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sledhead800
08-10-2004, 11:41 PM
i was told to use prell shampoo, its water based and would not hurt the bindings. the slime is expensive and tough to come by on the weekends. any suggestions please let me know- jim

Bert
08-11-2004, 12:01 AM
I like the moose juice. I was down at Moose Country waterski camp and Fred sold me a big jug of it for twenty bucks. :D You can get it in 1 liter spray bottles. That should last a season

http://www.mooseweb.com/mooseweb/welcome2.html

jimmer2880
08-11-2004, 05:57 AM
I use dilooted (50/50) dollar-store shampoo and water in a spray bottle. Also - I use the dollar-store dishwashing liquid dilooted 30(soap)/70 (water) in a spray bottle. I did the dishwashing soap for ~20 years & never had a binding give out or complain yet.

Farmer Ted
08-11-2004, 07:38 AM
I've been using aloe vera gel, just need to find a 55 gallon drum of the stuff at SAMS Club......

John B
08-11-2004, 07:50 AM
I use Planet biodegradable dish soap

MarkP
08-11-2004, 08:25 AM
Ivory Liquid for daddy sweet water

jake
08-11-2004, 08:28 AM
Women's shave gel, target brand...$1. Not as slippery as shampoo or dish soap. It dissipates pretty much instantly when you get in the water.

bcampbe7
08-11-2004, 08:57 AM
I'm with MarkP, Ivory Liquid dishsoap.

Sledneck
08-11-2004, 09:04 AM
I want to make sure my kids, and my kids, kids for that matter enjoy the lake in the same conidition I do. Most if not all of the specific binding lubes are more enviromentally friendly than any soap, shave cream, or shampoo... I use "Newt Juice", it's a little bit more $$ than your average house hold substitues but, a MC is little bit more than your average boat too.. ;)

John B
08-11-2004, 09:07 AM
biodegradable dish soap

BriEOD
08-11-2004, 09:11 AM
Ditto what Johhny B said...

east tx skier
08-11-2004, 10:28 AM
A few weeks ago, upon reading countless posts about it on another ski site, I started using a non-toxic wire pulling lubricant. Bought a huge bottle at home depot for $6. I mix it with water, and it only takes a drop or two to get me into the boots. Not nearly as much required as soap, and what's there disappears as soon as I jump in. From what I understand, I don't think it harms your boots or the lake. If someone knows otherwise, let me know as I'd like to conserve the quality of my local water.

betsy&david Harrison
08-11-2004, 01:38 PM
Can't and won't use soap on our lake. Found Overton's Boot Slim to work the best. I don't us much and it washes out quick once in the water. Never had a problem coming out of my bindings with it. Not sure about the wire lube. It is definetly much cheaper than what I'm using though. B

NatesGr8
08-11-2004, 01:44 PM
I don't use any type of lube, just wet the feet and the bindings and i'm all set :) Not to mention i keep the feet shaved :eek3:

betsy&david Harrison
08-11-2004, 01:57 PM
It would take me hours to get into my bindings without slime. I used to help out in a college training room taping ankles...good thing you shave first.

Jorski
08-11-2004, 02:15 PM
Shaving cream....almost as slippery as soap to ease entry but it dissipates much more quickly once you get into the water. (Andy Mapple uses Barbisol)

Leroy
08-11-2004, 05:33 PM
I use biodegradable liquid soap mixed 50/50 with water and in spray bottle. I found going to the spray bottle made it easier to use and used much less slime. Even marked it slime :eek: trademark infringement again.

bcampbe7
08-11-2004, 05:49 PM
Where would one find biodegradable soap? Is there a particular brand?

lakes Rick
08-11-2004, 06:56 PM
Women's shave gel, target brand...$1. Not as slippery as shampoo or dish soap. It dissipates pretty much instantly when you get in the water.

Jake, have you been using it for other things too???

John B
08-11-2004, 07:11 PM
The biodegradable soap that I use is "Planet" I get it at Vons supermarket :D

stevo137
08-11-2004, 08:23 PM
editing....

