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FHMan1905
07-15-2008, 10:38 PM
I have a lawn care company on the side and it isn't worth it anymore with fuel costs for me to be hauling around all this stuff everyday and driving a 3/4 ton truck getting 9 mpg... This winter I am thinking about finding a new truck/suv...i really like the new FJ's but was wanting some opinions...i know they probably won't tow the best but i only have to tow my boat about 15 miles and maybe go to a different lake about once or twice a year....

Let me know what you think

by the way i have never had a "stock" vehicle....this would be similiar to what i would do

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D3skier
07-15-2008, 11:07 PM
that would be a little questionable in my book due to the shorter wheel base and a lift kit on the longer hauls but that's just my .02 cents worth...

FHMan1905
07-15-2008, 11:09 PM
yeah that is a 6" lift with 35's...i was thinking a 3" leveling kit with 33's....

kiawfof
07-15-2008, 11:09 PM
Well, just my thought/observation, but you mention fuel mileage, then reference putting oversized tires and a possible lift kit on a vehicle that most likely doesn't get better than 18 or 19 stock if even that on the highway. It would only get worse after.

Is your truck paid for? If so, you can not make the numbers work to justify a new payment for only marginal gains in mpg's.

I have a Dodge MegaCab with the Cummins Turbo diesel, and I probably get 15ish pulling resonable (sub 70 mph) and about 20 empty on the highway. Only 2 wheel drive, and bone stock. I have heard, but not experienced that the Hemi with mdf can get close to those numbers and I am sure that the Chevys would also be that good. I don't think I could go back to just an SUV after the truck. Good luck in your search...and the FJ does look cool modded.

FHMan1905
07-15-2008, 11:10 PM
they get like 16 and 19...but i would probably buy a manual to help with the towing....but i would have to re teach my wife how to back down the ramp...i can see it now...under the marina...maybe an auto would be best...haha

FHMan1905
07-15-2008, 11:12 PM
i had an 03 cummins...highly modified pushing 800hp and was getting 36 mpg loaded...then it went boom one day so i got rid of it....(went boom due to dealer's service department and they wouldn't do anything about it)...oh well...my truck isn't paid for and i am only getting 9 empty...the thing sucks it down....i wouldn't go that extreme with the lift...only level it up with a 3" kit and put 33's not 35's

FHMan1905
07-15-2008, 11:19 PM
this one is only 45 minutes from me and cheap...if it was winter and i was done mowing for the season i would go buy it this weekend...

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thwack
07-15-2008, 11:21 PM
I'd be a bit skiddish of the FJ w/any lift. I have an ancient FJ and an ancient CJ Jeep that I tow my 79 S&S w/occasionally and I don't recomment it. The new FJs are of course vastly improved, but I agree that the short wheel base and lift creates a red flag. If I hit a pot-hole, run off the edge of the road, or just take a hard curve w/either the FJ or CJ, it gets a bit fishy. I'm personally a Chevy man and my Duramax w/Supertec Flashpack pulled great at about 17.5 MPG towing and 22 empty. Just my thoughts for what they're worth.

FHMan1905
07-15-2008, 11:31 PM
yeah i am a diesel man but that 4.80 a gallon price around here stops that real quick.....i haven't yet decided like i said it will be winter before i do anything...

thwack
07-15-2008, 11:38 PM
Agreed, but gas is rising and diesel is dropping right now. Also, my 1500 gets 15 MPG empty at $4.09/G and my Duramax got 22 MPG empty at $4.79/G. Even with the price difference, it's still cheaper to drive a diesel (20% cost savings even w/the higher $/G).

FHMan1905
07-15-2008, 11:46 PM
yeah i know....they are "giving" away diesels around here....i just have to "shop"...but i like this kind of shopping....and the top Diesel Tuner, TS Performance is here in Bowling Green and I am real good friends with them they built my cummins i had so i could probably squeeze 25 or 28 out of a duramax with some tuning....

TRBenj
07-16-2008, 10:13 AM
The FJ is based off the 4Runner, and is closely related to the Tacoma, both of which tow great. The FJ would be more than adequate for your little S&S, especially with the limited miles you tow. I have a '07 4Runner and it tows my 4000 lb boat + trailer very nicely. I have the V8 and it gets close to 20mpg on the highway (not towing). Highly recommended.

FHMan1905
07-16-2008, 11:58 AM
thanks TR i love the retro styling of them and with a 3" lift and 33's they look even better

Thrall
07-16-2008, 02:45 PM
i had an 03 cummins...highly modified pushing 800hp and was getting 36 mpg loaded...then it went boom one day so i got rid of it....(went boom due to dealer's service department and they wouldn't do anything about it)...oh well...my truck isn't paid for and i am only getting 9 empty...the thing sucks it down....i wouldn't go that extreme with the lift...only level it up with a 3" kit and put 33's not 35's

I'm gonna throw up the BS flag on 36mpg out of a Ram diesel!
Soooo if fuel mileage is killing yu in your 3/4 ton, 9mpg, truck (I'm assuming it's a gasser), why don't you get one of those 36 mpg Dodge Rams? That's double the mileage you'll get with the FJ.

FHMan1905
07-16-2008, 02:52 PM
if you dont believe me on the 36 mpg call TS Performance and ask for chris sanders he helped build the truck and i had well over 10 grand in motor mods to get to that point i was single with no bills now married with all kinds of bills haha no one could figure out exactly why or how it was getting that but it was and trust me i wish i still had that truck but it has been recycled by now the dealership put a faulty fuel filter on it and it burnt the pump cracked two injectors and blew the head into the hood and cracked the block but they said it wasnt their fault but oh well

FHMan1905
07-16-2008, 02:58 PM
TS Performance 270 746 9999 ask for chris sanders

FHMan1905
07-16-2008, 02:59 PM
tell him Lance told you to call and ask him about my 03 common rail

Monte
07-16-2008, 03:20 PM
I have heard the FJ interior is really small, and the fuel mileage doesn't come close to matching the size of the vehicle.

