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Prostar Rich
12-10-2008, 08:44 AM
Check out Silver Creek -- a pretty cool video of the Michigan Proving Grounds and the new F150.


http://www.fordvehicles.com/2009f150/

Prostar Rich

TMCNo1
12-10-2008, 08:52 AM
Check out Silver Creek -- a pretty cool video of the Michigan Proving Grounds and the new F150.


http://www.fordvehicles.com/2009f150/

Prostar Rich



Woooooo, that's scary!

Datdude
12-10-2008, 11:41 AM
The Tundra did well in "Silver Creek":rolleyes:

uncleboo
12-10-2008, 11:52 AM
I wish they would have test the Nissan Titan

454Prostar190
12-10-2008, 12:06 PM
Check out Silver Creek -- a pretty cool video of the Michigan Proving Grounds and the new F150.


http://www.fordvehicles.com/2009f150/

Prostar Rich

That was pretty good though as far as the fuel mileage, the Ford is running a 4.6 litre V8 compared to the larger engines in the rest of the line up.

Looks like a nice truck!

russlars
12-10-2008, 12:09 PM
I wish they would have test the Nissan Titan
I noticed that ommission also! That usually means that they didn't find enough negatives with it to list it in the tests. May have even outperformed the F-150. That being said, I am also a big Ford fan also. My '97 F-150 is still going strong at 190,000 miles and has never let me down.:D

ChicagoX55
12-10-2008, 12:31 PM
I had a 97 f-150 and loved it! Great truck!

coz
12-10-2008, 12:33 PM
That being said, I am also a big Ford fan also. My '97 F-150 is still going strong at 190,000 miles and has never let me down.:D

Me too :D 02 w/65k miles and I think it's the best riding truck out there and I'm sure the new ones are even better.

Jesus_Freak
12-10-2008, 12:38 PM
Me too :D 02 w/65k miles and I think it's the best riding truck out there and I'm sure the new ones are even better.

Man, I like that KX!

454Prostar190
12-10-2008, 12:51 PM
My daily driver is a 2007 Silverado that I am very happy with and I've been getting about 16 to 18mpg average but, in those handling tests.... The Ford bested it.

coz
12-10-2008, 01:04 PM
Man, I like that KX!

Thanks, it's old school just like me :D

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2159/2089248244_e583547cac_b.jpg

jwroblew
12-10-2008, 06:41 PM
I think the Nissan was not even worth testing. I remember hearing somewhere that they have a 600 day supply of the truck on dealer lots. Plus they are being made at the dodge plant, so the build quality isn't probably so good.

Jesus_Freak
12-11-2008, 12:44 PM
Thanks, it's old school just like me :D

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2159/2089248244_e583547cac_b.jpg

That is definitely what I am talking about! What year is that? I got out of the sport in the early 90s, and that bike looks alot like one I had then.

coz
12-11-2008, 12:53 PM
That is definitely what I am talking about! What year is that? I got out of the sport in the early 90s, and that bike looks alot like one I had then.

It's a 1993 and I bought it a few years ago from a guy who bought it new and used it a few times then stuck it in the corner of the garage and there it sat until I bought it. As you can see it's box stock except the renthal bars and in great condition :D

kycat2007
12-11-2008, 02:20 PM
They should do test on why the Ford dealer cant figure out the abs light signal on the old Explorer I had.
Or which seats were more comfortable as I feel some Chevy's are just more comfortable.

uncleboo
12-11-2008, 03:04 PM
I think the Nissan was not even worth testing. I remember hearing somewhere that they have a 600 day supply of the truck on dealer lots. Plus they are being made at the dodge plant, so the build quality isn't probably so good.

I guess that is your opinion, but I think the truest test would be to compare it to all of the competitive full size trucks out there. I like seeing these "head to head" tests so the consumer can make the best choice for their needs. The Titans are being made in Canton, MS at their Nissan plant. The future plan is to build them at the Dodge plant, but that isn't until 2010 and I believe that joint venture may be in danger if the big three don't get bailed out. They have approximately 160 days inventory for the Titan. (600 days and they wouldn't be in business any more. ):rolleyes:

Ubugme2
12-11-2008, 07:22 PM
2007 GMC ALL THE WAY BABY!!! Love my Truck and have no complaints. I run a 32 all terrain tires with 20inch wheels and a 3 inch lift and still get 16 in the city. 12 pulling my pro star at 80mph! I also pull an 18 foot car trailer with 5 quads and fully loaded with gear and 5 people in the truck, it pulls like a dream. My truck is pictured in other threds. (Tow vehicles). I would buy it again if i had to.

ski_king
12-11-2008, 07:45 PM
Cool video.
When I was looking at the ford site building a new F-150 the other day, I saw they have the option of a 3.08 rear axle. I am sure that is what they used for the fuel tests. Not a good ratio to use in the real truck world.

I also had a 97 F-150 and traded it in with 131K on it to get a 2008. Love both trucks.

Jesus_Freak
12-15-2008, 12:21 PM
It's a 1993 and I bought it a few years ago from a guy who bought it new and used it a few times then stuck it in the corner of the garage and there it sat until I bought it. As you can see it's box stock except the renthal bars and in great condition :D

Very cool. Looks excellent. I think my last KX250 was a '90. Definitely miss it, but boating keeps the bank account so low, there is nothing left for MX'ing.

russlars
12-15-2008, 12:35 PM
I think the Nissan was not even worth testing. I remember hearing somewhere that they have a 600 day supply of the truck on dealer lots. Plus they are being made at the dodge plant, so the build quality isn't probably so good.
Not likely. If it performed poorly in the test it would boost their image even more. Why would they miss out on an opportunity to slam a competitor? My hunch is that they did test it and it performed well so they left it out of the sales ad. By the way, have you driven a Titan lately? :)(borrowing from an old Ford sales pitch):)

bigmac
12-15-2008, 12:38 PM
Over the last 15 years, I've spent at least a couple of weeks every year in Haiti. The best roads in that country are worse than those speed bump test roads. Since most of the vehicles used down there are donations from the US, I've seen a wide variety of American trucks and SUV's. Let me just observe that in the hospital and town where I work there (Pignon), they won't even accept a donation of any American-made vehicles anymore. The suspensions of Jeeps, GM's and Fords simply do not hold up. They really prize Toyotas because the engines tend to be more reliable, but they are pretty expensive so we usually end up with Mitsubishi trucks. They are by far more reliable than any US-made vehicle they've ever used down there.

Jesus_Freak
12-15-2008, 12:53 PM
Over the last 15 years, I've spent at least a couple of weeks every year in Haiti. The best roads in that country are worse than those speed bump test roads. Since most of the vehicles used down there are donations from the US, I've seen a wide variety of American trucks and SUV's. Let me just observe that in the hospital and town where I work there (Pignon), they won't even accept a donation of any American-made vehicles anymore. The suspensions of Jeeps, GM's and Fords simply do not hold up. They really prize Toyotas because the engines tend to be more reliable, but they are pretty expensive so we usually end up with Mitsubishi trucks. They are by far more reliable than any US-made vehicle they've ever used down there.

Interesting...I dont really have a pony in the race on this one, but I like a parametric study as much as the next geek. These data say nothing about how the suspensions compare for non-extreme conditions (US roads). This just says that when certain components are pushed in magnitude and/or frequency, the Mitsus and Yotas hold up better.?.? It is conceivable that in a different environment, other components may or may not be running near their design thresholds. Am I reading you?

bigmac
12-15-2008, 01:28 PM
Interesting...I dont really have a pony in the race on this one, but I like a parametric study as much as the next geek. These data say nothing about how the suspensions compare for non-extreme conditions (US roads). This just says that when certain components are pushed in magnitude and/or frequency, the Mitsus and Yotas hold up better.?.? It is conceivable that in a different environment, other components may or may not be running near their design thresholds. Am I reading you?I don't have a pony either. I drive a GM, but the central highland region of Haiti is littered with dead GM trucks and frames. Ford is not better, nor is Jeep.

Otherwise, yes. The suspensions of a Mitsubishi/Toyota probably won't last any longer on American roads (during a typical American vehicle lifespan) than a GM/Ford, but I can guarantee you that those vehicles are worlds apart in terms of durability in the third world. I suspect therefore that the concept of durability testing at the Michigan proving grounds is pretty pointless. Especially for the typical American who won't come even close to pushing their vehicle beyond its design specs.

spanielman50
12-15-2008, 10:34 PM
Picked Up My New 4x4 Reg Cab Short Box Tundra Last Monday,,,,,,,,,i've Had 8 Trucks In The Last 18 Yrs And This Is The Hottest Truck I've Driven By Far,,,,,,,,the Six Speed Is Impressive And With The Trd Perf Pack I'm At 400 Hp,,,,,,,,20 Mpg,,,,,,they're Building A Great Truck,,,,,,,,,did I Say It Has A 6 Speed,,,,,,can't Way To Hook Up The 88 Prostar
Ps But At 5 Below And 20 Below Wind Chill It'll Be Awhile

CottagerGreg
12-15-2008, 10:40 PM
I am going to buy a year old and with about 10-20k miles... about 1/2 the price of brand new!