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'82starsandstripes
01-07-2009, 12:19 PM
Hey guys, i'm about to refinish and oil my platform, what brand of oil is the best? thanks

ttu
01-07-2009, 12:22 PM
do you mean to refinish and oil your platform. reason asking is teak is a type of wood.

according to the teak god, harold,:worthy: starbrite is great.

i have been using the stuff in the white bottle for the last 2 years and it looks great

flipper
01-07-2009, 12:32 PM
That's what I use. I like the "golden teak oil" which gives a little darker finish, most others here use the white bottle.

CameronCarey
01-07-2009, 12:37 PM
I used to listen to blowboaters talk about this all day ( when they get tired of eating wine and cheese and putting around with there sails rolled up they like to do there brightwork)..........they generally preferred Amazons products.........in my experience...... the work that goes in makes more of a difference than the product applied........

cynicism aside............. I use the amazon products and have had great results..

TMCNo1
01-07-2009, 12:48 PM
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43457

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http://mastercraft.com/teamtalk/mc2009/images/attach/pdf.gif TMCNo1 Teak Platform Tutorial.pdf (http://mastercraft.com/teamtalk/attachment.php?attachmentid=6841&d=1140472173)

Gonzo
01-07-2009, 02:05 PM
Go with No 1s article, you cant go wrong.

Gamble
01-18-2009, 02:18 AM
TMC No1, I must compliment you on your teak.........it is second to none. I have a 209 w/the teak platform. It appears to be a darker colored wood. Oiled up, it's nice, not near as nice as yours. What gives it that golden color on yours, is it the actual wood itself or what you did to it before you oiled it? Mine looks fine, but I sure like that lighter color look.

TMCNo1
01-18-2009, 11:24 AM
TMC No1, I must compliment you on your teak.........it is second to none. I have a 209 w/the teak platform. It appears to be a darker colored wood. Oiled up, it's nice, not near as nice as yours. What gives it that golden color on yours, is it the actual wood itself or what you did to it before you oiled it? Mine looks fine, but I sure like that lighter color look.

Our platform was somewhat dark to begin with , but the multiple coats of 43770 and 2000 wet sanding over 20 years had darkened it up due to the gold tint of the teak oil. You can see why, by the dried oil on the bottle I have been using,
43771
Up to 8 or 10 coats with sanding, should not darken it up to make a difference.

TMCNo1
01-18-2009, 11:50 AM
Just don't post a picture of it if it turns out nice or you'll be labeled like this,
43772

ski_king
01-18-2009, 01:13 PM
now, who would do that?

TMCNo1
01-18-2009, 01:25 PM
now, who would do that?

I burst out laughing every time I see that in my pictures! Thanks, http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/23/23_32_9.gif

mclovin
01-18-2009, 02:00 PM
boiled linseed oil from da depot(for tha lighter look)

brucemac
01-18-2009, 02:02 PM
glad this was posted. i was about to ask about the tilex. i had bought some on harold's advice, but was reading the back and says don't use on wood. i'll never doubt again. :) good to see it there in that picture. i'm starting today. sun's out so i figured i'd get outside and start by cleaning it up good today.

have to make two frickin' trips to town though. i don't have 400 grit. 220 or 1600 is all i have and i can't find our sanding block. probably going to try the brightener or cleaner brightener all in one too.

glad to finally figure out i've been using the wrong oil and i was going to buy the tropical one with the palm tree on it. last year i just used the star brite in the clear bottle, but i'd like a little darker finish.

off to west marine. i'll snap some pics.

TMCNo1
01-18-2009, 02:35 PM
glad this was posted. i was about to ask about the tilex. i had bought some on harold's advice, but was reading the back and says don't use on wood. i'll never doubt again. :) good to see it there in that picture. i'm starting today. sun's out so i figured i'd get outside and start by cleaning it up good today.

have to make two frickin' trips to town though. i don't have 400 grit. 220 or 1600 is all i have and i can't find our sanding block. probably going to try the brightener or cleaner brightener all in one too.

glad to finally figure out i've been using the wrong oil and i was going to buy the tropical one with the palm tree on it. last year i just used the star brite in the clear bottle, but i'd like a little darker finish.

off to west marine. i'll snap some pics.

