Best MC for Barefooting?

[Barefooter92]

Guys

I am starting to look for my first MC, a good used boat as I am on the Ramsey plan!

I am a rusty barefooter at best or should I say out of my prime. I have been told the '98 Prostar model will porpoise at high speeds because of the hull is an attempt at a three event hull. I have also had the same issues with the X-10 hull.

What prostar model and year with an open bow is the best for barefooting?

[03 35th Anniversary]

I use an 03 Prostar 197.

It does great for me on long line and off the boom.... But I'm a rusty barefooter at best also!!!

[Chicago190]

What prostar model and year with an open bow is the best for barefooting?

There was a year or two in the 90s that Mastercraft made an outboard, open bow barefoot boat, but I bet they are difficult to find.

[woftam]

Powerstar 200, and they are somewhat difficult to find.

[barefoot]

Barefoot 200, in my opinion. They're quick to plane off and have a nice top end. It's been about 2 years since I've footed behind one so I don't remember what the trough or table's like. But the best barefooting boat isn't an MC...it's a Sanger.

[woftam]

He was looking for an open bow boat.
BF 200 is closed.

[panshovel68]

I bought a 1990 ps 190. Ive footed behind three of them and I cant complain at all. I hear the bf200 is a great boat to foot behind also, but I like to ski too so I didnt get one of those. I have been looking at the x7 anyone foot behind 1 of those?

[Rockman]

The BF200 is a great MC for footing. Not that I would know first hand or anything but...:rolleyes:

There is only one MC that I footed off of that I did not like due to excessive side spray and that was an X9.

Otherwise, any PS 190 or 197 should do the trick but the best table is from a BF200.

I am not really a fan of Sanger's but have seen a few here and there...

RM

[Rockman]

I bought a 1990 ps 190. Ive footed behind three of them and I cant complain at all. I hear the bf200 is a great boat to foot behind also, but I like to ski too so I didnt get one of those. I have been looking at the x7 anyone foot behind 1 of those?


Yes, JR had an X-7 and it was pretty sweet. Only drawback was that it could have used a few more ponies for double longlines...or should I say triples!:D

[panshovel68]

Yes, JR had an X-7 and it was pretty sweet. Only drawback was that it could have used a few more ponies for double longlines...or should I say triples!:D

Bummer, gotta have the ponies. Thats one of the reasons I repowerd with 315hp, doule bridge start!

[Rockman]

Bummer, gotta have the ponies!


The MCX was good but if that X7 would have had the new LY6, then that would have been awesome!



I know of 2 BF200s currently for sale and both are in great shape.

[Footin]

My 91 BF200 was the best barefoot wake for a MC I have footed behind.

My 94 205 is darn good, but not as good as the 200.

[2RLAKE]

my '02 197 TT with a LQ9 and power slot was incredible ... pulled quads no problem. Also could pull me (200 lbs) and my little 275 lbs buddy 47 mph ... you have just got to love 385 HP

[woftam]

I have a BF 200, and appreciate the votes for the model, but the OP is asking for the best open bow MC for barefooting...

[duckguy]

Buy Mine

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trkparms=tab%3DSelling&item=200337186454&viewitem=#ht_500wt_1612

[BriEOD]

There was a year or two in the 90s that Mastercraft made an outboard, open bow barefoot boat, but I bet they are difficult to find.

98-99 I think. The PowerStar 200. Awesome boat.

[C36]

98-99 I think. The PowerStar 200. Awesome boat.

1998 PowerStar 200 (open bow)
46689
46685
46686

1993 Barefoot 200 (closed bow)
46687
46688

To view the MasterCraft brochures for these two model years click here (http://www.tmcowners.com/teamtalk/showthread.php?t=20953).

[jeff shelton]

There is a powerstar200 listed forsale on barefootcentral.com. They are asking $35000.00 which seems to be extremely high. Not sure if it is still available. It has been listed for a long time. I think it might have been listed in the marketplace here for awhile.
Early model 205 (94,95) is probably the best as far a wake and spray. A little under powered if you are a bigger guy but will do just fine. 197 (X&7) wake not as good for footin and needs boom extension for spray of the side of the boat. It just depends on how much you want to spend $10000 to 15000 for an older 205 or around $25000 for an early model 197 or X7. LQ9 or LY6 is the best motor options if you are wanting it mainly for a barefoot boat. It will just cost you more to get it.

[barefoot]

Buy Mine

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trkparms=tab%3DSelling&item=200337186454&viewitem=#ht_500wt_1612



I just through a bunch of bids on it...It appears that I was out bid ;)

[jeff shelton]

Buy Mine

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trkparms=tab%3DSelling&item=200337186454&viewitem=#ht_500wt_1612

Nice boat if I didn't have 2 MC's already I might would be interested. 3 MC's in the garage if 03 35th is hanging around anyone. He is 6mths overdue on storage fees. I think by Tenn law that I maybe able to put a lein on it. So it may be on the market.

