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SPLIFF
02-01-2009, 09:20 PM
Drum broke!! Now what? How do you change the spindel?
14 inch 5 lug

SPLIFF
02-01-2009, 09:47 PM
is the drum something i could get at the junk yard? also can i put just a hub with no brakes on to get it home 15 miles?

Cloaked
02-01-2009, 10:16 PM
Just disconnect the brakes (do not plug them in but be aware of the un-lit trailer) and use a hub for 15 miles. No problem. Maybe a rear escort by someone that knows your intentions.


Also have a look see here --> http://www.mastercraft.com/teamtalk/showthread.php?t=23651&highlight=trailer

There are many threads on search with the leyword trailer.

SPLIFF
02-01-2009, 10:28 PM
i think i might have to change the spindal the 2 black pieces of metal are bent on it pic 4 and 5 but i might be able to salvage it.thanks for the help

alletric
02-01-2009, 11:39 PM
You go and buy the replacement spindle from an auto parts store or trailer store. You then have to take a grinder with a cut off wheel and cut the round spindle along the welds to remove. You will then grind any high spots so the new spindle lies flat in the cradle left. Know there is a lot of measuring to make sure the spndle is parallel to the axel and perpendicular to it as well. Again some twine and a level come in handy here. Then you weld it back in place. Be sure that when you are removing the spindle the part you take off looks like the part you are replacing it with. Remove too much metal and you got a problem. If this sounds confusing to you don't attempt it and take it to a trailer shop.

Ramhouse
02-02-2009, 02:04 AM
my opinion...change it over to disc brakes well worth the money. i did mine when i spun a bearing.

SPLIFF
02-02-2009, 11:19 AM
is there any way to change the bearing on spindal with out cutting or welding i broke at friends house but i need to get it back home as soon as possible.

mayo93prostar
02-02-2009, 11:24 AM
spliff, It looks like the outer bearing seized up and the heat made the drum break. you need to check/regrease bearings more often after you get this fixed. both sides.
yes, you can change the bearings and put new drum on to get it home but it looks like the spindle might be messed up. good pics but still hard to tell what is left on spindle. if you can get cotter key and nut off and hammer the bearings off, clean up the spindle then you can probably get it home. you may still need to replace spindle for long term.
what is left on the spindle, can you describe?

flipper
02-02-2009, 11:24 AM
Just disconnect the brakes (do not plug them in but be aware of the un-lit trailer) and use a hub for 15 miles. No problem. Maybe a rear escort by someone that knows your intentions.



Also have a look see here --> http://www.mastercraft.com/teamtalk/showthread.php?t=23651&highlight=trailer

There are many threads on search with the leyword trailer.

They're not electric brakes are they? If there is no damage to the spindle, there is no reason to replace it.

TMCNo1
02-02-2009, 02:06 PM
I would start with Unique Functional Products, http://www.ufpnet.com/Home/tabid/36/Default.aspx, for most if not all your replacement parts or a MC dealer. The name is even cast into the brake drum. Have you inspected the other hub?
You may also want to try using some of this too, to keep the bearings properly lubed,
44223

SPLIFF
02-02-2009, 03:04 PM
They're not electric brakes are they? If there is no damage to the spindle, there is no reason to replace it.
hey flipper i do not think they are electric.

SPLIFF
02-02-2009, 03:14 PM
I would start with Unique Functional Products, http://www.ufpnet.com/Home/tabid/36/Default.aspx, for most if not all your replacement parts or a MC dealer. The name is even cast into the brake drum. Have you inspected the other hub?
You may also want to try using some of this too, to keep the bearings properly lubed,
44223
thanks tmcno1 i faxed them some pictures and numbers off the drum to UFP. i just went to advanced auto they said to take off the bearing and seal from the other side so they could match it. how hard would that be and is it easy to mess up? next time i will make sure i have enough grease the other hub looks ok. is there a easy tempary fix to get it 15 miles home

flipper
02-02-2009, 03:16 PM
hey flipper i do not think they are electric.

They are not, unplugging the plug will do nothing for you.

TMCNo1
02-02-2009, 04:45 PM
thanks tmcno1 i faxed them some pictures and numbers off the drum to UFP. i just went to advanced auto they said to take off the bearing and seal from the other side so they could match it. how hard would that be and is it easy to mess up? next time i will make sure i have enough grease the other hub looks ok. is there a easy tempary fix to get it 15 miles home

By getting the wrong parts in a rush and creating more damage to the spindle (if still usable), I would suggest getting a towing company to come get it, put a dollie under the bad side and gently get it home or to a repair shop. Maybe I'm too anal, but I would plan on a whole new axle by the looks of that spindle, I don't know if I've ever seen one that badly trashed, but someone at a trailer repair shop or garage may be able to do wonders.

