PDA

View Full Version : 2nd Admendment


trickskier
03-01-2009, 11:53 AM
This really hits home and is worth watching!!!

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4069761537893819675

JimN
03-01-2009, 12:24 PM
This was posted here before and should be a reminder to everyone, especially Washington DC.

Now for the opposing viewpoint:

Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2009
http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h45/text

Clearly, some people should never be allowed to touch a gun or for that matter, be anywhere near one. However, when the description of a bill shows "To provide for the implementation of a system of licensing for purchasers of certain firearms and for a record of sale system for those firearms, and for other purposes.", I really worry about the "and for other purposes." part. We have dangerous people in Congress and they will eliminate the freedoms this country is based on.

michael freeman
03-01-2009, 01:47 PM
If you want to keep your rights, then write your US Senator and Representative and tell them that you would like to keep your 2nd amendment rights.

If you don't, then you only have yourself to blame for loosing them. Be polite and succinct in your view and when you vote next election remember if he/she voted for your rights or voted to take them away.

TX.X-30 fan
03-01-2009, 02:18 PM
If you want to keep your rights, then write your US Senator and Representative and tell them that you would like to keep your 2nd amendment rights.

If you don't, then you only have yourself to blame for loosing them. Be polite and succinct in your view and when you vote next election remember if he/she voted for your rights or voted to take them away.



54% voted to take mine away last election. I am outnumbered. :mad:

michael freeman
03-01-2009, 02:58 PM
[/B]



54% voted to take mine away last election. I am outnumbered. :mad:

Part of the problem is that too many people do not value their rights enough to get off the couch and vote. The Anti-gunners have also convinced hunters that if they support the anti-gunners they will be spared. I have been very surprised at how many of them believe the anti-gunners. Divide and conquer.

It probably doesn't hurt that they promises the masses entitlements and money. The masses do love to get free money. I even saw Hillary begging the Chinese to not cash in their present dept (treasury bonds) as well as begging them to buy more to fund the latest dept, on the news. Pretty sad day when China is now our boss and master because we do not know how to budget our country.

Anywho, have YOU (everyone who reads this) sent a letter to your Senator and Representative? If not then you can't really blame others for being too lazy.

JimN
03-01-2009, 03:40 PM
If you want to keep your rights, then write your US Senator and Representative and tell them that you would like to keep your 2nd amendment rights.

If you don't, then you only have yourself to blame for loosing them. Be polite and succinct in your view and when you vote next election remember if he/she voted for your rights or voted to take them away.

I would but I'm in Wisconsin, where we have Kohl and Feingold. They're only too happy to go along with the new program. Sensenbrenner might be able to help but he's pizzing into the wind at the moment.

JimN
03-01-2009, 03:44 PM
[/B]



54% voted to take mine away last election. I am outnumbered. :mad:

That's the problem when people who previously hadn't been particularly interested in the election process find someone who tells them that everything is gonna be different/better from now on and that he's going to make it happen.

TX.X-30 fan
03-01-2009, 06:17 PM
We still have the ability to secede if the nuts gain total control. Gun control will be a hard sell in texas.

JimN
03-01-2009, 07:58 PM
We still have the ability to secede if the nuts gain total control. Gun control will be a hard sell in texas.

Easier for you- TX is still a republic and "He needed killin' " is still a valid murder defense.

Except for the Milwaukee Metropolitan Area and Madison, Wisconsin is generally like a lot of other moderate places. MKE has mostly low income (unless you look downtown and in some old, more affluent areas) and that spells "Let's go out and kill each other". Madison is just filled with insane Communists. That's why the saying "Madison- 47 square miles surrounded by reality" can't be debated. Until 1960, MKE had Socialist Mayors for most of the 20th century, when they made the drastic change to Democrats. We haven't had a Republican Mayor since 1906 because for much of it's life since the Industrial revolution, MKE has been a major manufacturing city.

TX.X-30 fan
03-01-2009, 09:12 PM
I hear and always amazing how liberal it is up there. I still wonder how Minnesota got a republican governor. Rights are under assault everywhere, as the general public becomes less involved and not in touch with whats happening then a few sound bites about what someone is going to give them is all that matters.

Freeman is right we can still make a difference sometimes, they tried the dems to shove amnesty down our throats and the country shut down the phones in Washington in opposition to the crapy legislation.

Why did we allow them to cram a trillion dollars of special interest spending labeled as stimulus down our throats then?? Apathy??

I for one hope everything our new leader attempts to do from now on is met with failure.

JimN
03-01-2009, 09:30 PM
I hear and always amazing how liberal it is up there. I still wonder how Minnesota got a republican governor. Rights are under assault everywhere, as the general public becomes less involved and not in touch with whats happening then a few sound bites about what someone is going to give them is all that matters.

Freeman is right we can still make a difference sometimes, they tried the dems to shove amnesty down our throats and the country shut down the phones in Washington in opposition to the crapy legislation.

Why did we allow them to cram a trillion dollars of special interest spending labeled as stimulus down our throats then?? Apathy??

I for one hope everything our new leader attempts to do from now on is met with failure.

We have a couple of Republican Representatives, but they're from my district and they're far outnumbered by the rest of the state. As I have said, other than some family and a couple of friends, the number of reasons to stay here is getting smaller all the time.

A trillion dollars? It's over $3.5T now. Now, Hillary is in the Middle East, handing over $300M to Israel and $660M to Gaza. We're buying off each side of the conflict in hopes that it won't escalate again. Now, Admiral Mullen says Iran has enough fissile material to make nuclear weapons.

Care to remind why the rest of the World hasn't kept this from happening?

bigmac
03-01-2009, 10:41 PM
I hear and always amazing how liberal it is up there. I still wonder how Minnesota got a republican governor.