[barefoot]

I have a BF 200, and appreciate the votes for the model, but the OP is asking for the best open bow MC for barefooting...


I still think the bf200 is the way to go for a barefooting boat. if he wants an open bow, Jeff's got it covered. It comes down to how much he's willing to spend.


There is a powerstar200 listed forsale on barefootcentral.com. They are asking $35000.00 which seems to be extremely high. Not sure if it is still available. It has been listed for a long time. I think it might have been listed in the marketplace here for awhile.
Early model 205 (94,95) is probably the best as far a wake and spray. A little under powered if you are a bigger guy but will do just fine. 197 (X&7) wake not as good for footin and needs boom extension for spray of the side of the boat. It just depends on how much you want to spend $10000 to 15000 for an older 205 or around $25000 for an early model 197 or X7. LQ9 or LY6 is the best motor options if you are wanting it mainly for a barefoot boat. It will just cost you more to get it.

[jeff shelton]

I still think the bf200 is the way to go for a barefooting boat. if he wants an open bow, Jeff's got it covered. It comes down to how much he's willing to spend.

I had the opportunity once to foot behind a BF200 but didn't my friend did. I'm glad I didn't the guy couldn't drive. My friend took a beating. I laughed as I watched and drank beer.

[barefoot]

Buy Mine

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trkparms=tab%3DSelling&item=200337186454&viewitem=#ht_500wt_1612



PS, why did you put it under "Part and Accessories" under "Covers"? No body's gonna find it under that category. I don't know...why don't you put it under "Ski/Wakeboarding Boats?"

[DVLISH]

I have a 06 x7 with a MCX in it, fantastic boat for footing, pulls to heavy footers out with ease, and at about 44mph minimal wash and spray:)

[Footin]

The VRS200 is a nice barefoot boat also.

[03 35th Anniversary]

Bummer, gotta have the ponies. Thats one of the reasons I repowerd with 315hp, doule bridge start!

Thats what I say!!!

[03 35th Anniversary]

Nice boat if I didn't have 2 MC's already I might would be interested. 3 MC's in the garage if 03 35th is hanging around anyone. He is 6mths overdue on storage fees. I think by Tenn law that I maybe able to put a lein on it. So it may be on the market.

I paid your wife!!!

She told me she bought a new Lap-Top with the money!!!

[sizzler]

if you dont mind a closed bow....go with the BF200........i had mine for 10 yrs.....exchanged it for my X9 when the kids were young....wish i had kept it...it was that good

[h2oskifreak]

There is a mid 80's M.C. with a big block on Craigslist in Denver for 8K if I remember right. Saw it last evening for what it's worth.

[jeff shelton]

I paid your wife!!!

She told me she bought a new Lap-Top with the money!!!

Careful with the LapTop joke. If I remember correctly Miss O3 35th bought the same Laptop.

[03 35th Anniversary]

Careful with the LapTop joke. If I remember correctly Miss 03 35th bought the same Laptop.

You mean Ex-Miss. 03 35th......


So this means were square on the the storage fees right????

[jeff shelton]

You mean Ex-Miss. 03 35th......


So this means were square on the the storage fees right????

Just depends on how much beer you show up with on the 4th of July.

[JLeuck64]

Guys

I am starting to look for my first MC, a good used boat as I am on the Ramsey plan!

I am a rusty barefooter at best or should I say out of my prime. I have been told the '98 Prostar model will porpoise at high speeds because of the hull is an attempt at a three event hull. I have also had the same issues with the X-10 hull.

What prostar model and year with an open bow is the best for barefooting?

Well I have a 98 PS190 with a closed bow and I can say it does not porpoise!

I would say if you want to be practical, just find a model that has the highest HP engine you can afford, with the graphics that you like too! Get a pair of barefoot trainers while your getting yourself back into shape. There is a lot you can do in the curl, or off a boom, before the quality of the wake becomes an issue...

[atlfootr]

Powerstar 200, and they are somewhat difficult to find.
I found one for the guy and I'm guessing it's still for sale, the site I found it on isn't all that great for updating SOLD boats.
Your welcome. :D

1998 Powerstar 200
Price: $35,000 OBO

Robbie Guimond ctkiteboarding@aol.com
Westport, CT
Detailed Description Mint tower boom top of the line accessories, trailer, custom cover custom bimini, 600 watts w sub and tower set up, perfect pass, ballest for wakeboarding.

