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shepherd
04-27-2008, 06:27 AM
My boat has no cleats and no handrails except up in the bow. What the heck can I use for fenders if I don't have anything to tie them to? Any ideas?

shepherd
04-27-2008, 06:30 AM
Has anybody used these? http://www.boatersworld.com/product/366971109.htm
I'm not sure I can trust the suction cups to hold them overnight.

shepherd
04-27-2008, 06:31 AM
These might work if I can find something inside the boat to tie them to.
http://www.boatersworld.com/product/366982411msk.htm

ShamrockIV
04-27-2008, 06:38 AM
those suction cups work good!!!! they will work for u!!

JohnnyB
04-27-2008, 07:32 AM
Has anybody used these? http://www.boatersworld.com/product/366971109.htm
I'm not sure I can trust the suction cups to hold them overnight.

I'd be nervous about overnight. However, I use them when going through locks and when mooring at restaurants.

However, when I moore my boat at the lake, it never touches the dock. It's always on a mooring buoy. Also, I've installed bumpers on my bro inlaws dock to bump against for loading/unloading.

TMCNo1
04-27-2008, 07:50 AM
Shep, I've already got a hammer packed and I'll throw in some nails! We'll fix a couple places on your boat to hang you some fenders!

bxroads
04-27-2008, 08:16 AM
Reviews on suction cups (http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductReviewView?storeId=10001&langId=-1&catalogId=10001&catentryId=32549&storeNum=&subdeptNum=&classNum=)

Has anybody used these? http://www.boatersworld.com/product/366971109.htm
I'm not sure I can trust the suction cups to hold them overnight.

bbymgr
04-27-2008, 08:52 AM
My boat has no cleats and no handrails except up in the bow. What the heck can I use for fenders if I don't have anything to tie them to? Any ideas?


My X1 didn't come with any cleats either, but I had my dealer install 2 sets of the pop up cleats. It cost about $300 with installation. They look great too.


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shepherd
04-27-2008, 08:56 AM
Shep, I've alread got a hammer packed and I'll throw in some nails! We'll fix a couple places on your boat to hang you some fenders!

Harold, I know you better than that. If we were rafted up together at CSM and I started driving nails into my gunwale, you'd probably start crying! ;)

edit: ... or smack me upside the head, more likely.

Chas
04-27-2008, 09:19 AM
Item 31991 from Overton's - Only the little circle stays - the ring part goes with the fender.

http://www.overtons.com/assets/images/products/medium/31991_M1.jpg

If you need the fenders badly enough, a small attachment point like this might be worth looking at. I have put these on other boats and they work well. I have mounted them under gunwales or in lockers too.

Doug G
04-27-2008, 09:56 AM
These might work if I can find something inside the boat to tie them to.
http://www.boatersworld.com/product/366982411msk.htm

In addition to the normal fender on the cleat I have a few of these with the suction cups. The suction cups hold good if on a flat piece of gel but anywhere that is not flat they don't hold so good.

russlars
04-28-2008, 09:46 AM
I had my dealer install 2 sets of the pop up cleats. It cost about $300 with installation. They look great too.


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I had my dealer install 4 of these on my boat also. It was not cheap, but they look great and if you are going to tie it up for long periods of time like I do, it is a necessity. I would hate to trust anything short of this unless it was for very short periods of time. 2 were installed near the rear of the boat and the other 2 are at the widest part of the boat. This arrangement, along with the bow hook will allow me to tie up to most anything and be confident that the boat is secured.:twocents:

brucemac
04-28-2008, 10:13 AM
$300 is a deal. i was told it would be somewhere around $600

defender1009
04-28-2008, 10:17 AM
Every time I have used the suction cups in choppy water (when you really need them), they have always fallen off. They just aren't that great IMHO.

