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Daniel G.
09-27-2009, 11:36 PM
I am currently in the market for a Mastercraft V-drive. We have looked at a Maristar 210 VRS and an X2 - both have towers. We will be using the boat for recreational skiing, wakeboarding, wakesurfing and as an all around family boat - so we definitely want a V-Drive and are trying to combine the best of all worlds - a great watersports boat with a fun and roomy family boat. A few questions that I would love some feedback on:

1. What do folks like about their Maristars and how do they primarily use them? Same question for X-2 owners? What can't I do with one versus the other?
2. Will we notice any difference between the 310 RTP engine and the 350 MCX? How important is this?
3. I know the X2 has the 205v hull? Will we notice any difference for skiing or wakeboarding between the Maristar 210 hull and the X2 205v hull? Am I splitting hairs?
4. Any other V-drives in the 2004-2006 range that you might recommend?
5. What other factors should we consider (perfect pass, ballasts) that folks have found absolutely essential?

Thanks for sharing your knowledge and opinions. Dan

bturner2
09-28-2009, 08:21 AM
I can only speak from my experience and I'm sure others will have different opinions but here goes.....

For 2005 and older (I believe 2006 was the first year for the pickle fork) you're going to find the X2 will more ski oriented. More of a no nonsense wakeboard boat that has a very good slalom wake too. The MariStar is going to be more family oriented with more of a focus on ride and comfort. Still great wakes and handling just a little dryer and smoother ride. My wife has loved all our MariStars, not so much with the 03 X2 we had for a year. You'll want to sit in both and take a ride with everyone in the both boats if possible to see which one suits you best.

This is a loaded question that keeps hitting the posts. There are those that wouldn't have anything but an MCX. I've been fine with the RTP. If you can find a boat with the MCX I see it as a plus but would be more concerned with condition and price. I've had no complaints with the RTP but others may disagree.

Depending on how you ski and at what line lengths you will see a difference. The X2 is going to be a better skier but to what degree will depend on what kind a skier you are. The MariStar is more of a recreational skier.

In the 20' range you’ve pretty much covered the field. If you're looking to go larger there are other models like the 230.

If you're surfing and wakeboarding you'll want a tower, ballast and Perfect Pass. If you like to listen to music while you ride tower speakers are a must. A stereo that has been upgraded to support MP3 format is also a plus. My boat has a heater and shower that we use in the spring and fall that are nice to have but not essential. If you're going to pull distances a tandem axel trailer is nice to have.

bigmac
09-28-2009, 09:25 AM
The X-10 has a pretty good wake for skiing. This youtube video is one I took from my buddy's 2004 X-10.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSyer5PgHU4

JohnE
09-28-2009, 09:29 AM
The pointy bow X2 will not only have a better ski wake but also a better boarding wake. Look for a boat that already has a tower, ballast, and perfect pass. Those items can add up in a hurry if you decide you want them on a maristar afterward.

Daniel G.
09-28-2009, 10:00 AM
Thanks for the detailed response. I think you have hit on one of my main concerns - while we are not expert waterskiiers, I don't want to regret it later if the lip of the wake is a little high. I just don't know if I will ever notice it - and the family fits well in the Maristar and my wife likes it too. I am sure either will be fine. Does anyone actually have the 2004 Maristar 210 (I coudn't tell if that is exactly what you have, bturner2?

Thanks.

Dan

JohnE
09-28-2009, 10:03 AM
Thanks for the detailed response. I think you have hit on one of my main concerns - while we are not expert waterskiiers, I don't want to regret it later if the lip of the wake is a little high. I just don't know if I will ever notice it - and the family fits well in the Maristar and my wife likes it too. I am sure either will be fine. Does anyone actually have the 2004 Maristar 210 (I coudn't tell if that is exactly what you have, bturner2?

Thanks.

Dan


Um, Maristar210 has one.:cool: PM him, he's never short for an opinion.:D

Witness140
09-28-2009, 10:11 AM
Dan - are you looking at the yellow 210 at Echo Bay? Looked like a nice boat. I only have experience with the pickle fork X2 firsthand. Love my X2. Good for the family, and good for the skiing. I can still ski on the boat, as well as surf, wakeboard, and trick. Not bad for footing either, although I would reprop it if that became a regular occurence.

Love the storage and the ride in rougher water as well.

Maristar210
09-28-2009, 10:31 AM
Um, Maristar210 has one.:cool: PM him, he's never short for an opinion.:D

What are you trying to say John? 8p

Both nice boats IMO. If you need ballast and the stuff that goes with the X2 then get that.

If you want to have more of an all around boat you can take into some chop then the Maristar wins there.

Me? I am not serious enough to care. I just know I like my 210. Had I had a chance to do it over I would have gotten PP right out of the gate along with a heater. I can't count the number of times we went in because the wife and kids were COLD. Heater would have meant one more pass, run, beer or some damn thing....

wake is at 20mph. Fat effer is me last November on our last run of the year.