[03 35th Anniversary]

I found one for the guy, wasn't the hard 8p
Your welcome. :D


1998 Powerstar 200 - Westport, CT
Price: $35,000 OBO


That thing has been for sale for along time... For $35,000 it will probably be for sale for long time still......

[Sodar]

I found one for the guy, wasn't the hard 8p I'm guess'n it's still for sale, the site I found it on idn't all that great for updating SOLD boats.
Your welcome. :D

Yes, you have found quite a boat! Nothing like a salt dog that is listed for 2 times it's actual value!

Keep looking, Rob.

[atlfootr]

Agreed O3 35, way over priced. Previous post said they were hard to find, mine showed their out there if you know where to look.

I know you were looking for an OP bow, but if you could sacrifice an open for a closed go w/ a Barefoot 200! I've had mine over 6 years and would not sell it for anything, best barefoot boat ever made hands down.

These are more readily available and easier to find, here's a link to three of 'em.
http://store.barefootcentral.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWCATS&Category=63

[Hollywood]

TriStar with a big block (or even a hot small block) or a 205 with an LT1?

[ctkiteboarding]

Yes, you have found quite a boat! Nothing like a salt dog that is listed for 2 times it's actual value!

Keep looking, Rob.
man your a tough crowd:rolleyes:,, the boat is still for sale , don't really want to sell it but if i get close to the # of course id let her go,,

whats funny is lots of guys say they are around if ya no where to look ,,, find me one , just one ,other then mine , just one,

so my asking price is 2x the value ,your saying its a 17500 boat? kind in the same price as a barefoot 200 which is a diffierent animal all together,, so ill say again find me one for 17500:)
no hard feeling just looking for another to compare with

[Chicago190]

man your a tough crowd:rolleyes:,, the boat is still for sale , don't really want to sell it but if i get close to the # of course id let her go,,

whats funny is lots of guys say they are around if ya no where to look ,,, find me one , just one ,other then mine , just one,

so my asking price is 2x the value ,your saying its a 17500 boat? kind in the same price as a barefoot 200 which is a diffierent animal all together,, so ill say again find me one for 17500:)
no hard feeling just looking for another to compare with

Here is a post from 2005: http://www.mastercraft.com/teamtalk/showthread.php?t=2636

So your price is probably way above market, because 4 years ago you were above market.

[ctkiteboarding]

Here is a post from 2005: http://www.mastercraft.com/teamtalk/showthread.php?t=2636

So your price is probably way above market, because 4 years ago you were above market. i know im up in price but what market? i still cant seem to find another currently for sale how about you?

[ctkiteboarding]

Here is a post from 2005: http://www.mastercraft.com/teamtalk/showthread.php?t=2636

So your price is probably way above market, because 4 years ago you were above market.
the Washington boat had a rebuilt motor that blew twice, i spoke with him back then it sold quickly even with the motor issues and no trailer i had scott from samsonsports go and see it in person , he didn't like it at all very rough looking, it stayed in the water all season since he bought it and it showed ,mine has been kept on a lift and in a garage w/ a brand new trailer,,

the 26k boat also sold quickly id say 25k to 30k might be what it takes to buy it from the current owner, i found one in england w a suzuki at 26k euro, also one in mexico for 20k but getting it up north was another 5k and a huge PITA also it had a 150hp , its sold a well their was a hull in LI without power and a windshield for 10k really beat id say IF you can find one you might be able to get it for 25k barebones

[Chicago190]

i know im up in price but what market? i still cant seem to find another currently for sale how about you?

No, you have a rare boat, but for $35k you could buy a 1 year old Sanger with a warranty, instead of an 11 year old salt water boat. You have outpriced the used boat market in general.

[Chicago190]

the Washington boat had a rebuilt motor that blew twice, i spoke with him back then it sold quickly even with the motor issues and no trailer i had scott from samsonsports go and see it in person , he didn't like it at all very rough looking, it stayed in the water all season since he bought it and it showed ,mine has been kept on a lift and in a garage w/ a brand new trailer,,

the 26k boat also sold quickly id say 25k to 30k might be what it takes to buy it from the current owner, i found one in england w a suzuki at 26k euro, also one in mexico for 20k but getting it up north was another 5k and a huge PITA also it had a 150hp , its sold a well their was a hull in LI without power and a windshield for 10k really beat id say IF you can find one you might be able to get it for 25k barebones

So basically you've admitted that your boat is priced 10-15k higher than similar boats were selling for a year ago. My guess is luxury items (i.e. barefoot boats) are not hot sellers in the current economy. If you think your boat is priced correctly I'm not going to argue, but the fact is you've had it for sale for a year.

