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jay73
12-11-2008, 04:59 AM
Hi guys (and girls maybe)

just wanted to say hi to the forum, Just got my 1st mastercraft which is an early 80's stars and stripes, sorry about the picture quality but the weathers terrible over here in the u.k. at the moment.

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k185/jay73/29112008146.jpg

am currently undergoing full floor and stringer replacement over winter ready for the summer season.
For the eagle eyed you'll notice its a very early 80's model which should have the curved single piece screen butthe later 3 piece screen has been fitted at some stage in the boats life.

cant seem to find much info on black and silver s&s models just wondering if anyone knew how many were made back in the day?

ProStar Slalom
12-11-2008, 07:54 AM
Welcome and congrats on the purchase. The S&Ss are great boats; our '84 is at 1200+ hours and still running strong.

coz
12-11-2008, 07:55 AM
That looks like a fun project Jay, congrats and good luck with everything :headbang:

Screens? do you mean windshield? on this side of the pond that's what we call them.

You probably have a bunch of yanks searching that pic for window screens :banana:

Be sure and post those restoration pics :D

jay73
12-11-2008, 08:48 AM
oops sorry yes meant windshield :D that'll be the over pond translation..

will get some pics of the floor rip out posted up later (uk time)

mines showing 177 hours after replacement engine.. she's got the V8 ford with holley carb and mallory ign system and powerslot trans

TMCNo1
12-11-2008, 08:57 AM
Welcome to Team Talk!

Gamble
12-11-2008, 09:58 AM
welcome aboard.........can't beat an 'ol stars and stripes.

Slinkyredfoot
12-11-2008, 10:05 AM
welcome aboard.........can't beat an 'ol stars and stripes.

I totally agree with Gamble and welcome

Slinkyredfoot
12-11-2008, 10:08 AM
By the way, almost looks like a 79 with the flat bump board on the trailer, the textured deck, and the flat front air intake..

cbryan70
12-11-2008, 10:16 AM
By the way, almost looks like a 79 with the flat bump board on the trailer, the textured deck, and the flat front air intake..

Yeah i was thinking it was older than 80's mines a 78 and looks the same....except the windshield.

jay73
12-11-2008, 11:00 AM
thanks for the year input guys your probably correct (thats why I posted up here !!)
it was originally advertised as a 1985 which I knew clearly it wasnt as my friend has an 85 model and they are not that alike..

yes it has textured gelcoat top, and would of had a curved "windshield" I guessed at early 80's as I couldnt date it.. thought it might have been 80/81 as I believe the 3 section windshield came out over here in the uk in around 81.

the id plate thats fitted has only u.s. markings.. i'll take a photo of it later and post it up see if any of you guys can shed any light as to its history?

Am really interested in finding out about the black & silver S&S as I cant find anything on google or images of a black one.

Just want to find out its rarity factor really, the area that I live in has only ever had 1 black and silver s&s one on the lake about 20 years ago that had a broken curved windshield which then disapeared from the area, but I believe I may have just purchased this the exact same boat some 150 miles away and moved it back to its former location.. I am pretty sure its the same boat as I have had it confirmed by people that still live in the area who knew of its existance.

I had the cash to purchase a newer boat in a lot better condition (i.e. not requiring floor and stringers) and I wasnt intending on doing major amounts of work but was just a total sucker for this black one and it came at a bargain price too..

If anyone can help with numbers of black ones from the era in the states and or uk I would be really appreciative

ChicagoX55
12-11-2008, 11:13 AM
welcome to the board!

russlars
12-11-2008, 11:16 AM
oops sorry yes meant windshield :D that'll be the over pond translation..


Just as long as you don't start showing us the "boot" and the "bonnet" we'll be okay with you over on this side of the pond!:D

454Prostar190
12-11-2008, 11:41 AM
Welcome:) I'm also an S and S owner!

jbfootin
12-11-2008, 11:45 AM
welcome to the board! For most everything, if you have a question on MC, someone here has the answer!

Dball
12-11-2008, 12:04 PM
Welcome, I'm also redoing a S&S 86 pulling motor and trans this weekend for paint and bilge cleaning.

jay73
12-11-2008, 12:07 PM
Just as long as you don't start showing us the "boot" and the "bonnet" we'll be okay with you over on this side of the pond!

that'll be "trunk" and "hood" then right?? ;)

see i'm picking it up slowly :D

coz
12-11-2008, 12:12 PM
that'll be "trunk" and "hood" then right?? ;)

see i'm picking it up slowly :D

Blimey! the man's got it :headbang: he's in :D

flipper
12-11-2008, 12:13 PM
Welcom to the board. Nice lookin' boat you have

JMann
12-11-2008, 12:34 PM
This should help identify the year of your boat. It explains how to read the serial number on the back imprinted in the gel coat.
http://mastercraft.com/teamtalk/showpost.php?p=160875&postcount=32

flipper
12-11-2008, 12:38 PM
This should help identify the year of your boat. It explains how to read the serial number on the back imprinted in the gel coat.
http://mastercraft.com/teamtalk/showpost.php?p=160875&postcount=32

I'm not positive, but I don't think this will apply to the earlier years like this one.

damaged442
12-11-2008, 12:40 PM
The black and silver color combo looks awesome on that boat! I don't have any idea how many were made in that color combo, but I know I've never seen another one! Keep up posted on your progress with it!! Good luck!

