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03 35th Anniversary
09-02-2008, 07:35 PM
This doesn't look like any 93 MasterCraft I have ever seen.




http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110285166457&ssPageName=ADME:X:EMTFW:US:12#ebayphotohosting

TMCNo1
09-02-2008, 07:40 PM
No, it's a Supra or a Ski Centurion with MasterCraft and Malibu graphics

rodltg2
09-02-2008, 07:47 PM
i dont know what that is. looks like a supra windshield, but i dont think its one. looks simalar toa ski brendella but i dont think its that either.. very weird. that underwater gear doenst give it away...

JohnE
09-02-2008, 07:51 PM
It must be, it says so on the side........:confused:


But it sure don't look like anything I've ever seen.............

03 35th Anniversary
09-02-2008, 08:06 PM
I guess this boat must be UNIQUE??????

justinglow
09-02-2008, 08:12 PM
I guess this boat must be UNIQUE??????

:D:D:D LMAO!!

coz
09-02-2008, 08:15 PM
Did anyone read the discription?

THIS BOAT WAS BUILT BY MASTERCRAFT BUT FOR SOME REASON SOLD THROUGH BIMINI,I WAS TOLD SO MASTERCRAFT COULD HAVE TWO BOATS IT THE COMPTITIONS FOR 1993...I'M THE SECOND OWNER....I HAVE THE TITLE IN HAND FOR THE BOAT

Stand by I'll get an answer :D

sethro
09-02-2008, 08:16 PM
It's a Bimini Skier. No truth to MasterCraft producing/selling it. There are two of those boats in my area, one of which belongs to one of my ski partners...quite a capable little boat actually.

JohnE
09-02-2008, 08:22 PM
Did anyone read the discription?



Stand by I'll get an answer :D

I read the description but had never heard of bimini.

TMCNo1
09-02-2008, 08:25 PM
The seller has BS running out his eyes, ears, nose, mouth and other places! Biggest BS line I've heard lately!:rolleyes:

FHMan1905
09-02-2008, 08:37 PM
it looks like an old gekko boat.....but it does look like the supra windshield

FHMan1905
09-02-2008, 08:38 PM
i just found some pics of 92 Supra i looked at buying back in the summer and they are identical boats just with different graphics.....

sethro
09-02-2008, 08:45 PM
A 92 Supra Comp Ts6M (assuming that's the model you looked at) bears little resemblence to a Bimini Skier. About the only thing the same (or very close to it) is the windshield. Oh, and they both have an engine in the middle of the boat. :D

92 190 PS
09-02-2008, 09:16 PM
I'm going to post a picture of the wake with my kids tubing when I go to sell my ps190 as well......

http://i20.ebayimg.com/02/i/001/09/a3/69f2_0.JPG (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110285166457&ssPageName=ADME:X:EMTFW:US:12#ebayphotohosting)

FHMan1905
09-02-2008, 09:17 PM
it wasn't a ts6m....i looked at one of those too.....but i found this "other" supra for real cheap and when i got there to look at it i found out why it was so cheap....and the supra comp was in great shape, but decided to stick with the mastercraft....i have know idea about anything to do with supra's

TMCNo1
09-02-2008, 09:51 PM
....i have know idea about anything to do with supra's


Apparently neither does this guy! Unlike you, this guy didn't do his homework on MasterCraft's and he bought someone's fake pos and now he's trying to unload it on some wanna be to get out from under it.

sethro
09-02-2008, 10:08 PM
I really don't understand the need for MasterCraft stickers on that boat. Although it's a relatively unknown name, it is a very nice boat for its intended purpose. I can't imagine anybody falling for the "it's a MasterCraft" sales pitch...at least I hope not. The 285 HP Indmar in that little boat is impressive, it doesn't have 310 HP as the owner states.

The Bimini Skier was built in California by either Ski Centurion or Ski Brendella, I don't remember which one, and I think only in 1991,92, and 93.