[ctkiteboarding]

So basically you've admitted that your boat is priced 10-15k higher than similar boats were selling for a year ago. My guess is luxury items (i.e. barefoot boats) are not hot sellers in the current economy. Sodar's rough estimate of your boat being work 18k isn't too far off.

sorry not arguing with anyone just looking into the facts and looking for another powerstar200

yes my boat is up their and ive said time and time again that don't really want to sell it but if i get a close offer i would,

ive been looking for theses boats for several years and yes the 18k price would be spot on if you could actually find and buy one, still i ask , find one just one ,clean and equipped similar to mine or to the 26k one ( which is mint ,mint, mint with custom colors),, the 2 beat ones are not an option for most guys , no one wants a junk, show me just one ,,, i cant find it

[Chicago190]

yes my boat is up their and ive said time and time again that don't really want to sell it but if i get a close offer i would,

ive been looking for theses boats for several years and yes the 18k price would be spot on if you could actually find and buy one, still i ask , find one just one ,clean and equipped similar to mine or to the 26k one ( which is mint ,mint, mint with custom colors),, the 2 beat ones are not an option for most guys , no one wants a junk, show me just one ,,, i cant find it

Yes, in my first post I said Powerstars are rare, so it is tough to find them for sale.

FYI NADA lists your boat at $10,355.

[woftam]

sorry not arguing with anyone just looking into the facts and looking for another powerstar200

yes my boat is up their and ive said time and time again that don't really want to sell it but if i get a close offer i would,

ive been looking for theses boats for several years and yes the 18k price would be spot on if you could actually find and buy one, still i ask , find one just one ,clean and equipped similar to mine or to the 26k one ( which is mint ,mint, mint with custom colors),, the 2 beat ones are not an option for most guys , no one wants a junk, show me just one ,,, i cant find it

Not going to tell where, but I know an owner of a very clean version who has his OB serviced at the same marina an me. He's said he'll sell it to me in a yr or two, as his kids will then be on their own. Price will be well less than half what you are asking. No significant upgrades. Just a very clean, original equipment model in a good color scheme.

In the meantime, I have my BF 200 project boat.

FWIW

[ctkiteboarding]

Not going to tell where, but I know an owner of a very clean version who has his OB serviced at the same marina an me. He's said he'll sell it to me in a yr or two, as his kids will then be on their own. Price will be well less than half what you are asking. No significant upgrades. Just a very clean, original equipment model in a good color scheme.

In the meantime, I have my BF 200 project boat.

FWIW ahhh a hidden diamond, and i see why u would hide it from us folk so 15k he is asking ? why havent u bought it yet? ohh the kids got it

[ctkiteboarding]

Yes, in my first post I said Powerstars are rare, so it is tough to find them for sale.

FYI NADA lists your boat at $10,355. yes ive ck the nada thats with out power

[east tx skier]

This is an argument I've seen over and over. And from what I've seen, a boat is worth exactly as much as two people agree that it is worth. A buyer is entitled to ask whatever he wants for what he owns. It may be unreasonable, but not if someone buys it. But until they do, it's something that hasn't sold. In our current economy, there's a lot that hasn't sold.

I've got a rare closed bow (remember those). I'll sell it for $75,000. In other words, I don't want to sell it. But that's the price. It's rare afterall.

[ctkiteboarding]

This is an argument I've seen over and over. And from what I've seen, a boat is worth exactly as much as two people agree that it is worth. A buyer is entitled to ask whatever he wants for what he owns. It may be unreasonable, but not if someone buys it. But until they do, it's something that hasn't sold. In our current economy, there's a lot that hasn't sold.

I've got a rare closed bow (remember those). I'll sell it for $75,000. In other words, I don't want to sell it. But that's the price. It's rare afterall.

u hit the nail on the head ,every part but the argument part , as an owner if i wanted to sell this boat 18k would send it down the river so to speak ,,,,

my question still stands , find me another clean powerstar , just 1 and not one that the guy will sell in a few years after his kids decide they don't want it just one clean powerstar

[east tx skier]

I wasn't arguing with you. If you can get $35k for it, by all means, get it. And I don't argue that it's rare. I haven't bothered to look for one, but I can't say that I've seen more than maybe 3 or 4 for sale since I started paying attention around six years ago.

Rare adds value if its the kind of thing someone is willing to pay for. I don't know what kind of market there is for an open bow barefoot boat. You're looking for a barefooter that either (1) has more than three friends, or (2) someone was willing to start a family with. Your buyer may be more rare than the boat itself. ;)

But seriously, the boat you have is rare because it was only made for a couple of years and, I gather, not a lot of them were ordered. Their popularity was limited to a select group that appreciated their use as a family friendly barefoot boat. I think that carries forward in limiting the prospective buyers eleven years later.

