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Mosaic13
06-06-2005, 06:31 PM
The one response I got on the general board suggested a good waxing afterward. Is that all I need to do or is using this soap a bad idea?


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Trailered my 210 yesterday after a total of four days in the water over two weeks. When I went to wash it I had this nasty dark "ring around the boat" that the RV & boat soap the dealership sold me didn't even touch. It was obviously oil based (my dock is near the marina) so my wife suggested Dawn dishwashing liquid. Melted it right off with virtually no effort. Is this kind of soap in any way damaging to the gel coat if used repeatedly? How sensitive is the skin anyway.

east tx skier
06-06-2005, 06:42 PM
I've always used a mild detergent, like Tide, and warm water. It doesn't take much. For the stubborn stains, I'm told Sno-Bowl toilet cleaner works wonders. Good wax afterwards, of course.

lakes Rick
06-06-2005, 07:09 PM
dish or laundry detergent will remove wax... A good car wash it recommended....

east tx skier
06-07-2005, 12:50 PM
I guess I should've added that I just use damp towels unless I'm going to wax it afterwards. Mid-season waxing happens tomorrow night for me.

Mosaic13
06-07-2005, 01:22 PM
Thanks. My wax is definitely ready to go. Now all I need is my boat back from the shop. Hopefully not more than a week.

Mosaic13
06-14-2005, 01:56 PM
Ok...forget about the dish soap. Tried one of your suggestions (Star Brite Hull Cleaner...can get it at Wal-Mart) on my old Wave Runner. That stuff is AWESOME for getting the lake junk off of fiberglass. Gets it good and clean before waxing. Highly recommended. Thanks!!!

brady1022
06-15-2005, 05:56 PM
starbrite works great...dishsoap won't hurt at all, and yes the snowbowl is amazing, if you're careful, clorox-cleanup on white hulls is amazing as well...obviously needs waxing after all of these. anyone hvae any comments on using teflon wax? -brady

erkoehler
06-15-2005, 06:10 PM
Meguiars car wash for me....

AirJunky
06-15-2005, 06:18 PM
All dish soap or the car wash will remove is the initial dirt & dust. The Starbrite will actually remove the funk that grows on the hull when you keep it on the lake. It makes the white hull white again, actually removes the waterline.
I usually follow the Starbrite with a regular wash, rinse & wax.
I've never used the toilet bowl cleaner but would be hesitant because it's designed for porcelain & not fiberglass. I'd expect the bleach to work as well as the Starbrite but have never used it. Just seemed smart to use something actually designed for the marine fiberglass application.

LakePirate
06-15-2005, 06:23 PM
sno-bol is

Hydrochloric Acid
Description
Hydrochloric acid (CAS# 7647-01-0), or hydrogen chloride, is either a colorless liquid with a pungent odor, or a colorless to slightly yellow gas which can be shipped as a liquefied compressed gas. It is used in the manufacture of phosphoric acid, chlorine dioxide, ammonium chloride, fertilizers, dyes, and artificial silk and pigments for paints. It is used as a refining ore in the production of tin and tantalum, as a lab reagent, and as a metal treating agent. It is used to remove scale and dust from boilers and heat exchange equipment, to clean membranes in desalination plants, to increase oil well output, to prepare synthetic rubber products by treating isoprene, and to clean and prepare other metals for coatings. It is used in the neutralization of waste streams, the recovery of zinc from galvanized iron scrap, the production of chloride chemicals, the production of vinyl chloride from acetylene and alkyl chlorides from olefins, the manufacture of sodium glutamate and gelatin, the conversion of cornstarch to syrup, sugar refining, electroplating, soap refining, leather tanning, and the photographic, textile, brewing, and rubber industries. It is used as an antiseptic in toilet bowls against animal pathogenic bacteria, and in food processing as a starch modifier.


Now you can make an informed decision.
At least about the sno bol

ajgressette
06-16-2005, 08:19 AM
Soaps with the lowest ph are best. Like shampoo, car and boat soap. The best lake funk remover I have ever used is called FRS by a company named Davis. Some lakes have heavy metal ie: iron, rust. :twocents:

H20skeefreek
06-19-2005, 11:33 PM
FSR- fiberglass stain remover. It's oxalic acid, great stuff.

BG1772
06-20-2005, 08:35 AM
For the really nasty funk, I've found that "the works" tub and shower cleaner works great. The best wax I have found is called "Dolphinite". I've done a test with putting a small amount of dolphinite on the hull and then cleaning the area with the works and found that the wax was still there. Other waxes were removed by the works.

atlfootr
04-16-2006, 06:30 PM
For the stubborn stains, I'm told Sno-Bowl toilet cleaner works wonders. Good wax afterwards, of course.I may of been the one who said it, "SNO-BOL frigg'n ROCKS" :friday:
I just finished the port side of my BF200, I'm go'n back outside to take a digital pic, (for the MC TT Brd ppl.)
of a BEFORE and AFTER!

Other than mere chemical burn'n on my arms, :rant: final end results are sensational! :uglyhamme
Starboard Side :(

atlfootr
04-16-2006, 07:20 PM
I may of been the one who said it, "SNO-BOL frigg'n ROCKS" :friday:
I just finished the port side of my BF200, I'm go'n back outside to take a digital pic,
(for the MC TT Brd ppl.) of a BEFORE and AFTER!

Other than mere chemical burn'n on my arms,. the results are sensational! :uglyhammePort Side :)

TMCNo1
04-16-2006, 08:38 PM
Maybe I'm too late into this thread, but I have used Dawn dishwashing detergent since it came on the market, on all my vehicles, with no adverse effects. If you use a good quality paste wax you will notice no difference in the performance of your wax. Over the years I have tried car wash soap but they just don't produce the suds Dawn does and will not cut road grease and grime. One thing to keep in mind too is, if you use dish washing soap, only use the kinds you can see through. Ivory and some others have a pearlesent look to them that will, over time cut your finish.

jeverett
04-17-2006, 04:31 PM
Maybe I'm too late into this thread, but I have used Dawn dishwashing detergent since it came on the market, on all my vehicles, with no adverse effects. If you use a good quality paste wax you will notice no difference in the performance of your wax. Over the years I have tried car wash soap but they just don't produce the suds Dawn does and will not cut road grease and grime. One thing to keep in mind too is, if you use dish washing soap, only use the kinds you can see through. Ivory and some others have a pearlesent look to them that will, over time cut your finish.


Gentelmen Please don't confuse the kitchen with the garage. Dish soap cuts grease because it has a very high pH and will also remove wax. If you need to clean scum off the Hull with out stripping all the wax a mild acid cleaner like Star-Brite and the like will work. Of couse frequent waxing is always a good idea. Most car washes and boat washes are pH balanced to not strip wax! but will not remove the heavy stains, that is why most companies will also sell a mild acid hull cleaner. Keep in mind that the suds although nice do not clean the grime off, it is the "surface active agents" in the wash that trap and remove the dirt and grime.