Leroy
08-11-2004, 09:17 PM
I must admit I took mine from a primitive condo on Center Hill Lake, it was some commercial green stuff, really didn't clean very well, but is slippery. I took a bottle to try and then forgot it on the boat :rolleyes:

jake
08-12-2004, 08:10 AM
Jake, have you been using it for other things too???

Rick: not as far as you know! :eek:

Jorski
08-12-2004, 10:02 AM
I haven't tried it, but it is definitely the best name for a binding lubricant product:

Toe Jam

http://www.toejam.org/main_frame.html

NSXBill
08-12-2004, 03:51 PM
We've always used dish soap. Check out the crazy "Binding Blaster" my boat came with. Way more complicated than a simple bottle. At least I always know where to find it!

Bert
08-12-2004, 04:06 PM
that's really cool. never have to dig around in the gunnels to find the bottle empty cause the lid came off :(

DanC
08-12-2004, 04:22 PM
NSXBill, how do you like that binding blaster? Do you find it irritating to have to open the rear hatch to get at it or is that no biggie?

NSXBill
08-12-2004, 04:25 PM
Like I said, its overly complicated. No, I don't like having to open the locker to get to it. Mostly a pain.

CTPJ
08-12-2004, 04:29 PM
OK, now for the next logical question. Anyone know where you can find that setup and how much it costs? Looks pretty simple, I may be able to fabricate something. NSXBill, what are the specs on that pump?

Todd

NSXBill
08-12-2004, 04:35 PM
How much will you give? :)

I guess its available from MC

betsy&david Harrison
08-12-2004, 07:33 PM
I know this is a family site but here's a funny on this topic..new skier at out lake last weekend asked, "Is that KY in the bottle?"

Tgchrist
08-12-2004, 09:12 PM
We use 50/50 mix of murphy's oil soap. Slippery and biodegradeable.

MarkP
08-12-2004, 09:46 PM
I know this is a family site but here's a funny on this topic..new skier at out lake last weekend asked, "Is that KY in the bottle?"
Um, Was it:eek: !!

sledhead800
08-12-2004, 10:59 PM
well, i bought prell shampoo.........the local guys here say it is water based and bio friendly. it was 1.99 for 16 oz........cant go wrong if it works. i will post again after the weekend. thanks- jim

6balls
08-12-2004, 11:34 PM
Astroglide! :banana:

Farmer Ted
08-12-2004, 11:53 PM
Hans,

Do we need to start calling you Mr Hand?

6balls
08-13-2004, 01:45 PM
:headbang: Rosie and her five sisters baby!

Actually, KY or Astroglide are excellent for Dry suit seals. No Joke.

east tx skier
08-18-2004, 10:52 AM
CTPJ, before you drop the cash for the MC setup (which is cool), you might give the $15 soap buddy a try. It just suctions onto the transom. Ours has never come off (knock on wood) even when we forget and trailer home with it still attached.

My father and law got one the cheap way (found it floating in a lake). Due to the circumstances of its discovery, he doesn't attach his to the back of the boat.

lakes Rick
08-18-2004, 03:04 PM
:headbang: Rosie and her five sisters baby!

Actually, KY or Astroglide are excellent for Dry suit seals. No Joke.

And if its cold out the KY with the "warming" sensation..

MarkP
08-18-2004, 03:06 PM
Rick,


Is that what you use??

tall_ andy
08-18-2004, 03:23 PM
Ummm Warming sensation when its cold out!!! I hope we're talking about warming feet in the bindings :woohoo:

lakes Rick
08-18-2004, 06:25 PM
No I saw the ad on TV and thought it was pretty funny.. I tried the website for my "free sample" and it said I had to call in for it..NO WAY, the internet is much more impersonal.......

lakes Rick
08-18-2004, 06:30 PM
Not knowing what Astroglide is and hoping to not embarass myself by asking, I typed in a search for it... I must have filters as it came up as sexually explicit and would I like to proceed..

SOOO would anyone like to tell me what Astroglide is?????