That's not meant as an insult to your boat. It is rare and it appears that you and its previous owner(s) have cared for it. But barefooters, probably more than or similar to slalom skiers (and that may be generous), are in the minority of boat buyers these days, at least to the degree that they would buy a barefoot specific boat.

Good luck with your sale.

[ctkiteboarding]

I wasn't arguing with you. If you can get $35k for it, by all means, get it. And I don't argue that it's rare. I haven't bothered to look for one, but I can't say that I've seen more than maybe 3 or 4 for sale since I started paying attention around six years ago.

Rare adds value if its the kind of thing someone is willing to pay for. I don't know what kind of market there is for an open bow barefoot boat. You're looking for a barefooter that either (1) has more than three friends, or (2) someone was willing to start a family with. Your buyer may be more rare than the boat itself. ;)

But seriously, the boat you have is rare because it was only made for a couple of years and, I gather, not a lot of them were ordered. Their popularity was limited to a select group that appreciated their use as a family friendly barefoot boat. I think that carries forward in limiting the prospective buyers eleven years later.

That's not meant as an insult to your boat. It is rare and it appears that you and its previous owner(s) have cared for it. But barefooters, probably more than or similar to slalom skiers (and that may be generous), are in the minority of boat buyers these days, at least to the degree that they would buy a barefoot specific boat.

Good luck with your sale. excellent response i appreciate a level headed opinion im not really looking to part with it but thanks for the good luck

[Ramhouse]

i have a 93 prostar 190 for sale

[shepherd]

I've got a rare closed bow (remember those). I'll sell it for $75,000. In other words, I don't want to sell it. But that's the price. It's rare afterall.

Before you guys bite on this deal, I suggest you look at my boat. It's a semi-rare MC and I'll let it go for only $70K.

[03 35th Anniversary]

Before you guys bite on this deal, I suggest you look at my boat. It's a semi-rare MC and I'll let it go for only $70K.

I'll take $69K!!!!!!

Mine has a HYD barefoot plate also!!! :D

[flipper]

Which is faster?

[panshovel68]

I'll take $69K!!!!!!

Mine has a HYD barefoot plate also!!! :D

Whats the hyd barefoot plate

[03 35th Anniversary]

Hydraulic barefoot plate.


Whats the hyd barefoot plate

[JohnE]

What's rarer? A 35th with or without the tower? Let me know and I'll send you either 69 or 70 grand depending. Unless I find a 35th 190 and then it's worth 80.

[panshovel68]

Hydraulic barefoot plate.

Is it like a trim tab?

[03 35th Anniversary]

Is it like a trim tab?

On a runabout it's a trim tab.

On a X series boat it's an attitude adj. plate.

On a prostar series boat it's a barefoot plate.

But it's pretty much all the same!!!

[atlfootr]

Made only to enhance the performance of the table, correct :confused:

[03 35th Anniversary]

Yes...

I only put it down till the white wash is mostly gone off the table.




Made only to enhance the performance of the table, correct :confused:

[Sodar]

Yes...

I only put it down till the white wash is mostly gone off the table.

If you put it all the way down, what does it do to the wake? Smaller? How much does it stuff the nose if you put it all the way down?

Where is the switch for the plate? Do you have an indicator for it? Do you install/have it installed or do the factory do it?

I have never seen a plate on a 190/197

[thatsmrmastercraft]

On a runabout it's a trim tab.

On a X series boat it's an attitude adj. plate.

On a prostar series boat it's a barefoot plate.

But it's pretty much all the same!!!

If you put it on upside down and backwards, does it work like a bu? Jk. Looks like it would work very well.

[Rockman]

Yes...

I only put it down till the white wash is mostly gone off the table.


Yes, works very well for platform runs! :D

[03 35th Anniversary]

If you put it all the way down, what does it do to the wake? Smaller? How much does it stuff the nose if you put it all the way down?

If you put it all the way down it stuffs the nose and makes a really big rooster tail and the complete wake goes to wash.

Where is the switch for the plate? Do you have an indicator for it? Do you install/have it installed or do the factory do it?

Texas MasterCraft installed it on my boat. The switch is down where the balast switch would be on an X-7. No I have no gauge for it. I just move it up and till the wake looks good. Its always different depending on how many people are in the boat.

I have never seen a plate on a 190/197

....................

[03 35th Anniversary]

Yes, works very well for platform runs! :D

You gotta teach me how to do those at MM this year....

[panshovel68]

Does anyone know where I can purchase one?

[03 35th Anniversary]

Does anyone know where I can purchase one?