FHMan1905
09-02-2008, 10:11 PM
i have been looking around on the internet and i have found parts for up to a 97 Bimini Skier...it almost looks like a company used supra components; windshield, dash etc... to build a boat...the one i looked at was listed in the classifieds under supra but as "other"....and was in horrible shape...i emailed the guy on ebay and asked if the title actually said mastercraft on it since he said he has the title in hand....someone went to a great deal of work to try to pass it off as a MC...notice the mastercraft stickers on the trailer too....

Willski
09-02-2008, 11:24 PM
MC on the rubrail as well. Why would you do that. Why not just sell it as is?

tex
09-03-2008, 10:19 AM
Not so much!

Jorski
09-03-2008, 10:30 AM
Used MCs sell for more than Supras, Brendellas or Biminis (??)....this guy is scammer !!!!!!!!!

JohnE
09-03-2008, 10:35 AM
I'm guessing that a lot of people looking for a good used boat wouldn't realize that it is not a MC.

Nobody here, of course.;)

TMCNo1
09-03-2008, 10:45 AM
Used MCs sell for more than Supras, Brendellas or Biminis (??)....this guy is scammer !!!!!!!!!


Shamrock IV tells me he is considering buying a '88 PS190 and flipping it.
What would be the best for ShamrockIV to make the right money on it in selling it, turn it into a fake Ski Centurion or clean it up and sell it as what it is, a MasterCraft?:rolleyes:
Simple, it's a no brainer, MC's bring more money, till the unsuspecting DA walley who buys it finds out what he's really got and then tries to unload it too as a genuine MC again!

coz
09-03-2008, 10:54 AM
i emailed the guy on ebay and asked if the title actually said mastercraft on it since he said he has the title in hand....someone went to a great deal of work to try to pass it off as a MC...notice the mastercraft stickers on the trailer too....

I emailed him yesterday too and stil no reply.

flipper
09-03-2008, 11:08 AM
It might want to be a Mastercraft when it grows up

FHMan1905
09-03-2008, 01:19 PM
yeah i havent gotten a reply either the bids have jumped to 6100 wish there was a way to post a warning someone is getting ready to get ripped off

I emailed him yesterday too and stil no reply.

uawaterskier
09-03-2008, 01:31 PM
it must be a MC it says it on the side.

Itsme
09-03-2008, 01:57 PM
All you need is the serial number off of the boat to confirm what manufacturer the boat is -
but it would not tell of who actuall built the boat.
example - Gekko boats used to be built at the centurion factory.....

ShamrockIV
09-03-2008, 02:07 PM
Shamrock IV tells me he is considering buying a '88 PS190 and flipping it.
What would be the best for ShamrockIV to make the right money on it in selling it, turn it into a fake Ski Centurion or clean it up and sell it as what it is, a MasterCraft?:rolleyes:
Simple, it's a no brainer, MC's bring more money, till the unsuspecting DA walley who buys it finds out what he's really got and then tries to unload it too as a genuine MC again!


d@mn harold thanks for exposing my plan!!!!! now i guess i will have to tell my girls that they better study now that daddy won't have that money for college!!!!!

anybody looking for a 88 190????

shoot for ther right money you can have my 03 209!!!!!

Monte
09-03-2008, 02:26 PM
Darnit:mad:.. I am the HIGH bidder:rolleyes:

ShamrockIV
09-03-2008, 02:30 PM
Darnit:mad:.. I am the HIGH bidder:rolleyes:


no prob monte can u insure it as a MC???????

O2BESOHUGE
09-03-2008, 02:31 PM
Whoever Has An Ebay Account Needs To "ask The Seller A Question" (as Ebay Puts It) And Let Him Know Its Not A Mastercraft. I Sent Him A Message Yesterday And Told Him And He Said Thanks But He Was Going On What His Friend Told Him About The Boat.