I think the "do not use on wood" is intended more for finished furniture in that the bleach in Tilex might damage the finish. Starbrite Teak Cleaner and Brightener is much stronger than Tilex. Tilex works great on older platforms that have black mold and mildew in the grain, but you still can use a good biodegradeable cleaner to remove exhaust and lake water residue that also blackens the grain.
I have used Tilex and cleaner on my platform for all these years and it has no effect whatsoever on the Starbrite finish, but does clean it up down inbetween the slats and in the grooves.

TX.X-30 fan
01-18-2009, 03:46 PM
boiled linseed oil from da depot(for tha lighter look)

I like that look very nice job. Did the deck take in a few coats?


On a separate note do you pay anyone to give that transom the distressed look. :D

brucemac
01-18-2009, 04:41 PM
thanks harold, just got back from town. going to walk the kids to the park and come back and get some teak time. ;)

ski_king
01-18-2009, 05:26 PM
It seems to me there was a program on TV about refinishing and maintaining teak platforms.... but I can be wrong.

TMCNo1
01-18-2009, 05:58 PM
OMG, I'm laughing my butt off here! Ski King, http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/23/23_32_9.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZSfox000)

brucemac
01-18-2009, 07:12 PM
hee hee

well, i put a good hour into cleaning it. i tilexed, scrubbed, let her set. rinsed, repeated. also used some of west marine's branded cleaner/brightener. still have some black spots, at least i think. could be some of the grain maybe, but doubtful. also have some super stubborn spf 50 sunscreen from the kids that for the life of me i just can't get up. i even tried to go ahead and sand with 400, but couldn't get it up. boiling water, nothing. it's in there good. any ideas? it also looks like maybe the previous owners left something on the step while it was wet. there's like a square spot on one side that is just ever so slightly grey. maybe they left a cooler or something on it.

not sure what to do. should i let it dry and start over? should i try 220 grit? do i need a belt sander :) ?

TMCNo1
01-18-2009, 07:35 PM
hee hee

well, i put a good hour into cleaning it. i tilexed, scrubbed, let her set. rinsed, repeated. also used some of west marine's branded cleaner/brightener. still have some black spots, at least i think. could be some of the grain maybe, but doubtful. also have some super stubborn spf 50 sunscreen from the kids that for the life of me i just can't get up. i even tried to go ahead and sand with 400, but couldn't get it up. boiling water, nothing. it's in there good. any ideas? it also looks like maybe the previous owners left something on the step while it was wet. there's like a square spot on one side that is just ever so slightly grey. maybe they left a cooler or something on it.

not sure what to do. should i let it dry and start over? should i try 220 grit? do i need a belt sander :) ?

I'd block sand it a little with 220 dry and see what happens, even try some lacquer thinner on the spots to see what it does, it won't hurt it!

brucemac
01-18-2009, 07:55 PM
ewww good call. i didn't think about that. i have some too. going to let it dry this week and will work on it again next weekend. i checked it out again it does look better, but i do want to try again and i really want to get that sunscreen off. got enough time until spring so may as well do it right. thanks harold.

D3skier
01-18-2009, 08:17 PM
I think I'll just send my teak up to Harold to take care of for me before CSM '09

cf_koch
01-19-2009, 08:01 AM
McLovin-
Love the lighter look of your platform. How does boiled linseed oil hold up to the wet environment a swim platform is subjected to?

ski_king
01-19-2009, 10:29 AM
The MSDS of StarBrite Teak oil states it is a mixture of linseed oil and a type of kerosene.

http://www.starbrite.com/msdssheets/81616-msds-10-7-06.pdf

brucemac
01-19-2009, 11:34 AM
hey harold, i have kind of a dumb question. so after i get this thing all cleaned up and i've put my first coat of oil on and it's dry, do i wetsand or drysand with the 600 prior to the 2nd coat? if i dry sand, i'm assuming i can go ahead and apply the 2nd coat after i tack cloth it right? i've referred to the pdf a couple times, but wasn't sure about that.

brucemac
01-19-2009, 11:42 AM
and hey lastly, what do you mean by this, "consider applying the last coat by hand"

i'm assuming you mean don't use a brush, but if not a brush, what? thank you sir!

TMCNo1
01-19-2009, 11:47 AM
hey harold, i have kind of a dumb question. so after i get this thing all cleaned up and i've put my first coat of oil on and it's dry, do i wetsand or drysand with the 600 prior to the 2nd coat? if i dry sand, i'm assuming i can go ahead and apply the 2nd coat after i tack cloth it right? i've referred to the pdf a couple times, but wasn't sure about that.