You have to have a good amount of HP to run the plate cause it slows the boat a lot if you don't!!!

I know a 197 with the 350hp MCX struggled pretty bad to hold a good topend speed with it.

[panshovel68]

You have to have a good amount of HP to run the plate cause it slows the boat a lot if you don't!!!

I know a 197 with the 350hp MCX struggled pretty bad to hold a good topend speed with it.

Good to know...I guess I will ski what I have. I footed behind a couple 1990 190s with the 240hp ford and the wake is just fine. I repowerd with a 315hp chevy but if a 350hp motor struggled then im not even going to mess with it. thanks for info

[jeff shelton]

Craigslist longisland 2009-05-07 05:29:44 1997 Mastercraft PowerStar 200 $7500 -
Log Island, New York
No pictures but listing is new so I think this will qualify as one. Even with purchasing a motor it is considerably cheaper than $35000.

[ctkiteboarding]

its whooped ,missing 1/2 the windshield and has some stress cracks on the transom ,, new 200 opti is 16k so thats puts ya at 23 for a beater without a trailer, he had it at 10k when i went to see it ,,,,still waiting for someone to find a clean powerstar? just one

[cbryan70]

Please tell me someone that will pay 16K for a new opti.......I got about a dozen I will sell them and hell ill even knock off 1K each motor

[cbryan70]

13500 for an opti. Last year for the 150 merc EFI at about 10K put 3K into that motor and you will be well above 200HP thing is barley trying to make 150 its actually closer to 190

[woftam]

its whooped ,missing 1/2 the windshield and has some stress cracks on the transom ,, new 200 opti is 16k so thats puts ya at 23 for a beater without a trailer, he had it at 10k when i went to see it ,,,,still waiting for someone to find a clean powerstar? just one

Me too. I’m still looking for a clean PowerStar that is available now.
With all due respect, your boat isn’t it.
Price is insultingly high and it’s accessorized with stuff I don’t want, don’t need, and have no desire to pay an inflated premium for.
Good luck in finding your eventual buyer though…..
There's one born every minute.
;)

[ctkiteboarding]

Please tell me someone that will pay 16K for a new opti.......I got about a dozen I will sell them and hell ill even knock off 1K each motor local merc dealer quotes 16 for the pro xs 200 maybe hes on crack but thats what he said

[ctkiteboarding]

Me too. I’m still looking for a clean PowerStar that is available now.
With all due respect, your boat isn’t it.
Price is insultingly high and it’s accessorized with stuff I don’t want, don’t need, and have no desire to pay an inflated premium for.
Good luck in finding your eventual buyer though…..
There's one born every minute.
;)
no need to ruffle your feather's my friend , just stating a simple fact, find me one , just one, my boats 8 out of a 10 ,,10 being brand new ill even give you a 7 if that makes ya feel better,,, i can ask what i want seeing that i don't really want to sell it if i did it be priced to sell,,, so now back to finding me one???

[jeff shelton]

I understand your concept. Everything is forsale just maybe not onsale. But if something is not forsale typically it's not listed on sites. With that being said it's your boat and you can ask what ever price you wish. Someone may or may not ever buy the boat. Personally if I'm a serious barefooter and I want the best wake. For the money $35000 I can purchase a yr old Sanger with the 8.1 before I pay your asking price.

[Chicago190]

its whooped ,missing 1/2 the windshield and has some stress cracks on the transom ,, new 200 opti is 16k so thats puts ya at 23 for a beater without a trailer, he had it at 10k when i went to see it ,,,,still waiting for someone to find a clean powerstar? just one

I keep getting pulled back into this discussion, and I don't know why, but here is my last post on the subject.

You keep making this same silly point that Powerstars are worth $30k because there was no market for them 10 years ago, very few were made, and therefore they are rare and should be priced as such. Fortunately, weak arguments usually fail when simple argumentative techniques are used. In this case, I will simply counter your argument with the exact opposite argument, for which there is also no answer.

So, show me one Powerstar 200 that has sold for over 27k.

It should noted this is a 25% less than your price, and the boat was sold in the peak of the easy-credit, buy things you don't need era (3 years ago).

[ctkiteboarding]

very true , the powerstar does not have the best wake for footing , it does accel in other area's or shall i say covers lots of activities well, not just footing, its not a boat that has alot of following but if ya want one you will be hard pressed to find it, thats my only point , the price , i cant argue with its up there and most likley it wont sell for close to that but if some one came with the cash and made an close offer hell who wouldn't sell , right

im still waiting for the mc site guru's to find one if that do id say 25k

[woftam]

no need to ruffle your feather's my friend , just stating a simple fact, find me one , just one, my boats 8 out of a 10 ,,10 being brand new ill even give you a 7 if that makes ya feel better,,, i can ask what i want seeing that i don't really want to sell it if i did it be priced to sell,,, so now back to finding me one???