Its Misrepresentation. Hopefully Someone Will Do Some Research Before Buying That Thing

YOU CAN PUT A DRESS ON A PIG - BUT ITS A STILL A PIG!! :)

TMCNo1
09-03-2008, 02:32 PM
Darnit:mad:.. I am the HIGH bidder:rolleyes:

P T Barnum was right, "There's a sucker born every minute" for someone to bid on it! JEEEEEZZZZZ!

ski_king
09-03-2008, 02:33 PM
I askled him for the HIN (hull identification number)

ShamrockIV
09-03-2008, 02:35 PM
YOU CAN PUT A DRESS ON A PIG - BUT ITS A STILL A PIG!! :)

do you know what you get if you polish a turd????



a shiny POS!!!

O2BESOHUGE
09-03-2008, 02:44 PM
Hes Probably Getting Tired Of All The Emails And Comments. Do You Think He Will Get You The Hull Id Number?

Monte
09-03-2008, 02:52 PM
no prob monte can u insure it as a MC???????

Of course I can..;)

FHMan1905
09-03-2008, 03:35 PM
i am going to notify ebay that this is not being described to the fullest i have been ripped off before and dont want it to happen to anyone else

jeff shelton
09-03-2008, 03:44 PM
I just reported it. I e-mailed this to 03 35th yesterday evening to see what he thought and he posted it here to get everyone's opinion. I reported it as misleading title etc. Not a mastercraft and seller has been asked to provide proof as to being Mastercraft with no response.

Monte
09-03-2008, 03:50 PM
P T Barnum was right, "There's a sucker born every minute" for someone to bid on it! JEEEEEZZZZZ!

What can I say? Looks very rare;):D

TMCNo1
09-03-2008, 03:57 PM
What can I say? Looks very rare;):D

I saw a NC state shaped piece of bacon that was on E-bay for sale for $49.95 on TV the other night, but I couldn't tell if it was a red or blue state, but I ain't buyin' it, just cause someone said it was from the east end of a west bound hog!:rolleyes::D

FHMan1905
09-03-2008, 03:59 PM
I just reported it. I e-mailed this to 03 35th yesterday evening to see what he thought and he posted it here to get everyone's opinion. I reported it as misleading title etc. Not a mastercraft and seller has been asked to provide proof as to being Mastercraft with no response.

good deal hate to see someone to get ripped off i have had stuff removed for the same reason until i emailed proof to ebay that it is what i said it was they will remove it and require him to email proff

rodltg2
09-03-2008, 04:38 PM
can't belive it up to $6100 !! someone is getting a great deal....not.

pkskier
09-03-2008, 05:47 PM
Find this in the January/February 1995 issue of the Water Skier. Look at the lower left picture.

Rockman
09-03-2008, 05:50 PM
HIN is.........fi ng 4018c393

ski_king
09-03-2008, 05:55 PM
HIN is.........fi ng 4018c393

I just got the same response.

FI, Fineline Industries (Centurion)?

88 PS190
09-03-2008, 06:10 PM
Makes me wonder if this guy got taken up the rear by the person who sold it to him.

Ya ya sure its a mastercraft.

Additionally what's this fantastic finishes marine .com bullocks? FFI Transmissions 877-369-6693? 33?-273-8291? Can anyone read that better?

I'd love to give them a call and see about this claim. 30% more HP at the prop? Dyno'd. Out of a 1:1 velvet drive rebuild....
There is a local guy, velvet drive specialist, he claims that the main problem is that due to wear in the machining equipment certain surfaces have a taper they shouldn't a slight one. I don't think its a way to gain back 30%.

88 PS190
09-03-2008, 06:12 PM
anyone live near anderson IN? Offer to take a look at it... I'd love close up pictures of that sucker.

FFI Transmission Medina OH 330-273-8291

coz
09-03-2008, 06:17 PM
I emailed him yesterday too and stil no reply.

