Got some info from the Boat surveyor

[5280Hawk]

So i heard back from the guy surveying the 02 x-star Im about to buy.


Here's what he said



"The boat started easily and ran well; 37 knots (43 mph) at wide open throttle. Engine hour meter shows 69 hours. The portside exhaust riser was about 30 degrees hotter than starboard with engine at idle after the high speed run, oil pressure as shown on the gauge seems low, exhaust hoses are pliable. The hull is in good condition with no marks on the bottom, no stress cracks noted at tower feet, propeller has one small bend on one edge, one scratch about 18" long on the portside near the bow, The decals on the sides are loose around the bottom edges. The stereo receiver lights up but makes no sound. The upholstery is stained, speedometer not operating, Perfect Pass appears to be operating, portside ballast pump will pump water out but not in, bilge pump works. It is hard to determine if water has accumulated in the bow because there is no access to that area. The trailer is in bad condition, with a lot of large rust holes in the tubular frame components."


I already knew about the trailer, and the Dealer agreed to repair or replace it.


So should i be worried? I know it's a 7 year old boat, and there will be things inherently wrong. I just want to know if any of these are deal breakers, or can most of it be easily fixed. Thanks!

[JimN]

Have them replace the impeller and run it again. The two sides will probably be closer in temperature. Ask for some kind of warranty- if the exhaust hoses are more flexible than normal, it may have been overheated. Also, the 69 hours may be less than the actual operating hours. Have them connect it to a diagnostic computer and gather data. The standard data sets are taken at key ON, engine OFF/Idle/2000RPM and WOT. The actual engine run time will also be shown, as well as any overheats within 300 key On cycles. 69 hours sounds very low for a 7 year old boat.

[brucemac]

hey jim, what would reset the hours on the tach? an ECM replacement? just curious is all. i bought my 03 with only 63 hours on it last april.

[JimN]

As far as I know, the MDC box didn't get info from the ECM, so replacing the MDC is one way to reset the hours. Another way is to replace or wipe the ECM. Other than that, it would be hard to show something other than actual hours.

63 hours on a 5 year old boat is less than 13 hours/year and to me, it wasn't worth it for the previous owner to even buy it in the first place. I did have a customer who was just too busy to use the Regal he bought from us- it only had 5 hours on it between summerizing and winterizing.

[5280Hawk]

The Dealer is not a MC dealer, should they still be able to do the diagnostic?

If it did overheat is that a big issue? I noticed on the photos of the engine the Exhaust manifolds had some slight rust, but not terrible.

Why does the temperature difference occur? and what does it mean?

What about the Oil pressure being low......?

Im new at this if you didn't Notice, and i've been waiting the better part of 2 years to get a boat so at the last minute im really nervous.

Thanks for your help Jim!~

[5280Hawk]

anyone's input is a help,

Thanks!

[russlars]

As far as I know, the MDC box didn't get info from the ECM, so replacing the MDC is one way to reset the hours.
The MDC control may be different on my '99, but when I replaced my MDC control module it did not change the engine hours displayed on the meter in the tachometer.

[JimN]

The MDC control may be different on my '99, but when I replaced my MDC control module it did not change the engine hours displayed on the meter in the tachometer.

The tach may still use the ignition switched purple lead, then. Also, '99 is the first year they used these gauges.

[JimN]

The Dealer is not a MC dealer, should they still be able to do the diagnostic?

If it did overheat is that a big issue? I noticed on the photos of the engine the Exhaust manifolds had some slight rust, but not terrible.

Why does the temperature difference occur? and what does it mean?

What about the Oil pressure being low......?

Im new at this if you didn't Notice, and i've been waiting the better part of 2 years to get a boat so at the last minute im really nervous.

Thanks for your help Jim!~

What do they sell? If they sell Malibu or Supra/Moomba, they should be able to plug it in since these others use Indmar engines.

[Thrall]

No deal breakersas long as you find out how many hrs are really on the boat.
My take from your short description is that if it in fact only has 69hrs, it's been rode hard and put up wet, literally. Almost guarantee that it's been beat on.
If it has alot more hrs than that, you're dealing with someone who's lying about the hrs on their boat. ANd either case the boat hasn't been maintained and kept up very well. What else are they hiding?
As long as you''re getting it for a really good price given it's cosmetic appearance and problems, go ahead. Otherwise, don't get too jumpy for a boat. There's ALOT of boats for sale right now.

Like Jim said, one cyl bank running hotter than the other = water circ problems and exhaust hoses pliable = overheated before (or a ton of hours).

[5280Hawk]

I dont' have any idea what the dealer actually sells, because they're a Yacht Dealer, Sea Rays mostly.

I think they got this boat as a trade.

http://www.lauderdaleyachtsales.com/

Im getting it for 25K BTW.

I have to think that the hours are accurate. even though the Surveyor says the upholstery is stained, the upholstery and carpet look perfect in the photos, the teak looks like its never even been wet, and the Hull is really glossy.

Doesn't mean it didn't get overheated at some point, or that it didn't sit around for a long time.

[KnoxX2]

I think for that kind of money you can do better!!!!