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coz
03-20-2008, 11:13 AM
So I noticed drips coming off of this. First remember I'm not a mechanic and have always taken my boats in for service but after the advise and money I saved by the TT'ers info/help on my fuel tank sender unit I thought I'd check the advise on this issue. This is my water pump right? and is this where the impellor is? Do I need a new unit? or can it be repaired? :confused:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3062/2347896762_542f844c7f_b.jpg
Thanks.

wakeX2wake
03-20-2008, 11:15 AM
possibly a old/bad seal... may want to check the tightness of the cover (which i'm assuming you already did)

BrianM
03-20-2008, 11:16 AM
Was the dripping coming from the front or the back?

If it is the front first check that the bolts are tight. If so the little white seal may be getting old. When you replace the impeller you should get a new one of those.

If it is the rear there is rear seal (http://www.skidim.com/prodinfo.asp?number=68-5004) that also goes bad after a while. It is a little harder to replace than the front seal but still pretty easy. Either way it is an easy DIY.

flipper
03-20-2008, 11:17 AM
Yes on the water pump, yes on the impeller, and no don't replace the whole thing. Get a new impeller, it will come with the gasket, and all should be well. The impeller should be replaced every spring before the first trip out anyway.

russlars
03-20-2008, 11:23 AM
If you are talking about the cap with the 4 screws in it, yes that is your impeller housing cover. When was the last time you replaced your impeller? If it has not been replaced within the last year or so, I would order a new impeller which comes with a new gasket. Take out the 4 screws and pull out the old impeller, lubricate inside of housing with the included lubricant and put in new impeller. (there are a few threads on how to remove the old impeller, since sometimes they can be hard to pull out) Line up the new gasket and replace the screws in the cover. I am no mechanic either and I can even do this. Plus you should know how to do this and always carry a spare in case you burn up an impeller! If you have had a new impeller put in recently, you might just try and tighten the screws.:)

coz
03-20-2008, 11:26 AM
Was the dripping coming from the front or the back?

If it is the front first check that the bolts are tight. If so the little white seal may be getting old. When you replace the impeller you should get a new one of those.

If it is the rear there is rear seal (http://www.skidim.com/prodinfo.asp?number=68-5004) that also goes bad after a while. It is a little harder to replace than the front seal but still pretty easy. Either way it is an easy DIY.

OK! it is coming from the back and not the front. This hopefully sounds like it won't be too costly. Do I need special tools? Is there a thread with a step by step? BTW: Thanks for the quick reply ALL! :D

Sodar
03-20-2008, 11:30 AM
If it is dripping from the back, it means that the shaft seal sprung a leak. The instructions to replace the seal are in this thread. (http://www.tmcowners.com/teamtalk/showthread.php?t=10577) You can also just replace the whole pump for about $130 with a new impeller included.

Additional threads on the topic:

http://www.tmcowners.com/teamtalk/showthread.php?t=16667

http://www.tmcowners.com/teamtalk/showthread.php?t=20610

BrianM
03-20-2008, 11:40 AM
More than likely the entire pump does not have to be rebuilt just the seal replaced Order the seal from DIM. I put a link to it in my first post. Remove the cover and the impeller and then remove the pump from the boat. The rear seal comes out and goes in easy. The repair will cost you $20 and about an hour of your time. No special tools required and you do not have to completely disassemble the pump like is done in that pdf. Call DIM and talk to one of their people about the repair when you order the seal. they will walk you through it on the phone.

88 PS190
03-20-2008, 11:49 AM
Atleast its not a prostate.. this is simple.

coz
03-20-2008, 11:51 AM
If it is dripping from the back, it means that the shaft seal sprung a leak. The instructions to replace the seal are in this thread. (http://www.tmcowners.com/teamtalk/showthread.php?t=10577) You can also just replace the whole pump for about $130 with a new impeller included.

