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captain planet
11-06-2008, 01:16 PM
Anyone have any opinions on this engine? Good, bad, or otherwise?

My company truck is dying/dead. Looking at a new truck, Ranger. However since we can get an '08 F150 (with the 4.6L) for 2K less than an 08 Ranger, we are considering the F150. However I don't know much about this engine so I figured this would be a good place to ask the question.

cbryan70
11-06-2008, 01:35 PM
Its a dog to pull with i know that much. But im sure its better then a ranger

Ski-A-Rees
11-06-2008, 01:38 PM
I have a 1997 Ford F-250 with the 4.6L V8 and I can't complain. It's almost 12 years old and it has soooo many miles that the odometer has stoped working. Its a V8 so don't expect amazing gas milage but milage is better than most. It doesn't pull bad but it's not going to win the race. I pull my mastercraft and other team boats, docks, equiptment trailers and it has never let me down. Never overheated! (knock on wood) I will also say that I think Ford has the best breaks.

Other things that might be interesting...
This is the same motor that they use in the Mustang GT editions. So which some money spent you can make it sound and perform better.

etduc
11-06-2008, 01:39 PM
I like them. I use them, alot in my business. My last Ford F150 I drove, had over 180,000 on the engine. When I whiched trucks. Tows reasonly well. If you tow alot, consider the 5.8 engine. (Deals are out there.) Also, the v-6 Ranger is a very good package.

Ranger is too small, for my needs. Ford is due to release new Trucks in the 2010-2012 model years. Mainly, adding a new F100, mid size truck.

russlars
11-06-2008, 02:05 PM
Unfortunately I can't tell you much about the Ford 4.6L but I can tell you about the 5.4L which has been available for quite awhile and I have in my '97 F-150. It has been a great engine. Nearly 200,000 miles and still going strong. Doesn't use any oil and still pulls strong. Of course it has had impecable maintenance and never been abused! At the time I was making my decision on those two engine types when I bought the truck, I had some tell me that the 4.6 was good for everyday driving, but stuggled if you towed much with it. At that time the average MPG only differed by about 1 MPG.:twocents:

thijs
11-06-2008, 02:10 PM
Well it has been said that the 4.6L is used in the Mustangs and has been for a while now. They are easily built up over 300-400hp (if that is your thing). But another thing to consider is that an engine like that which is never built up will last so much longer. It is also the same block as the Crown Vic (almost ALL police cruisers), and those 260hp engines must last for Ford to have dominated the market for police fleet vehicles. (Interesting note is that in 2003/2004 Ford badged a Mercury Marauder off the Marquis/Crown Vic and that engine comes stock 300hp. A small supercharger brings that up to 410 at least without detonation/etc. Very hot cars!!)

I am an owner of a Ranger and it is in deed small. They have almost no trailering capacity and actually are pretty hard on fuel. It has been a very reliable truck, especially considering I have beat that little thing pretty hard for 133000 KM now. It is very solid and although it cannot pull the boat on the highway, you can throw a piss load of weight in the back without overloading the springs (unlike my friends' Sonoma's/S10's). I have the 3.0, but should have gone for the 4.0.

Good luck and I would gop for the 150 with the larger V8 if it were me. This way you will not begrudge your vehicle. I have made an oath, myself, that I would never skimp on engine again. Not after the 3.0 Ranger I have now.

Marauder movie (I believe I may heav posted this a long time ago): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkAvZ--umWs

(Edit: I just wanted to add that I am very seriously considering swapping in a 4.6 in a year or two once the 3.0 is getting tired.)

captain planet
11-06-2008, 02:32 PM
Funny you should mention the 3.0 L engine. My company Ranger (3.0L engine) has 180K miles on it and it runs great. This last week on the way back from CT, the tranny overheated. I had it looked at on Tuesday this week and out mechanic said it would be fine around town, but taking it on long trips is out of the question. Plus he said it was only a matter of time before it failed.

