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Justjoe
01-13-2009, 04:53 PM
This is my how to on lighting those cool new sport grills. Pretty cheap to do (less than $300 total I think).

Step one: get the necessary parts

Justjoe
01-13-2009, 04:55 PM
The grills are the new JL Sport grills (about 50 a piece). Pretty cool. You will need as many as you have speakers (trust me).

Justjoe
01-13-2009, 04:57 PM
Six 8mm LED's per speaker. You can get these all over. I think I used Superbright LED's.com. Bought 60 for like $60.

Justjoe
01-13-2009, 04:58 PM
Get some Silicone from the Home Depot or someplace. You don't need a whole bunch.

Justjoe
01-13-2009, 04:59 PM
And some Super Glue!

Justjoe
01-13-2009, 05:00 PM
And heat shrink tubes. You will need two per speaker.

Justjoe
01-13-2009, 05:03 PM
First thing: Drill holes in the center of the grill. I shot for the bottom of the well. Use as small a drill as the plastic cover just distal to the glass bulb on the LED wire.

BOATNGUYNE
01-13-2009, 05:05 PM
The glass of wine in the first picture.......That has to be most important part of the whole project !!

Should look great when it's done !

Justjoe
01-13-2009, 05:06 PM
Work the wires into the holes leaving the LED well exposed above your grill so you can get under the bulbs. Get them all arranged all nice and pretty.

Justjoe
01-13-2009, 05:09 PM
Load the bottom of these areas with silicone to fasten the bulbs in. Try not to get any on the exposed portion, as this would effect the luminescence!

Justjoe
01-13-2009, 05:11 PM
When you get done you will have a wheel of wires...like this.

Justjoe
01-13-2009, 05:15 PM
Take your super glue and run a small bead along each section of the grill interior. Glue sparingly, and in small sections. Oh wait...I forgot something Make sure that you figure out where you want the wires to finish to. They will be collected at the end of one spoke. If the speaker grill is going to be in a high location (tower) you may chose to have the grouping at the bottom of the grill (so it is less obvious in the boat. There are ALOT of wires, and it gets full back there). If the Grill is low (in the boat) put the collective bunch on a top spoke.

Justjoe
01-13-2009, 05:17 PM
Alright...glue in the wires following around the grill to your pre specified exit point.

Justjoe
01-13-2009, 05:19 PM
When you get to your exit spoke, you can pull the wires apart (red from black) and slip them into the slots on the grill spoke. Use a little super glue to mash them all together and in tight.

Justjoe
01-13-2009, 05:20 PM
When your finished with this step the grill will look like this!

Justjoe
01-13-2009, 05:22 PM
Use the shrink tubes you bought to determine the length of the wires coming off the grill. DO NOT CUT THEM TOO SHORT. You will want these leads to be as long as possible, as that makes later steps easier.

Justjoe
01-13-2009, 05:25 PM
After sliding the tubes over the wires (all black in one, all red in one) you can trim the wires to about 1/2 inch from the end. Use a little super glue to tack the proximal portion of the tube to the wires so it doesn't slide off later. (Trying to put a shrunken tube back over the wires is a pain/impossible)

Justjoe
01-13-2009, 05:27 PM
Drill two holes in the speaker body to match the location of the pigs coming off the grills. The wires will be passing through these, so make them a little bit bigger than the shrunken tube diameter.

Justjoe
01-13-2009, 05:29 PM
On the hull speakers, drill complementary holes through the hull where the speaker mounted to slide the pig through. You can see how this is going to work here:

Justjoe
01-13-2009, 05:30 PM
Reach in behind the speaker before you mount it and put a connector onto the pig end. This is where your really happy about leaving them long. Attach this to a power source to drive the lights.

Justjoe
01-13-2009, 05:32 PM
On the tower. Remove the speakers from the cans (in fact remove the cans).

Justjoe
01-13-2009, 05:35 PM
You can fish around in the tower for some wires. I don't have tower lights, so I was able to use the pre wired light wires to power the led's. I found that the mounting brackets on my boat were fastened using RED lock tite. As a favor....don't use RED (it's not made to come off again) use BLUE. This is something that I understand is done at the dealership, so good luck. Maybe you'll be lucky...I wasn't.

Justjoe
01-13-2009, 05:37 PM
You are going to have to drill a few small holes in your speaker cans (just like the boat hull holes). Keep them angled so they go through the trim ring and the beveled can area without bursting out the side of the can (that would not be cool).

Justjoe
01-13-2009, 05:39 PM
This is kinda how it looks from above when it's done. Bad pictures, but the camera was frozen and it was just off my cell.

