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JohnnyB
09-06-2008, 12:55 AM
How much do you think it would cost to put a new motor (crate motor :rolleyes:) and tranny in this baby......how much engine could you shoe-horn in there?????


http://www.mastercraft.com/market/showproduct.php?product=2413&cat=7

ski_king
09-06-2008, 06:43 AM
I believe skidim sold off the last of the PCM 351's that would bolt right in.

By the time you bought the engine, exaust manifolds, new transmission, etc, you would have 6 to 8 thousand in it.

JimN
09-06-2008, 09:24 AM
"how much engine could you shoe-horn in there?????"

Remembering for a minute that it's not a speed boat, putting a big motor in it would change the balance of the boat, which would make it handle differently. Then, there's the issue of where the transmission would be in relation to the strut, so that would need to be dealt with.

Fond out if the motor mounts are in it. If they are, I would think that any 351 motor would bolt up to the hull. Once a transmission is found, maybe a prop shaft/coupler/prop and make up a wiring harness, throw a paint job on it and make the interior look nice- yup, hard to justify the cost. Cool project but you could find a complete boat for less.

JohnnyB
09-07-2008, 01:30 PM
Just creating some conversation and seeing what kinds of throughts/ingenuity people come up with......someday, I'll take something like that on, but I'm full up at the moment.

Good point about the cost of a rebuild...

JimN
09-07-2008, 02:55 PM
This kind of thing makes long winters seem shorter but if the project is done quickly and there's a lot of winter left, it can make it seem a lot longer.

03 35th Anniversary
09-07-2008, 07:30 PM
Your cost would be in the trans. The exht. in that boat (being carb) you could find something that would work. HP is cheep in that boat, you could have more than you want easily.

Jerseydave
09-07-2008, 08:56 PM
Hey MC dealers, that's a perfect boat to turn into a roadside sign on a big pole!

(It would also make a great salad bar!) :)

03 35th Anniversary
09-07-2008, 08:59 PM
MMMMMMMMM..........


Salad Bar............

erkoehler
09-07-2008, 09:01 PM
Sorry, the boat on a stick is WAY over used in our area.

03 35th Anniversary
09-07-2008, 09:03 PM
Sorry, the boat on a stick is WAY over used in our area.

Hmmmmm..........

I didn't see any boats on a stick when I was up there.........

I might of bought a boat if I did!!!!!!!!!! :D

erkoehler
09-07-2008, 09:04 PM
Malibu has one, Searay/supra/moomba has one, and there are a few more in Fox Lake area.

ski_king
09-07-2008, 10:06 PM
MMMMMMMMM..........


Salad Bar............

http://www.mastercraft.com/teamtalk/attachment.php?attachmentid=2407&d=1127602302

03 35th Anniversary
09-07-2008, 10:23 PM
http://www.mastercraft.com/teamtalk/attachment.php?attachmentid=2407&d=1127602302

Mmmmmmmmmm..........

Salad Bar with a TOWER!!!!!!!!!!!!! 8p

TMCNo1
09-08-2008, 12:26 AM
Mmmmmmmmmm..........

Salad Bar with a TOWER!!!!!!!!!!!!! 8p

But it has available as a salad dressing, Pennzoil Rotella 15W40 and Lance Captain's Crackers!:rolleyes::D

454Prostar190
09-08-2008, 11:00 AM
How much do you think it would cost to put a new motor (crate motor :rolleyes:) and tranny in this baby......how much engine could you shoe-horn in there?????


http://www.mastercraft.com/market/showproduct.php?product=2413&cat=7

Well now..... MasterCraft put a 425 hp/454 BBC in with a slot and a 15" propeller in my S and S in '82:D Comes out of the hole hard, pegs the speedos and with no mufflers.... sounds awesome! Big blocks are heavy though, and I am sure that you could find something comparable, these days, in a much smaller package!

Prostar Rich
09-08-2008, 01:42 PM
With some ingenuity and having the ability to do a lot of the work yourself that boat could be brought back from the dead. Depends how much of the labor you could do.

Prostar Rich

ski_king
09-08-2008, 01:50 PM
Unless you have a donor boat that has a good drive train, but bad hull, I think reviving this boat would cost way more than its value.

JimN
09-08-2008, 02:46 PM
If it has a great hull but needs freshening up, the interior is good and tools/facility and mechanical skills are available, shopping around for a motor, transmission, running gear and other parts shouldn't be a problem. Buying these from the highest priced source and paying full blast for labor makes it a no-win proposition.

Buying a decent used motor, tearing it down and having it built for this application is a good way to start. Speed shops are all over. Just about everyone knows someone who knows someone wit a lot of knowledge about this kind of thing. Google is your friend.

flipper
09-08-2008, 02:51 PM
There's a marine junk yard in my area that you can get an engine/tranny, and some other parts from. You may have something like that in your area. If so, that would cut the cost way down for you.

uawaterskier
09-08-2008, 02:57 PM
I dont see what the big fuss is. Its not hard to drop a motor and tranny in a boat. Its a heck of a lot easier than doing it in a car. I agree with whoever said the tranny is going to be the expensive part.

flipper
09-08-2008, 02:59 PM
I dont see what the big fuss is. Its not hard to drop a motor and tranny in a boat. Its a heck of a lot easier than doing it in a car. I agree with whoever said the tranny is going to be the expensive part.

It's not a big deal to do, it's the $$$$ part that sucks

JimN
09-08-2008, 06:06 PM
My view- just about anything can be restored, it's just a matter of findding ways to keep from breaking the bank. There's always something that was ordered and not picked up, something that needs repair or seemed to have been forgotten that can be bought at a discount. It's just a matter of finding these things.

Like these:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Marine-Transmission-Velvet-Drive-Borg-Warner-1-to-1_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ124104QQihZ019QQitemZ 290257963876QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2-BORG-WARNER-72C-1-5x1-VELVET-MARINE-TRANSMISSIONS_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1638Q2em1 18Q2el1247QQcategoryZ50442QQihZ013QQitemZ464598449 3QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWD1V

And a motor:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/_Boat-Parts-Accessories-Gear__351-W-marine-engine-FORD-motor-mercruiser-5-8L-No-Core_W0QQitemZ280265062134QQadnZBoatQ20PartsQ2cQ20 AccessoriesQ20Q26Q20GearQQadiZ2823QQcmdZViewItem?h ash=item280265062134&_trkparms=39%3A1|65%3A1|240%3A1318&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245

stevo137
09-08-2008, 07:51 PM
If the tining were good for me, I would seriously consider this S&S.
The 83' was a great looking year...

Think of the price vs a restoration, this boat is in great shape but has room for improvement if you want a project of sorts...

http://www.mastercraft.com/market/showproduct.php?product=2312&cat=5