My 2007 Tournament Team pulls hard to the right. Is this normal?

[2007TT]

I'm assuming it's designed that way for private lakes and tight turning radius?!

The rudder is shaved on the right side but I'm assuming this is by design. They've taken about 1/8 inch off all the way down and it looks machined.

Is there any way to even this out so it tracks straight?!

Thanks,

Rick-

[bigmac]

Shave down the LEFT side.

[flipper]

It pulls to the right to make it easier to keep strait. You can shave the left side of the rudder so it won't pull. Search around on here. There are a few threads on it

[2007TT]

Hummmm....we ski course as well. However, I'm more concerned about letting go of the wheel when we're not in the course. If we start shaving it down I'm assuming it'll still track ok in the course??

I'll look for some other threads out there. Thanks for the help.

[flipper]

It will track fine, but be harder to keep strait. I'd leave it alone, you'll get use to it

[Sodar]

http://mastercraft.com/teamtalk/showpost.php?p=107070&postcount=12

[2007TT]

Thanks. btw - the 2007TT has a lot ground out along the whole back side of the rudder. Will take a pic when I'm back up there in two weeks. It goes from the top of the rudder to the bottom so the boat pulls hard....really hard.

I saw the posting of the pic in the other thread and it looks very small compared to mine.

Hummm....

[TX.X-30 fan]

Does it track straight in the course with pressure on the wheel.

[2007TT]

No different that my old boat.

Maybe I'll just have to get used to it! =] I'm not crazy about modifying the rudder. Just want to know if the rudder design is that drastic on all TTs.

Sorry, wish I had a picture.....you'd see what I mean.

[TMCNo1]

Must have been previously owned by a Republican, leave it as it is, you don't want change!http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/36/36_19_1.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZSfox000)

[bigmac]

Sorry, wish I had a picture.....you'd see what I mean.

Anything like this?

http://mccollister.info/ruddershave2.jpg

http://mccollister.info/ruddershave.JPG

[wheeler]

I installed the '06 rudder on my X-10. After many lake tests trying to get this beast to drive right I have come to the following conclusions and agree with everyone else.

1. Try to get used to the boat pulling to the right as is.
2. If you decide to grind the left side, do it in very slight increments.

You may find that grinding the left side will give you that neutral steering but you may also find that a neutral feeling wheel to be more annoying than a pull to the right. I say this from experience. You will end up having a "neutral wobble" where the boat is waving back and forth at a certain speed/rpm. For me it was at 3000rpm. I could not keep the boat straght due to it wandereing from left to right.

This is on an X-10, your experiences may differ slightly

I ended up grinding the very back edge back to stock, re-filing the right trailing edge to get a slight pull to the right.

Take a file to the water with you, go early in the morning where you can leave you trailer in the water. Load in and out in between slight adjustments and take for a quick spin....

[ejg333]

My 02 PTT pulls to the right also I didnt shave the rudder. i just got used to it and I'm glad I left it alone. my .02

[rodltg2]

if you do use it in the course , you would be a fool to neutralize it. I guess not too many people who wonder why their boats pull to the right are too famliar with physics!

[JohnE]

Cool, Rod's giving physics lessons.:D Spelling and Grammar after lunch.:D

To answer the question the TT boats do not come standard pulling to the right. But I imagine every one has had the rudder shaved by the first owner to make it easier to track through the course.

[jwroblew]

I thought TT boat came standared with the ground rudder and also with the tiller arm moved in about 1/2".

[JohnE]

I thought TT boat came standared with the ground rudder and also with the tiller arm moved in about 1/2".

You might be right.....I don't know why I assumed they didn't.

[ncsone]

I thought TT boat came standared with the ground rudder and also with the tiller arm moved in about 1/2".

I can not speak about the tiller arm being shorter, but all TT rudders from 06 on came from the factory with a bevel on the STBD trailing edge to give it a firm pull to the right.

[east tx skier]

Previous owner neutered my rudder on my new boat to the point that taking back to a solid load would require, in my opinion, removing too much from the other side. It's going to cost me a nice bit of change to update my rudder with an adjustable, tabbed rudder.

I think you will get used to it and won't want it any other way. As for open water, don't let go of the wheel at speed. :)

[André]

Cool, Rod's giving physics lessons.:D Spelling and Grammar after lunch.:D

U o me a new kboard...:D

[Witness140]

New TT rudder did become standard in 2006.

The bevel creates a pre-load on the steering wheel which aids in centerline tracking in the slalom course.

I've owned an 06 TT, 07 TT, and spent a lot of time driving/skiing the 08' TT. Drove my boats back to back with a neutral SN206 and Bu' Response LX. The pre-load on the TT boats makes maintaining course centerline much easier. Boat feels so much better with the pre-load.

If you don't care about centerline deviation - and by care, I mean maintaining a boat path within a 6" tolerance or preferably better, then a neutral boat might be for you. Everyone has a different goal in the sport. Driving for guys and gals 35 off and beyond, you better not be weaving around. It's not enough just to get the boat somewhere between the guides. As the line gets shorter, these skiers can feel a driver that near sides them by a couple inches. A neutral boat can be a real pain in the arse because it does that wobble thing someone else mentions. A neutral boat will kinda wobble back and forth in the course, and you have to make bigger inputs on the wheel to produce results - and that leads to more wandering. It's like a dead zone around center. The SN206 owner is a 15 off skier that cant run more than 2 bouys at 34mph on a good day, so he completely thinks the pre-load is a joke, because he has no perspective being at the end of a short rope at 36mph trying to run a full pass. The Malibu guy is a 32' off 34mph skier that occasionally runs into 35' off. He doesn't like gadgets, is a bit old school, and believes there are much bigger things he needs to worry about than small centerline deviations. I kinda like to have everything stacked in my favor, and I've watched the foam trail through the boat guides on the SN and Bu' here - and really felt bad for the poor guy behind the boat....especially when you see the centerline foam within 2 ft of a guide. Poor skier just went from 22' off to 24' off - not to mention the swing effect.

Here's photos of my 06' and 07' TT 197 rudders, in order. Completely stock.