FHMan1905
07-16-2008, 03:28 PM
yeah the fuel mileage isnt as great as you would think but when comparing to 9 mpg it is great the guy who did our wedding/engagement pictures had one and it was suprisingly roomy and pretty peppy has a V6

Monte
07-16-2008, 03:37 PM
yeah the fuel mileage isnt as great as you would think but when comparing to 9 mpg it is great the guy who did our wedding/engagement pictures had one and it was suprisingly roomy and pretty peppy has a V6

Just all in what I've heard. Just about anything is better than 9mpg:cool:

FHMan1905
07-16-2008, 03:45 PM
yeah tell me about it just wanting something different and i love the looks of the FJ no need for a 3/4 ton gasser or diesel once mowing season is over

Carbon Dreams
07-19-2008, 11:52 AM
We tow with the FJ in stock form. Definitely not a long haul tow rig. We use it for short tows and maneuvering and it has plenty of power. The only drawback to the rig is backing into a left turn garage. There is about 10 degrees that you simply cannot see due to mirror/blindspot shortcomings. You will need to install a 7pin trailer wiring plug. Not too bad, I did mine in 1 hour.

FHMan1905
07-19-2008, 12:09 PM
yeah i am still thinking about it....i can back straight into my garage off the street....i have been doing some figuring and comparing my current truck to what i know about a duramax or a cummins...on buying a duramax i could save about 70 - 150 bucks a month and be able to continue mowing on the side (nice extra cash).... but if i don't mow again i will probably go with the FJ....and my trailer doesn't have brakes so i just need the flat 4 pin.....

Carbon Dreams
07-19-2008, 07:20 PM
With your boat I don't see a problem at all.

FHMan1905
07-19-2008, 10:17 PM
yeah ... i am thinking about it .... i have a tendency to change my mind quite often...

fskof
07-20-2008, 10:15 AM
Doesnt the FJ require Premium fuel?

FHMan1905
07-20-2008, 12:13 PM
haha...even if it does it will still be cheaper than what i have now running regular...that is why i still haven't ruled out a diesel....i did some figuring and can save about $100 a month at least if i switch to a diesel just for the better fuel milage....i am getting between 9 and 11 in my truck and putting about $180 a week in it

ShamrockIV
07-20-2008, 12:32 PM
9 mpg???? bro what r u driving??

FHMan1905
07-20-2008, 04:00 PM
2003 Chevy 6.0L 2500 4x4...pulling an 18ft trailer daily with two scag 61" mowers and trimmers and blowers the whole package....and i don't run empty enough for the milage to ever build back up....but may not be mowing next year that is why i am looking at the FJ.....but if do keep mowing i am going to buy another diesel...just got some decisions to make this winter....

TMCNo1
07-20-2008, 04:30 PM
2003 Chevy 6.0L 2500 4x4...pulling an 18ft trailer daily with two scag 61" mowers and trimmers and blowers the whole package....and i don't run empty enough for the milage to ever build back up....but may not be mowing next year that is why i am looking at the FJ.....but if do keep mowing i am going to buy another diesel...just got some decisions to make this winter....

Around here, everyone with diesels are trading them in for gasoline vehicles or selling them ASAP to prevent having to pay $4.69 gal. diesel instead of $3.88 for UL regular and are actually coming out way ahead either empty or towing.

FHMan1905
07-20-2008, 05:02 PM
this is the first gas truck i have had and i have been doing some figuring based on some buddies diesels who never unhook from a trailer and based on my figures i can save at least $100 a month...they are "giving" away diesels here....with lifetime service agreements and all kinds of stuff...i am thinking of a duramax and they average about 18 which is double what i am getting now....

FHMan1905
07-20-2008, 05:03 PM
but if i don't mow next year i am getting an FJ ... but it is hard to stop getting $1200 extra cash a month for 3 days a week worth of work in the afternoons

FHMan1905
08-10-2008, 10:29 PM
i am going to get a FJ in a couple weeks to drive for a few days but i am pretty sure i am gonna get one and keep mowing...haha...found a guy to trade me his small trailer for my big trailer plus he is gonna give me a thousand cash...haha...so the best of both worlds....i hope

Skipper
08-11-2008, 08:38 AM
Around here, everyone with diesels are trading them in for gasoline vehicles or selling them ASAP to prevent having to pay $4.69 gal. diesel instead of $3.88 for UL regular and are actually coming out way ahead either empty or towing.

I use the Bullydog programmer on my '05 Duramax diesel. I got 20 mpg towing my Prostar across the country from KY to AZ. I average 18 mpg in town towing back and forth to the lake up and down large hills. I have gotten as high as 30 mph at 60 mpg on the highway without a load.

I know diesel costs more than gasoline, but compared to the 11 mpg I was getting with my gasoline powered pickup, I think the diesel is a good decision.

fletch_n_me
08-13-2008, 06:33 PM
Anyone every tow with a Sequoia? I sold my Grand Cherokee which towed my PS 205 well and now I am faced with towing in my wife's 2wd Sequoia (V8) and am worried about not having the 4wd option on a boat ramp. Anyone? Anyone? Something D-O-O economics?

Tom023
08-13-2008, 07:41 PM
I've towed with a Sequoia since they were introduced and never once felt the need to have 4wd at the ramp. The old body style tows fine, just squats a little in the rear. The new Sequoia is an awesome towing machine.