And the governor before him was Jesse "The Body" Ventura ("I ain't got time to bleed"). Maybe what you heard was wrong? Perhaps your amazement is misplaced?

Anyway, dunno about Wisconsin, Michigan, or North Dakota, but I don't view Minnesota as excessively liberal, and I grew up in Nebraska in a dyed-in-the-wool GOP family. You want liberal, east or west are always going to be your best bet. But let's face it...relative to conservatism, EVERY state (and some fascist regimes) suffers by comparison to the Lone Star State.;)

Or...maybe I heard wrong...

fskof
03-01-2009, 11:18 PM
We have a couple of Republican Representatives, but they're from my district and they're far outnumbered by the rest of the state. As I have said, other than some family and a couple of friends, the number of reasons to stay here is getting smaller all the time.

A trillion dollars? It's over $3.5T now. Now, Hillary is in the Middle East, handing over $300M to Israel and $660M to Gaza. We're buying off each side of the conflict in hopes that it won't escalate again. Now, Admiral Mullen says Iran has enough fissile material to make nuclear weapons.

Care to remind why the rest of the World hasn't kept this from happening?


Hey JimN, where are you from? I live in New Berlin and you are right about Milwaukee. Everyone there is looking for a free handout. No wonder our taxes are so high. I have seen people wearing t-shirts that say "Welcome to Wisconsin Aka The TAX Hell"

JimN
03-01-2009, 11:36 PM
Hey JimN, where are you from? I live in New Berlin and you are right about Milwaukee. Everyone there is looking for a free handout. No wonder our taxes are so high. I have seen people wearing t-shirts that say "Welcome to Wisconsin Aka The TAX Hell"

The city keeps low income people in certain places and fixes up the areas that are easy for visitors to see from the freeway, as you know. A block away, it's the same ol' crap as it always was. I don't think Barrett is as much a fan of handouts as some have been but that guy has been freakin' invisible since he was elected. Doy-boy is an effin' turd. He promised to cut the state's deficit and taxes, but when he was interviewed on WLZR, they busted him for raising taxes and the budget increasing. They asked why this happened and he just said that the budget was in worse shape than he though, which was met with "Shouldn't you have known exactly what the condition of the budget was before making any promises about it?".

Throwing buckets of money on a fire isn't a good way to put it out.

I'm in the North Shore, barely. All summer long, I hear gun shots from a housing project between Silver Spring Dr and Villard Ave. South of Silver Spring and West of Teutonia is crap. The night of the election sounded like the Middle East on a holiday.

michael freeman
03-02-2009, 05:40 AM
Why did we allow them to cram a trillion dollars of special interest spending labeled as stimulus down our throats then?? Apathy??



The Dems have learned if they add a line in the bill that pays the masses money out of the treasury, they can pass any bill they want. If anyone tries to say no, they just tell the masses they were trying to give them some money but "the bad guys" stopped this "noble" bill.

trickskier
03-02-2009, 07:41 AM
The Dems have learned if they add a line in the bill that pays the masses money out of the treasury, they can pass any bill they want. If anyone tries to say no, they just tell the masses they were trying to give them some money but "the bad guys" stopped this "noble" bill.

I believe you hit the nail on the head!!!

JimN
03-02-2009, 08:37 AM
The Dems have learned if they add a line in the bill that pays the masses money out of the treasury, they can pass any bill they want. If anyone tries to say no, they just tell the masses they were trying to give them some money but "the bad guys" stopped this "noble" bill.

Just another way to see that our education system is failing. If Social Studies and History teachers were teaching our country's history, what the Constitution was for, what it means and why it needs to be followed, we wouldn't be in this mess. Part of the problem lies in the political slant of the teachers and their biased message.

TX.X-30 fan
03-02-2009, 10:22 AM
Original intent: Only property owners should vote. Problem solved.

wakeX2wake
03-02-2009, 11:02 AM
here's you a shirt (http://www.bustedtees.com/secondamendment)

JimN
03-02-2009, 11:17 AM
Original intent: Only property owners should vote. Problem solved.

The problem with that way is that even then, there were less property owners than non-owners and if things got too bad, they would have a revolution of their own.

fskof
03-02-2009, 11:22 PM
Best Bumper Sticker

bbymgr
03-02-2009, 11:43 PM
Best Bumper Sticker

Bumper Sticker???????????..........that thing takes up half the tailgate!! It is hilarious though.

captain planet
03-03-2009, 11:03 AM
If you want to keep your rights, then write your US Senator and Representative and tell them that you would like to keep your 2nd amendment rights.

If you don't, then you only have yourself to blame for loosing them. Be polite and succinct in your view and when you vote next election remember if he/she voted for your rights or voted to take them away.

[/B]



54% voted to take mine away last election. I am outnumbered. :mad:

I hope your sitting down TX, but I called all 3 of my congressmen in Washington (Bocceri, Voinovich, and Brown) 2 weeks ago on this issue and told them it was wrong. I was polite but firm on this that it is my right to have a gun and this proposed legislation needs to go away. I plan on calling them again this week and next week again.

JimN
03-03-2009, 11:07 AM
I hope your sitting down TX, but I called all 3 of my congressmen in Washington (Bocceri, Voinovich, and Brown) 2 weeks ago on this issue and told them it was wrong. I was polite but firm on this that it is my right to have a gun and this proposed legislation needs to go away. I plan on calling them again this week and next week again.

Did you actually talk to them or leave a message?

wakeX2wake
03-03-2009, 11:08 AM
if i don't have a gun what am i supposed to shoot gas thieves w/?

JimN
03-03-2009, 11:17 AM
if i don't have a gun what am i supposed to shoot gas thieves w/?

Potato gun. They don't plan to make them illegal. That being the case, make it big enough that you can shoot a bushel at one time.