I would apply at least two thin coats and let it dry between coats the first time, then wet sand with 600 the first time, tack and add two more thin coats allowing each coat to thoroughly dry. By sanding it smooth between each pair of coats your just about sanding one of the coats off. The more coats you apply and the finer you go with the sandpaper the glossier the finish will get. You can carry this as far as you want, it's up to you, but patience on the drying is necessary and after the first 2 coats, only apply thin coats by rubbing it on with your hand, not with a sponge, rag or brush. The thinner the coats, the faster it will dry and it won't build up and get gummy.

brucemac
01-19-2009, 11:59 AM
okay, got it, thank you. so wet sand each time and you literally mean use your hand to apply then. got it. thanks again!

flipper
01-19-2009, 12:00 PM
It seems to me there was a program on TV about refinishing and maintaining teak platforms.... but I can be wrong.

That's great!!!

mclovin
01-19-2009, 12:27 PM
I like that look very nice job. Did the deck take in a few coats?


On a separate note do you pay anyone to give that transom the distressed look. :D

2 coats did it for me, as for the transom theres 2 words i use after every outing(DAM KIDS) the good thing is its freeeeee!!!!!!!:D

JohnE
01-19-2009, 12:42 PM
okay, got it, thank you. so wet sand each time and you literally mean use your hand to apply then. got it. thanks again!


I didn't understand that he literally meant with your hand until I spoke with him on the phone about it.

Personally I used a good quality china bristle brush and had good results.

This year I may get to actually applying it with my hands.

TMCNo1
01-19-2009, 12:50 PM
I didn't understand that he literally meant with your hand until I spoke with him on the phone about it.

Personally I used a good quality china bristle brush and had good results.

This year I may get to actually applying it with my hands.


There ain't nothin' like oiling your wood out in the sun!http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/10/10_12_9.gif

Sodar
01-19-2009, 12:54 PM
I think this needs to be reposted. Read the wording VERY carefully. It might be winter, but there has to be more interesting stuff to talk about than hand rubbing wood with oil. :rolleyes:

http://www.mastercraft.com/teamtalk/attachment.php?attachmentid=43457&d=1231350509



:D :D

TMCNo1
01-19-2009, 01:00 PM
I think this needs to be reposted. Read the wording VERY carefully. It might be winter, but there has to be more interesting stuff to talk about than hand rubbing wood with oil. :rolleyes:

http://www.mastercraft.com/teamtalk/attachment.php?attachmentid=43457&d=1231350509






Thanks, but you must have missed my post # 5 in this thread!!!!!!!!http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/36/36_19_1.gif

Sodar
01-19-2009, 01:01 PM
Thanks, but you must have missed my post # 5 in this thread!!!!!!!!http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/36/36_19_1.gif

That is why I said read it carefully... no one, not even you were taking the advice!

Teak
ENOUGH ALREADY

TMCNo1
01-19-2009, 01:18 PM
That is why I said read it carefully... no one, not even you were taking the advice!

Teak
ENOUGH ALREADY


:uglyhamme:uglyhamme:uglyhammeEvery time I try to take my own advise, I get in a argument with myself, get in a fight and beat myself up!
Does Bi-Polar mean there is a bear in Antarctica that looks just like me?

Sodar
01-19-2009, 01:20 PM
:uglyhamme:uglyhamme:uglyhammeEvery time I try to take my own advise, I get in a argument with myself, get in a fight and beat myself up!
Does Bi-Polar mean there is a bear in Antarctica that looks just like me?

Internal battles are hard and no matter what you chose, you always lose. :D

brucemac
01-19-2009, 02:02 PM
hey go install your speakers already

i want to do it right, what's wrong with that, yeah there's tuns of info already, but i'm finally getting down to doing it and want to do it right. i realize it's not rocket science, but i can't afford a new platform atm and want it to look good for spring so buzz off :p

TX.X-30 fan
01-19-2009, 02:08 PM
2 coats did it for me, as for the transom theres 2 words i use after every outing(DAM KIDS) the good thing is its freeeeee!!!!!!!:D

I have 2 of those and a wife, damn family. :D


Put your board on off the back or swim for it. :D

Sodar
01-19-2009, 02:11 PM
I have 2 of those and a wife, damn family. :D


Put your board on off the back or swim for it. :D

Have 2 what?