Still no reply, I did mention I was a MC owner and that the boat didn't look like a 190 so could you give me a better discription than your ebay one. I wonder if that has to do with no reply?

liledgy
09-03-2008, 06:32 PM
Looks like a Bimini to me.Fineline industries also built them. I think they also built Ski Brendellas. One of my good friends bought a Bimini skier in 95 against all of his friends wishes. He grew up with ski boats, one brother had a MC then bought a American skier . His other brother had a Brendella. Anyway, Everyone told him it wouldn't last etc. . Because of all the warnings or just being paranoid he took great care of the boat. Its got right around 950 hours of cours sking and the passenger seat bottom is the only piece he's replaced ( he doesn't have 3 younger kids like me) . The driver seat bottom is now showing some wear. Last year he found one slightly loose lag going into stringer for motor mount, thats it. It does have some short comings, pain ITA battery access, cheap vent covers, small gas tank. AS far as driving its the best handling boat I've ever driven (I've had 3 mastercrafts and 1 American skier and driven well over 100 more tournament boats). It has an articulating fin (the front one) that turns whith the steering wheel. I believe a Bimini patent. When pulling without a spotter he has a masonary block to keep the boat level. It also skis as good or better than 90% of the boats I've been in and I've been in alot. Don't get me wrong I'm a MC guy to the end, this boat is just a bare bones ski machine for smooth water only, something like my SS's with a little less quality on the fit an finish.

88 PS190
09-03-2008, 06:36 PM
this boat is just a bare bones ski machine for smooth water only, something like my SS's with a little less quality on the fit an finish.


I've been in some small Moomba's and such, no question the boats can ski. They wear out quicker, and seem to have a kings share of issues come up, but they do work well.

NADA doesn't have a listing for a 93 Bimini 19' boat. Is this due to low numbers or just because there was not one?

liledgy
09-03-2008, 06:40 PM
Just remembered, he did lose a prop when his shaft cracked for no apparant reason about six years ago. and when looking at the gauges on the one for sale I remembered that my buddies clock still works( something he conviently bringsup once a year when were in the boat).

liledgy
09-03-2008, 06:44 PM
I believe they made less than 50 boats in 95, for some reason 37 sticks out in my mind.

03 35th Anniversary
09-03-2008, 09:54 PM
I kinda feel bad for the guy, he actually believed it was an MC.

88 PS190
09-04-2008, 01:40 AM
poor guy, maybe he'll come over and figure out who all got his listing pulled?

FHMan1905
09-04-2008, 10:42 AM
Still no reply, I did mention I was a MC owner and that the boat didn't look like a 190 so could you give me a better discription than your ebay one. I wonder if that has to do with no reply?

yeah i mentioned that i was a MC owner still nothing doubt i will hear anything if this guy believed that was a MC then i have a one of a kind Bentley 2500HD truck that as sold through chevrolet that i will sell him haha

03 35th Anniversary
09-04-2008, 06:09 PM
Just think if he would have joined and posted it up in the prostar thread.

FHMan1905
09-04-2008, 08:05 PM
Just think if he would have joined and posted it up in the prostar thread.

he wouldn't have stayed long....the wolves would have been feeding pretty quick on that...haha

Hammer
09-04-2008, 10:18 PM
It appears that it has been removed.

Hammer
09-04-2008, 10:24 PM
And its been relisted. Never said directly this time its a MC, just says "some say it was made by" and list in the MC section.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Boats_Power-Motorboats__COMPETITION-SKI-WAKEBOARD-BOAT-MASTERCRAFT-NO-RESERVE_W0QQitemZ110286566032QQddnZBoatsQQadnZPowe rQ20Q26Q20MotorboatsQQddiZ2831QQadiZ2795QQcmdZView Item?hash=item110286566032&_trkparms=72%3A727%7C39%3A1%7C65%3A12%7C240%3A1318&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245

ski_king
09-04-2008, 10:56 PM
If he manages to sell that "MasterCraft", I am going to try to sell my Corvette.