M-Funf
02-02-2009, 06:33 PM
By getting the wrong parts in a rush and creating more damage to the spindle (if still usable), I would suggest getting a towing company to come get it, put a dollie under the bad side and gently get it home or to a repair shop. Maybe I'm too anal, but I would plan on a whole new axle by the looks of that spindle, I don't know if I've ever seen one that badly trashed, but someone at a trailer repair shop or garage may be able to do wonders.

Well, you said it :rolleyes:

It looks like the spindle is welded to the axle. That means you'll have to replace the entire axle assembly if the spindle is toast.
There are several places that can help you out with that.

Like TMCno1 said, you can either trailer it home, or put the bearings, bad drum, and wheel back on and put dollies under the wheels to tow it home. Either way, I would not tow that thing home on the existing spindle/bearings...

Footin
02-02-2009, 09:37 PM
Same thing happened to me a few years ago.

Read here http://www.mastercraft.com/teamtalk/showthread.php?t=5673

I order all my parts from Waymire in Indianapolis. I still have all the part numbers if you need them.

bturner2
02-03-2009, 07:49 AM
I'm sure there are shops out there that could align and weld a new spindle on for you but my vote goes for replacing the axle. I'd prefer to do it without the boat on the trailer but if you have to you could put it on jack stands and still replace it. Axle position is critical so measure, measure and measure before locking everything into place. Don't even try to pull on what's left. All you'll do is take a chance of wrecking your boat and put others on the raod at risk. Call a wrecker, have them dolly the wheels and get it back home or where ever you can work on it saftely.
I've also used Waymire and have notheing but good things to say about them. This would be a great opportunity to turn an negitive into a positive and switch to oil bath hubs and disk brakes. At least when you're done you'll know everything there is to know about trailer brakes!

SPLIFF
02-03-2009, 01:47 PM
after cleaning the spindal up i noticed a cut on the bottom of the spindal so everybody was right and i will not chance pulling it back home. i know i should buy the axle but i no not have a lot of money i was thinking about taking off the axle and bringing it to C F trailor shop and have them weld a new spindal on it. also what is the differnce between drum and disc brakes ?thanks for the help

SPLIFF
02-03-2009, 02:14 PM
can i get buy a axle hub seal & bearing an go no brakes?

flipper
02-03-2009, 02:17 PM
can i get buy a axle hub seal & bearing an go no brakes?

Yes, but do it to both sides so your boat doesn't try to turn every time you stop. Also, you have to do something about the actuator so it doesn't bang back and forth when you stop and go. It will probably be cheaper and easier to just replace it with what's there.

Sodar
02-03-2009, 02:18 PM
can i get buy a axle hub seal & bearing an go no brakes?

English Please.


The brakes are not an issue to limp the boat home.

Go to a trailer store and buy an idler hub and new bearings. Slap them onto that axle. And drive home. Get the boat home and throw a new drum brake and drum hub on it or go with a disc brake set up. Good luck!

Sodar
02-03-2009, 02:19 PM
Yes, but do it to both sides so your boat doesn't try to turn every time you stop. Also, you have to do something about the actuator so it doesn't bang back and forth when you stop and go. It will probably be cheaper and easier to just replace it with what's there.

Not needed. Just duct tape a penny or washer into the tongue actuator and it will lock out the brakes.

flipper
02-03-2009, 02:21 PM
Not needed. Just duct tape a penny or washer into the tongue actuator and it will lock out the brakes.

and i thought i was an oaky

Sodar
02-03-2009, 02:22 PM
^^^^^^^^^^^ Hillbilly Deluxe! :D

and i thought i was an oaky

TMCNo1
02-03-2009, 02:30 PM
Not needed. Just duct tape a penny or washer into the tongue actuator and it will lock out the brakes.

Sounds like this is all that's needed, https://www.mightyputty.com/flare/next?tag=os|sm|yh&OVRAW=mighty%20putty&OVKEY=mighty%20putty&OVMTC=standard&OVADID=7096564521&OVKWID=80101228521

Sodar
02-03-2009, 02:33 PM
Sounds like this is all that's needed, https://www.mightyputty.com/flare/next?tag=os|sm|yh&OVRAW=mighty%20putty&OVKEY=mighty%20putty&OVMTC=standard&OVADID=7096564521&OVKWID=80101228521

Is there anything that jack@ss does not sell!?!?!?!? :confused:

flipper
02-03-2009, 02:33 PM
Sounds like this is all that's needed, https://www.mightyputty.com/flare/next?tag=os|sm|yh&OVRAW=mighty%20putty&OVKEY=mighty%20putty&OVMTC=standard&OVADID=7096564521&OVKWID=80101228521

if you're going to order that, you migh as well use it to hold the new spindle on too.:D

ttu
02-03-2009, 02:37 PM
Is there anything that jack@ss does not sell!?!?!?!? :confused:


i bought that simonize paint scratch remover that he promoted from wally world. that crap sucked.:mad:

Sodar
02-03-2009, 02:38 PM
if you're going to order that, you migh as well use it to hold the new spindle on too.:D


Precisely. No need for a spindle nut.