Jesus_Freak
12-11-2008, 12:42 PM
Welcome to the forum. I've been to the lake district...the beauty makes up for the weather. :)

M-Funf
12-11-2008, 01:44 PM
Welcome! I think the textured deck was only available from '76 through '79, right? The HIN picture will tell the truth. Mine looks like this:

It's a '76

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jay73
12-11-2008, 01:48 PM
Welcome! I think the textured deck was only available from '76 through '79, right? The HIN picture will tell the truth. Mine looks like this:

where is that located on the boat?

Welcome to the forum. I've been to the lake district...the beauty makes up for the weather.

lol you've definately been here knowing that lol...

flipper
12-11-2008, 01:49 PM
on the back, right corner of the boat

M-Funf
12-11-2008, 01:58 PM
on the back, right corner of the boat

Yup. Top right corner of the transom.

jay73
12-11-2008, 02:03 PM
just been out and had a quick look, it is dark over here at the minute (7pm) couldnt see anything obvious, i'll be working on it over the weekend again so will have a look in the daylight..

going to start a fresh "restoration" topic in the appropriate section with some pics which i will upload shortly..

coz
12-11-2008, 02:16 PM
i'll be working on it over the weekend again so will have a look in the daylight..

..

Do they make these over there Jay :confused:

http://www.ebatteriestogo.com/images/Flashlight.jpg
http://prodimages.branders.com/img/custom_Bic_Lighter/Home_Housewares/Bic_Lighter-04826_bs.jpg

They work pretty good in the dark :headbang:

jay73
12-11-2008, 02:19 PM
lol yes they do, prob is its raining heavy and i didnt want to get wet !

jay73
12-11-2008, 02:20 PM
check out the technical forum in a bit guys i'm gonna upload some pics for ya

coz
12-11-2008, 02:22 PM
lol yes they do, prob is its raining heavy and i didnt want to get wet !

http://www.drafthorseclothing-bigandtall.com/images/carhartt_pvc_raincoat-yellow.jpg

No more excuses unless you're having tornado or earthquake issues :D

jay73
12-11-2008, 02:54 PM
lol yeh got that one covered too ! it just aint worth pulling the cover off as she's under 3 tarps and a rather unwaterproof boat cover at the moment.. it'll get done 4 sure as its bugging the hell outta me now !

mlay
12-11-2008, 03:02 PM
I totally agree with Gamble and welcome

welcome aboard.........can't beat an 'ol stars and stripes.

Agreed, mine is an '82 SS and love it. Someone supplied this a while back and it helped me with information on mine. Hope it helps you as well.

Here is a simple guide to reading your hull ID.
There are some exceptions to this due to last minute order changes so PLEASE view this as a GUIDELINE.
Example: MBCAXAA1K304 The MBC (first three positions) stands for... you guessed it MasterCraft Boat Company. Position
4 = Engine type A= 5.7 TBI 1:1, C= 5.7 TBI PowerSlot, T= 8.1, H= 8.1 VRS, M= MCX 1:1, N= MCX 1.56 or VRS, U= 6.0 1:1, Z= 6.0 VRS Position
5 = Boat type A= PS190, B= PS190TT, C=PS197TT, X=PS197, T=PS209, V=MS230, U=MS210, L=X-Star, H=MS280, 2=PS205V
Positions 6,7 and 8 Sequential serial number (never repeated in a model year)
Position 9 = Month made A=JAN, B=FEB, C=MAR, D=APR, E=MAY, F=JUN, G=JUL, H=AUG, I=SEP, J=OCT, K=NOV, L=DEC
Position 10 = Year made Use the last digit of the year made. In the example above the year made would be 2003 but the boat is a 2004 model.
Positions 11 & 12 = Model Year The last two digits of the model year go here.
The above example is a 2004.

As for engine/transmission combos for older boats.
U = 351 HO with 1:1
P = 351 with 1.5:1
S = 351 with 1:1

Slinkyredfoot
12-11-2008, 04:01 PM
for the older boats I believe the serial number breaks down like this for example....

MBCA0419M79G

MBC denotes Master Craft Boat

A04 denotes the serial number

19 denotes the model ie 19 feet

M79G dnotes the month and year of production

454Prostar190
12-11-2008, 04:35 PM
for the older boats I believe the serial number breaks down like this for example....

MBCA0419M79G

MBC denotes Master Craft Boat

A04 denotes the serial number

19 denotes the model ie 19 feet

M79G dnotes the month and year of production

This is good information! Mine is a bit different though, as my 5th digit is a letter rather than a number.

My S and S reads like this: MBCAK719M82A-D

The fellow at Nor-Cal MasterCraft told me that the -D was for "Demo" as it was built for Marineworld.

Anyone know if this is correct?

kbrew
12-11-2008, 05:46 PM
i had the exact same boat. mine was a 78. to my knowledge, there were only six made in that color for 78. that was the coolest boat i've ever owned. i'm on my 4th MC now and still wish i had that first one back. i'll try and find some of my old pics to post up.

super badass boat man.

jay73
12-12-2008, 04:28 AM
pic now in the tech area of the rebuild

JohnnyB
12-12-2008, 08:35 AM
pic now in the tech area of the rebuild

???????????:confused:

JohnnyB
12-12-2008, 08:54 AM
Figured it out :D

M-Funf
12-12-2008, 12:20 PM
Do they make these over there Jay :confused:


They work pretty good in the dark :headbang:

Yeah, but it's called a Torch...8p

SunCoast 83
12-14-2008, 12:38 AM
Congrats and welcome to the board. That is a rare one, most do not have the reverse color scheme unless it was an special edition. 1978 - Was it a 10th Anniversary Edition?? Did they make such a thing then? Master Craft did produce a 20 yr. "Platinum ProStar" in 1988.