Justjoe
01-13-2009, 05:40 PM
This is the look from the back!!

wakeX2wake
01-13-2009, 06:01 PM
looks great man... took some cahonies drilling through that can... a task i was not willing to undertake... congrats on the finished project... looks great man... you're gonna love it at night on the water... mine added a ton of light to the interior... makes for an awesome look

ps your documentary thread was WAY better than mine... i think i was drinkin' too much and no thinking about the pics haha

aaronfuller@windstream.net
01-13-2009, 06:28 PM
hey looks great man i like all the pictures this will help when i start mine this summer...you said it cost a little less than $300 but if you got the leds for 60 and the super glue, chalk, and shrink i wouldnt think would be that expensive what else was included in the project to make it cost $300??? just wondering but really does look great

trickskier
01-13-2009, 06:31 PM
Nice Job!!! Congratulations!!!

Justjoe
01-13-2009, 07:47 PM
I figured in the price of the grills to at about 50 a pair....so, well wait...maybe just a LITTLE bit more than 300.

Justjoe
01-13-2009, 07:48 PM
Considering I did 8 sets in the boat (four on tower, four in the hull).

Justjoe
01-13-2009, 07:48 PM
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TMCNo1
01-13-2009, 08:12 PM
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Justjoe
01-13-2009, 08:41 PM
Yeah, um...that's ok and all, but I generally don't wash my hands. No towels needed!!

trickskier
01-13-2009, 08:52 PM
Considering I did 8 sets in the boat (four on tower, four in the hull).

I'll buy the beer you bring the lights......................

wakeX2wake
01-14-2009, 09:21 AM
o BTW... you're freakin' luck as all get out!!! i had to run a wire up the tower b/c i have two forward facing lights on mine and i didn't want to have to have my forwards on w/ my speaker can lights... you're a lucky (^&%^@#^%

Justjoe
01-14-2009, 09:41 AM
You got that right! Although I'm looking into making some super bad a$$ rear facing floods, and would need more wires. I have a diabolical plan for the coolest rear facers EVER...just need to get some parts, and hunker down for some fabrication time.

wakeX2wake
01-14-2009, 09:46 AM
well when you fab it up post it up b/c i'm looking to do something...

pagelk
01-14-2009, 01:07 PM
Does JL have/or are they planning to produce sport grills for the M10IB5 sub? or for the 6.5" speakers?

Justjoe
01-14-2009, 01:58 PM
I'm not sure about the sub, though it seems like I've seen a 10" sub grill...or maybe it was 12, I'm not sure. I do know that there are no 6.5" grills (yet). They are working on a 6.5, but because it is not a true "component" speaker set, it will have the tweeter set into the grill. Hopefully there will be something soon for that application (I have a pair of 6.5" across the rear seat facing).

Loffgren
01-14-2009, 03:17 PM
yes JL has a sport grill for the 10inch sub,(i have one)

aaronfuller@windstream.net
01-14-2009, 03:29 PM
I figured in the price of the grills to at about 50 a pair....so, well wait...maybe just a LITTLE bit more than 300.

ok i understand now i just figured you already had the sport grilles but you bought them and included them in the cost.

pagelk
01-14-2009, 03:56 PM
justjoe or wakex2wake, did either of you two put LEDs in the woofer, or in the seperate tweeters?

wakeX2wake
01-14-2009, 04:16 PM
justjoe or wakex2wake, did either of you two put LEDs in the woofer, or in the seperate tweeters?

i didn't see a point in putting any in the sub... as a matter of fact when i ordered the grilles from Mike i didn't even get on for my sub b/c of its hidden location behind the driver's seat... if it were in a more prominent location i definitely would have though... that sucker would be jacked full of LEDs

and w/ the tweeters... just not room... i guess there might be but only for one LED and i wouldn't be worth figuring out how to get the wire ran to do it for me... someone pioneer this feat and let me know if its worth it though...

Justjoe
01-14-2009, 09:29 PM
My boat has Kicker speaker grills over the Sub holes (one behind the drivers seat from the factory, and one in the walk way before the gate). The grills that Skeeler put in are like a round mesh of holes, so no significant designs to them. I put 15" LED strips around the inside of the hole to illuminate the sub. Because the grill is significant enough that you really cant see that it's a strip, it really looks nice. Just illuminates the hole well with no obvious bulbs.

With the 7. JL's, I just did the grills around the midrange. Like Wakex2wake says, wiring the tweeters might be possible, and would probably look awesome, but would be pretty tough to work in.

TallRedRider
01-16-2009, 11:16 AM
Awesome thread Justjoe!!!!


Do you really need that many LED's to make the speakers shine? I wonder if doing less LED's might give enough brightness to have a nice glow, without quite so much work. Anyone ever do this with just 1 or 2?

wakeX2wake
01-16-2009, 11:19 AM
naa you need all of them imo... you can do it w/ 3 but it gives shadows on the speaker face and doesn't look nearly as good... i tested w/ 3 and didn't like it at all

Justjoe
01-16-2009, 01:45 PM
I agree. The six is the way to go. Makes for a nice solid presence....but if you were afraid of it being too light, just put in 6mm LED's instead of the 8.

IMO, the 8's are the way to go ESPECIALLY in the tower.