No feathers ruffled here. If the owner of the 9 out of 10 Powerstar that I spoke with is interested in a deal at a reasonable price in a year or two, then I will probably buy his boat. Otherwise it’s more of a minor intellectual exercise or curiosity.

As my kids grow, I may pop for a new or very slightly used MC for our next boat purchase.

Your boat might be a 7 for the whole package? Then again, the color scheme and “upgrades” don’t please my eyes or suit my needs/wants. The Powerstar model is intriguing and could be a good option in the right condition and at the right price, but I’m not anywhere close to set on it as a primary goal to purchase. There are plenty of other/newer options out there. An MC DD would work well for me too. The asking price isn’t the issue. There is more available in our budget than you are asking/dreaming.

Again, best of luck getting your “look at me” asking price and matching up with one of those who is born every minute.

Peace.

[atlfootr]

Are you guys still debating :confused: :rolleyes:

MasterCraft's Barefoot 200 undeniably is and was the BEST barefoot boat ever made!
It has the sweeeeetest hull design imaginable :D
Just ask any of us who have one, or those who use to own one ... there a few here on the board.

It's hard not to sound bias, but I'm jus' saying ...

[duckguy]

Heres mine just for fun!

[atlfootr]

Nice look'n 200 duckguy, what year's yours?
Mine's a '93, I see you've got the pocket on the rear of the driver's seat .. nice little feature for addition storage space.

I could use one on mine.

[flipper]

Never owned one, but I've always liked the BF200's. Lotta motor in a little boat.:dance:

[atlfootr]

200 hp, plenty enuff for a 5man deep start!

[woftam]

Question from the op:
"What prostar model and year with an open bow is the best for barefooting?"

We've gotten way off topic.

Best Barefoot MC is the BF 200.
Best open bow MC for barefooting is probably the Powerstar 200.
Best MC Prostar for barefooting is........?

I don't think the op got much of a response to his actual question.....

[woftam]

Are you guys still debating :confused: :rolleyes:

MasterCraft's Barefoot 200 undeniably is and was the BEST barefoot boat ever made!
It has the sweeeeetest hull design imaginable :D
Just ask any of us who have one, or those who use to own one ... there a few here on the board.

It's hard not to sound bias, but I'm jus' saying ...

Again, nice boat. Wish my BF 200 were in similar condition.
What prop are you spinning on yours?

[duckguy]

19p High 5

[duckguy]

Best prostar would be the 214 with ly6

[87MCProstar]

i wish i could get my hands on a BF200.

[duckguy]

everything is for sale!

[fletch_n_me]

Do you all think they will make another outboard BF MC? I used to foot behind one when I was younger and it was perfect. Plus you could get out and run with the bajas and switzers when the skiing was done. If I didn't need an inboard right now, I would be in the market...probably stalking Duckguy...

[atlfootr]

Dout they'll ever rebuild the 200's, last year they made 'em I believe was '96.
Truthfully, barefooter's are a dying breed and barefoot'n is a dying sport.

That's why mine isn't for sale 8p so, I guess I'll be hang'n onto it :D

[Chicago190]

Dout they'll ever rebuild the 200's, last year they made 'em I believe was '96.
Truthfully, barefooter's are a dying breed and barefoot'n is a dying sport.

That's why mine isn't for sale 8p so, I guess I'll be hang'n onto it :D

Agreed. They were sweet boats, but the market is too limited for MasterCraft to profitably produce them.

[atlfootr]

:( Sad but true, there is no market for 'em :(

[flipper]

Really it surprises me though. I know there isn't much of a market for them, but with all the extreme sports getting more and more popular, you'd think bare footing would be too. On the water it doesn't get much more extreme than flying across the water on your bare feet.

[Footin]

Even if barefooting became more popular, many of the newer inboards are very good barefoot boats.

[atlfootr]

All tournament outboards are now replaced mostly w/ Barefoot Sangers, at least in the sanctioned tourny's I've been in.
I do know a few BF Schools still using some outboards, but mostly their using inboards.

[ctkiteboarding]

i wish i could get my hands on a BF200.
one in stamford right now for sale

[ctkiteboarding]

I keep getting pulled back into this discussion, and I don't know why, but here is my last post on the subject.

You keep making this same silly point that Powerstars are worth $30k because there was no market for them 10 years ago, very few were made, and therefore they are rare and should be priced as such. Fortunately, weak arguments usually fail when simple argumentative techniques are used. In this case, I will simply counter your argument with the exact opposite argument, for which there is also no answer.