Leroy
08-18-2004, 08:06 PM
Rick;

Looks like fancy KY, never tried it myself, will tell you about it in 4-6 weeks.......

http://www.astroglide.com/ Free samples via the internet, they probably don't even realize it works great for ski bindings....would be funny if they had 3000 hits like the bathing suit beauty!

BriEOD
08-19-2004, 07:28 AM
Astroglide, huh. Would have never thought of that one...

east tx skier
08-19-2004, 10:41 AM
Aren't "personal lubricants" a lot more expensive than some of the other stuff already mentioned on the thread?

DanC
08-19-2004, 11:14 AM
Doug, much more expensive. Maybe we should be thinking the other way round. Wonder how the non-toxic wire pulling lube would work? :eek:

east tx skier
08-19-2004, 12:21 PM
Wonder not! That stuff is great. Cut 50/50 with water, it only takes a few drops to get my foot into the Animals. Big bottle was only $6 and should last me a season or two by my estimate (assuming others aren't dumping the stuff in their boots). It doesn't take a lot.

DanC
08-19-2004, 12:31 PM
When I said think the other way around I meant I wonder how the non toxic wire pulling lube would work as a personal lubricant?

MarkP
08-19-2004, 12:36 PM
Danc

:eek: I wont even throw a guess on that one..

BriEOD
08-19-2004, 02:21 PM
DanC,

Bro you are scaring me... :eek: Why don't you do a little experiment with Rosie and her friends and collect some empirical data. :noface:

east tx skier
08-19-2004, 02:44 PM
Here was my test (no not that). I put a little on my fingers, ran some tap water on my hand, and rubbed my fingers together. They slid around without much friction. I ran a little more water on there and the stuff was gone. I think that's the difference. It dissipates quickly. The other stuff seems to be made to stick around for a while.

budman
08-19-2004, 11:46 PM
Ivory liquid for me !

MarkP
08-20-2004, 09:30 AM
I may look for the wire pulling lubricant on my next trip to the hardware store. Sounds like it may be worth a try. Hell if I donít like it I can go pull some wires. The spray bottle sounds worth a shot too..

east tx skier
08-20-2004, 10:27 AM
That stuff would work well in a spray bottle. The stuff I'd always heard about was green, but I found some clear stuff.

BriEOD
08-20-2004, 12:58 PM
Mark,

Out of curisosity, do you go to a Mom & Pop hardware store or like and Ace or Home Depot?

MarkP
08-20-2004, 01:01 PM
Home Depot..

Not many, (good), little hardware stores around anymore.

BriEOD
08-20-2004, 01:18 PM
I'm a Home Depot man myself. Although I find most folks prefer Lowes, not me.

Hodge Podge
08-20-2004, 02:17 PM
KY :rolleyes: :) :dance:

BriEOD
08-20-2004, 02:18 PM
HP, Really?

NeilM
08-22-2004, 11:10 PM
Local watersports dealer charges $14.95 for a 32 oz bottle of binding lubricant, then $5.00 for refills. If you buy anything (wakeboard, bindings, waterski, or a Tige) from them, refills are free.

Doug - great idea on the wire pulling lubricant.. may sound R-rated, but it should work.

DanC
08-23-2004, 10:55 AM
I checked out the wire pulling lube at OSH. Big ol' quart bottle for $4. Kinda gooey like Elmer's white glue so it would need to be diluted. But it says in the fine print that it is somewhat resistant to water? Is that just the brand I was looking at? Anybody have any experience on how well it dissipates in the water?

east tx skier
08-23-2004, 11:14 AM
The wire pulling lube I bought at home depot is called Clear Glide. It is clear, and has the consistency of aloe vera gel more than Elmers glue (I realize there's the green stuff that's a bit thicker). I cut it 50/50 with water, and a few drops gets me in. It dissipates much more quickly than soap IMO.

DanC
08-23-2004, 11:17 AM
thanks Doug, I'll check Home Depot at lunch today :dance:

rfling
08-31-2004, 05:09 PM
I agree with Jake, I have tried dish soap and shampoo. The cheap women's shaving gel/cream dissapates quickly, is less harsh than dish soap and shampoo, its cheap, and one can will last forever.