TMCNo1
04-28-2008, 10:56 AM
Shep, I heard Skidog was bringing a nail gun now that he has 2 batteries!

russlars
04-28-2008, 12:15 PM
$300 is a deal. i was told it would be somewhere around $600
I don't recall exactly how much it was to install my pop-up cleats because I had other things done at the same time, but $600 may be closer to what I paid. It would be best to just call your dealer and ask how much for the install. If I remember correctly, the cleats themselves were about $50 - $75 each and the install requires them to cut out some pretty good size chunks of fiberglass. Whatever I paid though it was well worth it for how much they get used on my boat!

brucemac
04-28-2008, 12:19 PM
yeah, i'll probably limp along this season and get it done next winter. yesterday, i put a not in my fender line and secured it by placing the line in my rear hatch just to launch. worked okay, but obviously not ideal for securing.

bxroads
04-29-2008, 02:25 PM
I've been pondering the same thing for the front of my boat (I've rails in the back) and I've ordered the products below. I'll see if I like the lock or the eye better. If I go with the eye I'll loop 1/4" line through the eye and tie it off with the quick knot. Whichever I go with it will be mounted on the windshield frame. I'm leaning towards the eye and quick knot because I've already an eye in the windshield frame for the bimini and I don't even notice it.


http://www.overtons.com/assets/images/products/large/34362_L1.jpg

http://images.westmarine.com/full/301377.jpg

http://images.westmarine.com/large/5400635.jpg

bbymgr
04-29-2008, 04:58 PM
$300 is a deal. i was told it would be somewhere around $600

I went back and checked my receipt because I had some other things done as well. The Cleats were $53 each and the Labor was $130 for a total of $342. Sorry I was a little off, but I still think they are worth it.

WTRSK1R
04-29-2008, 05:08 PM
I used the suction cups on my last boat, and most of the time the one I stuck to the windshield held well. The one I stuck near the stern to the fiberglass would hold if the boat was not rocking too much, but would pop right off if the water was choppy. Thankfully my current boat has the pop up cleats.

Steve

Bruce
04-29-2008, 05:22 PM
Why would a quality boat like MC not come with cleats?( I know money! )Thank goodness my 1999 230VRS came with nice looking pop up cleats.

brucemac
04-29-2008, 05:26 PM
yeah, i know it seems a little silly, and someone can correct me if i'm wrong, but from what i was told it was pretty common for them to be ordered without them, especially on the smaller boats until the early 2000's.

it's funny, i called my dealer and they want $120 per cleat, but when i go online to mymc they're less than $50 a piece. i need to see if my mechanic can do these. or more importantly if he's done them before. i hear it's not a super easy install.

i wish i didn't need them, or that i could find a way to live without them, but we tie up quite a bit, to ther boats, houseboat, etc. they'd be nice.

chudson
04-29-2008, 05:38 PM
Don't know if it's been mentioned but I have two fenders like these and tie them together with about six feet of old ski rope and lay it across the boat with the fenders laying on each side of the boat and that works pretty good!!!
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shepherd
04-29-2008, 05:58 PM
Good idea chudson. I may try that method at CSM.

To you guys talking about installing cleats: I ain't cutting on my boat for the one time per year that I'll actually need to put bumpers on it.

vrsc
11-08-2011, 05:36 AM
Has anybody used these? http://www.boatersworld.com/product/366971109.htm
I'm not sure I can trust the suction cups to hold them overnight.

Since boaters world has since closed their doors, I can't access the reviews on this product. Please let me know your opinions on these suction cups. I am in need of something since I Have no cleats or railings
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Prostar19
11-08-2011, 03:41 PM
http://bigskyprecision.com/Sky-Doc-Cleat.php

MattsCraft
11-08-2011, 04:09 PM
http://bigskyprecision.com/Sky-Doc-Cleat.php
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Prostar19 beat me to it, these are the coolest thing I have ever seen. I emailed them, but did not get a response back yet, have no idea on cost...

Group Buy???

Stritt
11-08-2011, 05:30 PM
If you have a newer style MasterCraft Bimini with quick release and rear pole and not straps get some of these.

If not you could replace the rear clips with the quick release and use too....Used this on our past MC and never had an issue, the mid cleats installed at MC with the boat were to far forward and didn't really work.


http://www.acconmarine.com/p-63-401-quick-release.aspx

MattsCraft
11-09-2011, 02:37 PM
http://bigskyprecision.com/Sky-Doc-Cleat.php

OK, I finally received a call back from these folks, price is $90/set which is 1 male/female system/set, so ideally you would need 4 ($360). Pretty expensive, but I really like their system, set your fenders once and really easy and quick to deploy! They will sell retail, just need to call them to order, no group discount though:( They also have a blind install system if you can't reach behind the gunwale in your application.

Sodar
11-09-2011, 03:06 PM
These are little nicer and less expensive...

http://shopping.rexmar.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Category_Code=cleatsquickpin