That being said, for my purposes, a Ranger is ideal. I don't haul much heavy stuff, I don't have to tow anything for work, but I need a bed for hauling light equipment. I can get a 4X4 Ranger in and out of a site easier in some instances due to it being lighter than an F150. But, since the company can buy a full sized truck cheaper than a Ranger, this is what they are thinking. I want a Ranger, they want to save $$. Imagine that!

On a side note, I had a Ranger with the 4.0L and it towed my PS190 well.

ski_king
11-06-2008, 02:36 PM
I had a 97 F-150 that had the 5.4 which had 240 hp. It had decent power. A fiiend had the identical truck with the 4.6 and it was a little underpowered for pulling his ski boat in the hill we have around here.
The 2008 4.6 has more HP and about the same torque that my 97 5.4 had. I say go for it. Great prices out there.

I got my new one (08) with the 5.4 while the picking was still good. Not many left on the lots, but they are about giving the 08 Fords and Chevys away.

captain planet
11-06-2008, 02:41 PM
I had a 97 F-150 that had the 5.4 which had 240 hp. It had decent power. A fiiend had the identical truck with the 4.6 and it was a little underpowered for pulling his ski boat in the hill we have around here.
The 2008 4.6 has more HP and about the same torque that my 97 5.4 had. I say go for it. Great prices out there.

I got my new one (08) with the 5.4 while the picking was still good. Not many left on the lots, but they are about giving the 08 Fords and Chevys away.

I was quoted an 08 F150 extended cab, 4X4, 4.6L, STX, for around 18K. An 08 4X4 Ranger, 4.0L was 20K.

thijs
11-06-2008, 03:01 PM
I guess I should verify that once I am tired of the 3.0 is more likely what is going to happen. The Vulcan (the name for the 3.0 format) is a very stout and bomb-proof engine. It is just a little hard to find power upgrades for it and I have always wanted a sleeper. Like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q79YMawsnkE

(I don't condone street racing)

Andyg
11-06-2008, 03:14 PM
My wife has a 4.6 L V-8 in her 2005 Ford Explorer. She uses her truck for work and has about 125,000 miles on it without any significant problems. In 125,000 miles we have had to replace a belt idler pulley and a pump body on the transmission for the torque convertor lock up. I have towed my 197 with it and it holds it owns, but like others have said it isn't going to set any land speed records towing. Gas mileage is ok. I think she averages about 18-19 on the highway and probably around 14-15 around town.

My dad had the 4.6L V-8 in his 97 F150 with a manual transmission. He never had a problem with his engine either,. That is until one day it started running really rough with about 80,000 miles on it. He took it to the dealer and all they did was replace the plugs and it fixed the problem. I think he had well over a 130,000 miles on it when he sold it. He bought my 2002 F-150 with a 5.4 L V-8 and Auto trans and just about freaked at the difference in gas mileage, especially when towing. He went from getting 15+ mpg towing with his manual 4.6L to 10 mpg with the auto 5.4L.

ski_king
11-06-2008, 03:28 PM
I was quoted an 08 F150 extended cab, 4X4, 4.6L, STX, for around 18K. An 08 4X4 Ranger, 4.0L was 20K.

Funny, I just looked at your location.... My new 08 F-150 was brought over to my dealer from Waikem Ford near you.

thijs
11-06-2008, 03:41 PM
My ranger gets about 16MPG city and 20MPG HWY. And I can't tow the boat with the 150HP 3.0. This is why I want to swap engines or even trucks.......

captain planet
11-06-2008, 03:52 PM
My ranger gets about 16MPG city and 20MPG HWY. And I can't tow the boat with the 150HP 3.0. This is why I want to swap engines or even trucks.......

You'll wait a while for that 3.0L to wear out. They run forever.

tommcat
11-07-2008, 07:44 AM
the 4.6 is underpowered, especially if you're looking to work it at all. other than that though they have been fairly reliable without too many issues(for a ford)