So, show me one Powerstar 200 that has sold for over 27k.

It should noted this is a 25% less than your price, and the boat was sold in the peak of the easy-credit, buy things you don't need era (3 years ago).

don't stress ,,all of the points are taken , i understand some folks dont agree and its cool , as for the 27k the red and black one sold for that ,,,custom color as well,
im not saying they are worth over 30k all im saying is find one, just one and how much ,,,,, that's not unreasonable is it?

[ctkiteboarding]

No feathers ruffled here. If the owner of the 9 out of 10 Powerstar that I spoke with is interested in a deal at a reasonable price in a year or two, then I will probably buy his boat. Otherwise it’s more of a minor intellectual exercise or curiosity.

As my kids grow, I may pop for a new or very slightly used MC for our next boat purchase.

Your boat might be a 7 for the whole package? Then again, the color scheme and “upgrades” don’t please my eyes or suit my needs/wants. The Powerstar model is intriguing and could be a good option in the right condition and at the right price, but I’m not anywhere close to set on it as a primary goal to purchase. There are plenty of other/newer options out there. An MC DD would work well for me too. The asking price isn’t the issue. There is more available in our budget than you are asking/dreaming.

Again, best of luck getting your “look at me” asking price and matching up with one of those who is born every minute.

Peace.
if im hearing you correctly u don't really want/need mastercraft bow rider O/B boat ,, you then wouldn't be a player in the market , just a "maybe id like one type" which is a good place to be ,
theses boats have a small market and yes the price of boats is in the ****ter and of course my asking price is a dream , didn't we get past that, as for color if im correct they only came in 2 choices teal or blue on white have you seen the teal :(

other then the boat you speak of ( which is not for sale and when he does sell it will be 20k) and maybe my "beater " have you seen one for sale

[ctkiteboarding]

Are you guys still debating :confused: :rolleyes:

MasterCraft's Barefoot 200 undeniably is and was the BEST barefoot boat ever made!
It has the sweeeeetest hull design imaginable :D
Just ask any of us who have one, or those who use to own one ... there a few here on the board.

It's hard not to sound bias, but I'm jus' saying ... not really a debate,, the 200 was and is a top notch barefoot boat and i put close to 900 hrs on mine before i sold it to buy the powerstar, cant beat it for footing and readily avail for 10k

[panshovel68]

Dout they'll ever rebuild the 200's, last year they made 'em I believe was '96.
Truthfully, barefooter's are a dying breed and barefoot'n is a dying sport.

:D

hUh, what....a dying sport? I dont think so!

[fletch_n_me]

I guess it is kind of a dying sport - people wonder what the hell I am doing when I step off - I have even had people ask is my barefoot suit is a scuba suit because of the padding. It is really a shame. When I was younger, if you could foot, you were a rock star. Now I am just that bald guy with funny wetsuit and a wierd pole sticking out the side of my boat.

[87MCProstar]

ct kite, your asking price is a years salary for me. too rich for my blood

[olaski]

Hello guys, im new to this forum im from Australia. This is an interesting topic, in aus barefoot is a dying sport, alot of boats in the late 80s n early 90s were outboard such as flightcraft whcih was bought out by malibu, most came out with 200+ hp outboard which they were awesome boats, their is no doubt that the outboards is the best for barefooting due to they plane very quickly which is wat you want, but you can make inboard good for barefooting by changing its prop by lowing it which give much more take off power like there was this guy who had an old famous aus boat called ramsay which are 16 to 18ft which just had a 308 (5ltr) motor in it and did a good job. All the newer boats would easily do it with the amount of power that they have.

[east tx skier]

Shortly after buying Flightcraft, Malibu had an inboard version of the flightcraft called the flightcraft sportster that would supposedly do 52 mph. I hear the old flightcrafts had a pretty sweet barefoot wake.

[olaski]

Yer the malibu didnt have the barefoot model for too long and 52 mph is not too bad for an inboard. I still have my old Flightcraft dominator which came out with a 140 yamaha been done up to a 175 and that thing gets up to 56 mph, as most 200 hp capable doin 60+ mph i believe so

[flipper]

don't stress ,,all of the points are taken , i understand some folks dont agree and its cool , as for the 27k the red and black one sold for that ,,,custom color as well,
im not saying they are worth over 30k all im saying is find one, just one and how much ,,,,, that's not unreasonable is it?

14K seems to be the going rate for a BF200 in good shape

[monzarati]

Anyone look at the Hydrodyne outboards? They are being made under the name dyna-ski now. They have a 18' and a 20' model in open or closed bow. I have an older 1971 Hydrodyne I/O. It's a mean looking boat and pulls good, but I'd love an outboard!