options but the reviews are very good and it is noticably larger (depthwise) indicating more media and theroetically better filtration. The review I read stated " The internal construction is the same as the Mobil 1 filter, but it does not filter down to as small a particle size. This filter is meant to maintain higher flow while still actively filtering, as opposed to by-passing."

Sounded good to me and I was impressed enough with the air filter of theirs that came with the engine that I thought I would give one a try. Now I have a matched set.

Bizz238
10-13-2009, 07:50 PM
A colleague of mine is a race car driver and a know mecanic...He rates K&N as ''high performance''.
As for the air filters; They're very resistant and easy to clean (I own a 1992 Prostar 190 with the Ford 351 HO).

RMUDBUGS
10-16-2009, 05:54 PM
Pennzoil PZ-3 is what they come with now. You can go to any auto parts store and cross-reference to that, or you can use the AC PF-1218 (or equivalent) if you want more filtering capacity (not a bad idea for a boat OR car). Don't use Fram.

According to he 2009 Penziol filter application guide the PZ-3 has been replaced by the
PZ-52. You could also use the PZ-45 if you have room, it's about twice as tall.

uncleboo
10-18-2009, 01:15 PM
On my LT1, I use the K&N #3002 and full synthetic 20w50 oil.

trickskier
10-18-2009, 05:09 PM
They have cheesy filter paper, they bypass too easily and according to all of the test results posted when we discussed this a few years ago, they got the worst rating. AC, Wix and NAPA were the best unless someone wants to spend what Mobil 1 and some of the other premium filters cost but considering the fact that tehy'r eonly supposed to be on the motor for 50 hours, a decent filter like the first ones will do fine.

I agree with your statement --- However, I consider the additional money that I spend for the Mobil-1 oil filter "CHEAP" insurance on a 50K+ investment.

Witness140
10-18-2009, 05:22 PM
NAPA filters are made by WIX according to my supplier. On my first MCX I used MC filters from my dealer but IIRC I found out they were supplied by FRAM? Never did confirm this, but stopped using MC filters.

I originally used the equivalent from NAPA - the Gold 1069. Since then I've switched to the Gold 1060 for more filter area. Here's a shot of them side by side.

trickskier
10-18-2009, 05:49 PM
Did you stand on your head to take that pic??? ;)

Witness140
10-18-2009, 05:59 PM
LOL....yes, thanks for noticing. Better to have one person do it to get the photo vs having everyone who reads this standing on their heads or flipping their monitors to see it.

1boarder
10-18-2009, 06:39 PM
I currently use the Napa gold 1069 on my MCX. Just to clarify, are you saying that the the Napa gold 1060 fits and is a longer filter with more filtering area?

JimN
10-18-2009, 08:52 PM
According to he 2009 Penziol filter application guide the PZ-3 has been replaced by the
PZ-52. You could also use the PZ-45 if you have room, it's about twice as tall.

If you replace the Z with F, you have the AC filter numbers.

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1231291

Witness140
10-18-2009, 09:13 PM
I currently use the Napa gold 1069 on my MCX. Just to clarify, are you saying that the the Napa gold 1060 fits and is a longer filter with more filtering area?


Yep, not only saying it, but showing a an additional picture of it as well. I used to run the 1069 until I found the longer 1060. Everything is the same, except the 1060 is longer. You can see better in this picture. Decided not to stand on my head for this one.

Witness140
10-18-2009, 09:16 PM
Guess it would help if I actually attached the photo, sorry.

captain planet
10-19-2009, 01:25 PM
I just put a K & N HP2002 on my MCX. It was pricey ($13.99 @ AutoZone) when compared to other options but the reviews are very good and it is noticably larger (depthwise) indicating more media and theroetically better filtration. The review I read stated " The internal construction is the same as the Mobil 1 filter, but it does not filter down to as small a particle size. This filter is meant to maintain higher flow while still actively filtering, as opposed to by-passing."

Sounded good to me and I was impressed enough with the air filter of theirs that came with the engine that I thought I would give one a try. Now I have a matched set.

I just put the same filter on my LT-1 this weekend when I winterized. I must have more disposable income these days because this was the most expensive oil filter I have ever bought. I hope it is worth it.

TMCNo1
10-19-2009, 01:55 PM
NAPA filters are made by WIX according to my supplier. On my first MCX I used MC filters from my dealer but IIRC I found out they were supplied by FRAM? Never did confirm this, but stopped using MC filters.

I originally used the equivalent from NAPA - the Gold 1069. Since then I've switched to the Gold 1060 for more filter area. Here's a shot of them side by side.

Please turn the picture in the right direction, I've got drops of oil on my keyboard now!:rolleyes:

JimN
10-19-2009, 02:49 PM
I just put the same filter on my LT-1 this weekend when I winterized. I must have more disposable income these days because this was the most expensive oil filter I have ever bought. I hope it is worth it.

But it's really good!

uncleboo
10-19-2009, 02:56 PM
FYI: The #3002 K&N Filter is the longer one at 5.7 inches vs. 4.7 inches for #2002.

captain planet
10-19-2009, 03:08 PM
FYI: The #3002 K&N Filter is the longer one at 5.7 inches vs. 4.7 inches for #2002.

Is there room for that on our boats?

uncleboo
10-19-2009, 11:29 PM
Yep, I have been running the 3002 for the last two oil changes. Plenty of room in there for that bigger filter.

captain planet
10-20-2009, 10:29 AM
Yep, I have been running the 3002 for the last two oil changes. Plenty of room in there for that bigger filter.

Thanks for the heads up. I have a coupon for $10 off a $50 purchase so I am going to get my oil change stuff now and save some $$$. I'll get that bigger filter.