Additional threads on the topic:

http://www.tmcowners.com/teamtalk/showthread.php?t=16667

http://www.tmcowners.com/teamtalk/showthread.php?t=20610

More than likely the entire pump does not have to be rebuilt just the seal replaced Order the seal from DIM. I put a link to it in my first post. Remove the cover and the impeller and then remove the pump from the boat. The rear seal comes out and goes in easy. The repair will cost you $20 and about an hour of your time. No special tools required and you do not have to completely disassemble the pump like is done in that pdf. Call DIM and talk to one of their people about the repair when you order the seal. they will walk you through it on the phone.

Thanks guys this is a real big helper and I appreciate it. :D

denverd1
03-20-2008, 11:55 AM
Should've wrapped it up!

I kid. looks like your on the right track. shouldn't be too bad.

6ballsisall
03-20-2008, 11:57 AM
Dude if it's dripping you need to go see the doc. Thats not normal....:uglyhamme

Upper Michigan Prostar190
03-20-2008, 12:02 PM
Dude if it's dripping you need to go see the doc. Thats not normal....:uglyhamme

TRU DAT!

see a doctor.

Ric
03-20-2008, 12:04 PM
Dude if it's dripping you need to go see the doc. Thats not normal....:uglyhamme Better out, than in!

flipper
03-20-2008, 12:04 PM
I think they have the shot in pill form now!!!! Good luck

milkmania
03-20-2008, 12:39 PM
So I noticed drips coming off of this. First remember I'm not a mechanic and have always taken my boats in for service but after the advise and money I saved by the TT'ers info/help on my fuel tank sender unit I thought I'd check the advise on this issue. This is my water pump right? and is this where the impellor is? Do I need a new unit? or can it be repaired? :confused:

Thanks.
coz,
take the advise of these guys (I haven't read all their comments)

but pay attention here!-----------> those are brass bolts in a brass pump housing! do not over tighten them!

at least they are on my 91 PS190:rolleyes:

TMCNo1
03-20-2008, 01:00 PM
Scared me, I thought you needed a shot from the doctor to get rid of something you had caught too!:rolleyes: :D

coz
03-20-2008, 01:08 PM
coz,
take the advise of these guys (I haven't read all their comments)

but pay attention here!-----------> those are brass bolts in a brass pump housing! do not over tighten them!

at least they are on my 91 PS190:rolleyes:


Yes they are on mine too, thanks. Where's the thread for the impeller removal I can't get it out :mad: and I'm ripping off the fins. Thanks. :D

TMCNo1
03-20-2008, 01:15 PM
coz,
take the advise of these guys (I haven't read all their comments)

but pay attention here!-----------> those are brass bolts in a brass pump housing! do not over tighten them!

at least they are on my 91 PS190:rolleyes:
I agree, but on mine I replaced the screws with S/S allen head screws and S/S washers and I don't have the tendency to tighten them too much that way when just using a allen wrench. Always use a new gasket each time you take off the cover!

6ballsisall
03-20-2008, 01:16 PM
So I noticed drips coming off of this. First remember I'm not a mechanic and have always taken my boats in for service but after the advise and money I saved by the TT'ers info/help on my fuel tank sender unit I thought I'd check the advise on this issue. This is my water pump right? and is this where the impellor is? Do I need a new unit? or can it be repaired?
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3062/2347896762_542f844c7f_b.jpg
Thanks.


:popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:

BrianM
03-20-2008, 01:23 PM
Yes they are on mine too, thanks. Where's the thread for the impeller removal I can't get it out :mad: and I'm ripping off the fins. Thanks. :D

Squirt a liitle soap in the housing then crank the motor over a few times. Take two paint can openers and slide then down each side of the impeller and hook atound the pack. Pull firmly and it should slide right out.

TMCNo1
03-20-2008, 01:29 PM
Do I need a new unit? or can it be repaired? :confused:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3062/2347896762_542f844c7f_b.jpg
Thanks.