Gonzo
01-19-2009, 02:16 PM
Sodar,

Why are you even looking at this thread with your Glass Platform? Could it be Teak Envy? :D:D8p


43800

Sodar
01-19-2009, 02:24 PM
Sodar,

Why are you even looking at this thread with your Glass Platform? Could it be Teak Envy? :D:D8p


43800

Nope. If you would search the other 1300 teak threads, you would realize that I have a teak platform, also.

1 of 1,392 Teak Threads (http://mastercraft.com/teamtalk/showpost.php?p=551707&postcount=131)

brucemac
01-19-2009, 02:29 PM
pointless...

Sodar
01-19-2009, 02:32 PM
pointless...

precisely...

flipper
01-19-2009, 02:35 PM
pointless...

precisely...



Oh so true....

Gonzo
01-19-2009, 02:37 PM
Nope. If you would search the other 1300 teak threads, you would realize that I have a teak platform, also.

1 of 1,392 Teak Threads (http://mastercraft.com/teamtalk/showpost.php?p=551707&postcount=131)

ROFL, See thats my point I cant keep up.... how am I supposed to know whicih of the 1392 have the info I need. This is all so confusing, Im going to start an impeller thread, I cant seem to get mine out.:D

wakeX2wake
01-19-2009, 02:41 PM
ROFL, See thats my point I cant keep up.... how am I supposed to know whicih of the 1392 have the info I need. This is all so confusing, Im going to start an impeller thread, I cant seem to get mine out.:D

hahahaha... and all i want to know is what kind of oil and transmission fluid to put in mine

Sodar
01-19-2009, 02:42 PM
hahahaha... and all i want to know is what kind of oil and transmission fluid to put in mine

Before you do that, be sure to find out what filter will work.

And be certain NOT to check the owner's manual... that never works!

Gonzo
01-19-2009, 02:54 PM
Before you do that, be sure to find out what filter will work.

And be certain NOT to check the owner's manual... that never works!

See here we go again! I dont have an owners manual, I should start a thread to see where I can find one online.

Sodar
01-19-2009, 02:58 PM
See here we go again! I dont have an owners manual, I should start a thread to see where I can find one online.


I just happen to have a 1991 Owner's Manual here. (http://www.mastercraft.com/knowledge/owners_manuals/) How much you wanna pay for it?

flipper
01-19-2009, 02:59 PM
$7 Pram pays shipping

brucemac
01-19-2009, 03:02 PM
arrogance must be bliss sodar

and before you reply back with some crack about ignorance, i'll save you the trouble

pound sand

flipper
01-19-2009, 03:04 PM
So are you saying Sodar is arrogant, ignorant, or telling him to pound sand????

mclovin
01-19-2009, 03:11 PM
McLovin-
Love the lighter look of your platform. How does boiled linseed oil hold up to the wet environment a swim platform is subjected to?

itll last all season, 9 month season. we do alot of ballast so when where riding & between sets the platform"teak" is submerged. never had any problems with rainbows or slippery finishes.

brucemac
01-19-2009, 03:13 PM
flipper come on man

seriously. i just get tired of the condescending **** around here some times.

i mean yeah, could i search 1300 threads about teak and find my answers, sure yeah probably in about an hour. it takes a long time to weed through all that irrelevant stuff and why not grab the answers straight from the master while you have his ear? just sayin'.

if you don't want to read a teak thread, why the heck to you feel the need to come in, read it and then start with the passive aggressive bs? again, just sayin'.

Sodar
01-19-2009, 03:19 PM
Bruce, I am sorry if you felt I was directing any of my posts to you. You have obviously not been around here long enough to understand and play along with the jokes that are made on this site. It is a LONG standing jokes about teak, impellers, oil and oil filters that we joke about it.

Harold is one of the coolest guys I have ever had the pleasure of conversing with. Even he, the King of Teak, was not hurt or insultated by any of my remarks and he was the one that the posts were being directed towards!

I would have to say that you are the one with the agressive behavior and insulting posts.

mclovin
01-19-2009, 03:19 PM
Have 2 what?

transom bangers (kids)

Sodar
01-19-2009, 03:20 PM
transom bangers (kids)

Noted .

brucemac
01-19-2009, 03:26 PM
fair enough. and i'm sorry i took your comments out of context. just trying to get a little help from the master. i take back the sand comment. feel free to pound a pillow or whatever you like. ;)

Sodar
01-19-2009, 03:29 PM
fair enough. and i'm sorry i took your comments out of context. just trying to get a little help from the master. i take back the sand comment. feel free to pound a pillow or whatever you like. ;)

How about your wife? 8p

Now, that was directed toward you and you have every right to be angry at me. I just wanted to clarify when I am directing a post toward you and not directing a post toward you.

Have a good day.

So are you saying Sodar is arrogant, ignorant, or telling him to pound sand????

Flip, it was directed toward you. You are all of the above and I am offended.

TMCNo1
01-19-2009, 03:30 PM
Just call me the Coz of Teak!http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/1/1_4_40.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZSfox000)http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/5/5_8_11.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZSfox000)

Sodar
01-19-2009, 03:32 PM
Just call me the Coz of Teak!http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/1/1_4_40.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZSfox000)http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/5/5_8_11.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZSfox000)

I would never insult someone so harshly and call them the Coz of anything.

brucemac
01-19-2009, 03:32 PM
How about your wife? 8p

Now, that was directed toward you and you have every right to be angry at me. I just wanted to clarify when I am directing a post toward you and not directing a post toward you.

Have a good day.

lol, you couldn't handle my wife

hey i'm sorry. i don't know why that set me off so bad, it just did. it must be the sensitivity training :D

flipper
01-19-2009, 03:33 PM
flipper come on man

seriously. i just get tired of the condescending **** around here some times.

i mean yeah, could i search 1300 threads about teak and find my answers, sure yeah probably in about an hour. it takes a long time to weed through all that irrelevant stuff and why not grab the answers straight from the master while you have his ear? just sayin'.

if you don't want to read a teak thread, why the heck to you feel the need to come in, read it and then start with the passive aggressive bs? again, just sayin'.

I didn't mean anything by it.....just messin' around:o

JohnE
01-19-2009, 03:34 PM
Discussions like this are why people don't read through 1300 teak threads.:D

brucemac
01-19-2009, 03:34 PM
sorry flipper, sorry guys. 30 lashes.

flipper
01-19-2009, 03:36 PM
Ban Sodar!!!!!!

Sodar
01-19-2009, 03:40 PM
Ban Sodar!!!!!!


x2...

This guy is way outta control.

TMCNo1
01-19-2009, 03:49 PM
I think with the next purchase of a new boat or MasterCraft parts or Team Talk membership, everyone should get a free trip to a 2 day Dale Carnegie "How to Win Friends and Influence People" Seminar!
I'm in, maybe they haven't ever heard about Teak!

Gonzo
01-19-2009, 03:53 PM
Discussions like this are why people don't read through 1300 teak threads.:D

Now that is the most accurate statement of this whole darn thread!

TMCNo1
01-19-2009, 04:28 PM
From here on out, anybody with teak questions, email Al Gore!

Sodar
01-19-2009, 04:31 PM
From here on out, anybody with teak questions, email Al Gore!

He did invent the internet, after all!

mclovin
01-19-2009, 06:09 PM
where is COZ?

TMCNo1
01-19-2009, 06:13 PM
where is COZ?

He hasn't been on since the 9th, must have got fed up!

JohnE
01-19-2009, 06:18 PM
He hasn't been on since the 9th, must have got fed up!

WooHoo!!!!!!:dance::toast::woohoo::banana:

TX.X-30 fan
01-19-2009, 06:51 PM
WooHoo!!!!!!:toast::woohoo::banana:


That snake eat him?? 8p

Gonzo
01-19-2009, 08:53 PM
Did I miss something, I always got a kick out of Coz and his ginormous pictures

Gamble
01-19-2009, 11:17 PM
Cameron, what's up w/ DS.............is it broke?

mclovin
01-20-2009, 12:20 AM
Did I miss something, I always got a kick out of Coz and his ginormous pictures

i bought 2 side by side monitors to see his photos and he dissapears! it just aint right

JohnE
01-20-2009, 07:35 AM
Did I miss something, I always got a kick out of Coz and his ginormous pictures


Those ginormous pic's bug the hell out of me and at least a few others.

The shirtless pics of him and his snake take a close second.

Add to that the 20 or so useless posts every day.

Aside from that he was good to have around.

TMCNo1
01-20-2009, 08:00 AM
Those ginormous pic's bug the hell out of me and at least a few others.

The shirtless pics of him and his snake take a close second.

Add to that the 20 or so useless posts every day.

Aside from that he was good to have around.


Now I know what not to do!:rolleyes::D

JohnE
01-20-2009, 08:34 AM
Now I know what not to do!:rolleyes::D

Almost 19,000 posts, you certainly do.:D

I think ol coz was trying to catch you.......