Maristar210
09-28-2009, 10:38 AM
couple more pix

bigmac
09-28-2009, 10:38 AM
Thanks for the detailed response. I think you have hit on one of my main concerns - while we are not expert waterskiiers, I don't want to regret it later if the lip of the wake is a little high. I just don't know if I will ever notice it - and the family fits well in the Maristar and my wife likes it too. I am sure either will be fine. Does anyone actually have the 2004 Maristar 210 (I coudn't tell if that is exactly what you have, bturner2?

Thanks.

Dan

Again, view the video above from my buddy's X-10. The Maristar 210 and the X-10 are the same boat.

bturner2
09-28-2009, 10:43 AM
I had a 89 TriStar for 6 yeasts, a 95 200VRS for 7 years, the 03 X2 last year and now a 07 MariStar. My personal favorites have been the 95 200VRS and the 07 MariStar. The MariStars just fit my boating life style better although there is very little difference between the new X2 and the MariStar with the X2 package.

The one thing that sunk the 03 X2 for us was the wind shield position on the passenger side. If you were sitting looking at the skier you could rock back and hit your head on the wind shield frame. This happened to my wife while in some rough water which pretty much ended the 03 X2 for us (strange how little things like this can change a women's feelings towards a boat). At any rate it was an easy sell to get the new MariStar.

The new MariStar with it's expansive seating area, comfortable dry ride and long list of features has quickly become our favorite MC. If you can find one in your price range I would highly recommend checking one out.

Maristar210
09-28-2009, 11:11 AM
last one..........

Daniel G.
09-28-2009, 10:10 PM
Thanks for the detailed response. Sounds like you have been in a similar situation. What size engine did you have in the 2003 X-2 and what size in your Maristars? I am wondering if I should get the 350 MCX or if that is just not critical (310 might be enough)? Do you have perfect pass? And, lastly, how do you compare the slalom wakes between the Maristar (is it a 210) and the X-2?

Thanks.

Dan

mccobmd
09-29-2009, 12:47 AM
I have the X1 which is same as 03 x2, RTP plenty of engine for everything you want to do so don't let that be a deal killer. I would prefer the MCX but got too good a deal on the RTP to pass up

bturner2
09-29-2009, 07:34 AM
Every MC I've owned has had the base engine and I've felt that all of them had plenty of power. You have to remember that in this high end tow boat market putting any product out there that is under powered would surely hurt the company's reputation. You can't make that same statement in the I/O runabout market. I honestly can't remember a time (like when I had I/Os) where I thought, gee I really need the bigger engine.

I believe the 89 TriStar had the 240HP Ford 351 which was the standard engine and was plenty power for that boat. The 95 MariStar 200VRS had the standard 275HP, never thought for a moment it was under powered. The 03 X2 had the RTP, no issues with power. The latest 07 MariStar 200 has the stock RTP and again I can't think of a time where I needed more power. Now saying all that if I would have run across any of those boats with the bigger engine option I would have jumped on it. The MCX is really pretty, just didn't come across a good one when I was looking. It seemed like every time I did come across one there was something wrong with the boat that made me pass on it. I personally agree with mccobmd, don't let the RTP be a deal killer on a great boat.

I've had Perfect Pass on the last two boat and it is a must have option for me. If the boat doesn't have it don't sweat it, it's easy enough to add especially on the newer boats. My 03 X2 didn't have it when I bought the boat. I purchased my PP on line and had it installed in about an hour and a half. Other than the servo motor it was pretty much a plug and play installation.

I'm a recreational slalom skier but I know some really good course skiers that I had ski behind both the 03 X2 and the 07 X2. The 03 had the better wake between the two. I've read that the wake plate option on the 07 can really help with the slalom wake but I don't have that option. I skied regularly behind the 07 X2 this summer and didn't really have any problems at 15 off. My complaint would be that there is more spray and the wake itself is rather large for a ski boat.

Maristar210
09-29-2009, 09:36 AM
310 is plenty for me. Never wanted more. Slalom wake is not bad but it's no 197. I like my buddies X-9 a lot as well. Narrower wake is easier for us old fat types to jump. Much better slalom wake but it is an inboard not a V.

No perfect pass for us but it would be nice. Get the HEATER. Have it added as a deal at the end of negotiations, you wont be sorry.

Good luck.....

Daniel G.
10-02-2009, 06:24 PM
Thanks to everyone for your input and guidance. We have made our decision - we went with the X-2 and are thrilled. Now we start counting the days until spring!

Dan

ttu
10-02-2009, 06:39 PM
congrats on the purchase:toast:

now make sure you post a pic of the boat.

Jerseydave
10-02-2009, 08:11 PM
Nice choice on the X-2 and congrats! What color is the boat/ which engine?
I've done alot of wakeboarding behind my buddy's X-1 and the wake is great! It should make a good slalom wake as well, just not prostar size.

These are cool boats...............

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