Is it leaking from the front cover or dripping from the back side of the pump onto the pulley? A new gasket with snug screws when re-installing the impeller for the cover leak or a kit with the rear seal, impeller, cover gasket can be bought to replace the rear seal if it's the backside that's leaking.

coz
03-20-2008, 01:34 PM
:popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:

I'm thinking sodars idea of the whole new pump, this F-n impeller isn't coming out. :mad:

coz
03-20-2008, 01:40 PM
Squirt a liitle soap in the housing then crank the motor over a few times. Take two paint can openers and slide then down each side of the impeller and hook atound the pack. Pull firmly and it should slide right out.

You da man :worthy: it's out! :woohoo: step 1 done. :D

Sodar
03-20-2008, 01:41 PM
I'm thinking sodars idea of the whole new pump, this F-n impeller isn't coming out. :mad:

If it does not work out for ya, here is the cheapest I found when I replaced the whole thing on my LT-1.... http://www.marineexhaustmanifolds.com/rawwater.cfm

Upper Michigan Prostar190
03-20-2008, 01:47 PM
Squirt a liitle soap in the housing then crank the motor over a few times.
Thats what my mother used to tell me back when I was dating in highschool.

coz
03-20-2008, 01:53 PM
Thats what my mother used to tell me back when I was dating in highschool.

And the UMP calls strike one!:D


If it does not work out for ya, here is the cheapest I found when I replaced the whole thing on my LT-1.... http://www.marineexhaustmanifolds.com/rawwater.cfm

Thanks Sodar, I'm off this week so I'm pumped that I've gotten this far with only a little blood drawn so if it gets to difficult I'm going there. :D

TMCNo1
03-20-2008, 01:58 PM
You can always shampoo it!

Ric
03-20-2008, 01:58 PM
Thats what my mother used to tell me back when I was dating in highschool. Ump's high school story seems to remind me of an old story from greek mythology which Freud refers to in his writings but I'd rather not mention here for obvious reasons. But it's duly noted:cool:

Upper Michigan Prostar190
03-20-2008, 02:00 PM
Ump's high school story seems to remind me of an old story from greek mythology which Freud refers to in his writings but I'd rather not mention here for obvious reasons. But it's duly noted:cool:


HEY!!!!! JOCHEPHUS!!!!!!!

coz
03-20-2008, 02:35 PM
So what is this hose hook up for? is this a hook so I can run it out of water? or do I still need the F-a-L?

"click the pic to enlarge"
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3294/2347443803_a4a3a9f19d_b.jpg

flipper
03-20-2008, 02:37 PM
yes, you can use that instead.

coz
03-20-2008, 02:39 PM
yes, you can use that instead.


Thanks Dudes! :headbang: BTW: 1/4 turn on the spigot or more for proper flow? (1/4 was for my old merc)

stuartmcnair
03-20-2008, 02:52 PM
Thanks Dudes! :headbang: BTW: 1/4 turn on the spigot or more for proper flow? (1/4 was for my old merc)

woudln't that depend on the spigot?

flipper
03-20-2008, 02:54 PM
I go full blast with the fake a lake....don't know if the pressure could harm anything on that set up though.

coz
03-20-2008, 03:19 PM
I go full blast with the fake a lake....don't know if the pressure could harm anything on that set up though.

I'll just go with the flow :D

denverd1
03-20-2008, 03:41 PM
get that spigot to WFO

coz
03-20-2008, 04:52 PM
Step two done!:woohoo: Pump off and rear seal removed, it was crystalized, kinda broke out in little hard chuncks but got it all out without pump damage. Ordered the new seal from skidim for $20.25 now I have to freak'n wait! :( oh well that's all right hopefully it saved me some cash and it was a good class in water pump repair. :D


Thanks TT for the help getting me this far! :worthy:

coz
03-24-2008, 07:51 PM
My seal got hear real quick from skidim :woohoo: Any suggestions on how to press it in? it says water only to slip it in but it's gonna be kinda tight and I don't wan't to punch a hole or tear it and still keep the little spring in place. Thanks :)

coz
03-25-2008, 01:45 PM
Step #3 done :woohoo: and per the driveway test it looks like the issue is resolved :banana:

Thanks everyone! the help was very helpful and greatly appreciated. :wavey: