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ShamrockIV
03-16-2008, 10:11 AM
hey guys i am sure someone on here has some advice for me!!
i bought a connelly f1x and some draft boots. the holes do not match up though. :confused:

suggestions???
I am calling them on monday for help but i thought u guys could give me a head start!!

thanks!!!

coz
03-16-2008, 10:23 AM
suggestions???

http://www.tools-hills.com/images/14-4-Volt-Cordless-Drill-Kit-B000BPR3YU-M.jpg
:D

ShamrockIV
03-16-2008, 10:31 AM
http://www.tools-hills.com/images/14-4-Volt-Cordless-Drill-Kit-B000BPR3YU-M.jpg
:D

only 12 min for u to post that!!! thanks

D3skier
03-16-2008, 10:44 AM
hey guys i am sure someone on here has some advice for me!!
i bought a connelly f1x and some draft boots. the holes do not match up though. :confused:

suggestions???
I am calling them on monday for help but i thought u guys could give me a head start!!

thanks!!!


what year is the F1X that you bought?

ShamrockIV
03-16-2008, 11:02 AM
what year is the F1X that you bought?

not sure but i will post some pice it is red and black if that helps!!

JohnE
03-16-2008, 11:02 AM
Did you buy these items new or used?

D3skier
03-16-2008, 11:03 AM
yes it does... I think your ski is an 04 model which is the old hole pattern in 05 they changed these patterns so the new boots won't fit the older skis

JohnE
03-16-2008, 11:03 AM
I have the same ski in red and black. I bought it new from Wiley's in '06 and they told me those are the '07 colors. I had a choice of the red and black or the silver '06 color scheme. I'd buy Wiley's boots for the ski. Very comfortable.

ShamrockIV
03-16-2008, 11:03 AM
bought ski used and boots almost new from a buddy of mine!! they were too big for him.

ProTour X9
03-16-2008, 11:04 AM
My next ski will probably be the F1X, with HO Animal bindings........or the best fitting bindings. Tell us how it skis when you get out on the water.

D3skier
03-16-2008, 11:08 AM
I just bought the '07 F1X from H2Osmosis the week. So it looks like I'll have to sell one of my other skis to offset the cost...

ShamrockIV
03-16-2008, 11:09 AM
dang!! will the wiley boots match the holes or do i have to change anything??

i am hoping connelley will have a fix when i call them!!

hey john u got a link to those boots??
anybody know anything about the new radar boots!!

ShamrockIV
03-16-2008, 11:11 AM
hey d3 what color is urs??

BrianM
03-16-2008, 11:14 AM
Worst case is you will have to drill a couple of more holes in the ski. No big deal people do it all of the time. You can either use sheet metal screws or buy a couple of new inserts and epoxy those in. Either way there is no need to buy new bindings.

D3skier
03-16-2008, 11:22 AM
hey d3 what color is urs??


I've got a 04 69" that is black and red and the 07 is in the mail and should be here Mon or Tue

32462
2007 F1X

ShamrockIV
03-16-2008, 11:58 AM
I've got a 04 69" that is black and red and the 07 is in the mail and should be here Mon or Tue

32462
2007 F1X

mine does not look like this pic mine may be like ur 04. how does 04 ski??

JohnE
03-16-2008, 12:03 PM
Worst case is you will have to drill a couple of more holes in the ski. No big deal people do it all of the time. You can either use sheet metal screws or buy a couple of new inserts and epoxy those in. Either way there is no need to buy new bindings.

Brian, good point. :)

88 PS190
03-16-2008, 02:35 PM
Connelly came out with a new hole pattern not too long ago, the old one has a long metal plate that extends forwards of the boot to the front holes.

Best way to mount new ones is a #10 sheet metal screw in stainless steel.

You drill a pilot and screw them down.

Plug your old holes with some silicone, i'd put some on the new screws as well.

I also really like using finish washers to keep it all together.

ShamrockIV
03-17-2008, 12:41 PM
here is pics of the ski in question.

Hollywood
03-17-2008, 12:46 PM
What size are those Stokers and what are you planning on doing with them?

ShamrockIV
03-17-2008, 12:50 PM
large and i already sold them to bryan. good set huh!!

Hollywood
03-17-2008, 12:56 PM
I recently picked up an F3 with a L front stoker and M rear. I wear a 12 so I know the M will be collecting dust this summer. I have an XL front to put on incase I can't squeeze into the L. Will be in need of a rear, probably an XL as I like some room in the back but I'd be OK with a toe piece. I have a rear Animal that I love, but looks taller (thicker foot bed) so I'd need to rig up something to lift the front boot to level it out.

88 PS190
03-17-2008, 03:28 PM
I recently picked up an F3 with a L front stoker and M rear. I wear a 12 so I know the M will be collecting dust this summer. I have an XL front to put on incase I can't squeeze into the L. Will be in need of a rear, probably an XL as I like some room in the back but I'd be OK with a toe piece. I have a rear Animal that I love, but looks taller (thicker foot bed) so I'd need to rig up something to lift the front boot to level it out.

Be very careful when mixing and matching soft boots. You want the front one to be as tight or tighter than the rear boot. The worst crash is one where your front foot comes out and the rear stays put, the tip of the ski in an OTF of this style will rip your leg backwards and is a great way to wreck a knee, leg, ankle etc. Its a bad thing, plus you do not want to be small in the rear boot because it will tend to put your weight further back.

BrianM
03-17-2008, 03:40 PM
So Sham did you call Cannelly? If so what was their suggestion? If not get on it.

ShamrockIV
03-17-2008, 03:42 PM
i talked to them and sent them the above pic of the ski for reference!!

we'll see what they come up with!!!!

Hollywood
03-17-2008, 04:30 PM
You want the front one to be as tight or tighter than the rear boot.

I was also baffled by the fact the PO was skiing (or maybe not....) with a L front and M rear. Like I said earlier, I'm looking for an XL rear stoker or toe plate, as I already have an L and XL front.

ShamrockIV
03-17-2008, 09:09 PM
i am surorised nobosy had identified the ski!!!
i emailed the pics to connelly maybe they can id it and help with bindings!!

88 PS190
03-17-2008, 09:42 PM
have a straight down shot of the top?

ShamrockIV
03-17-2008, 09:44 PM
not yet but i will get one and post it!!

88 PS190
03-17-2008, 10:00 PM
actually I looked, you seem to have the old bolt pattern from what I can see.

Wiley's will tell you to drill it and mount with #10's and forget about it (this is the same advice they will give you regardless if its a brand new Goode 9800 or an old KD)

I've done this to 10+ skis from old tricks to my D3, to a goode.

If you are worried about that, get in touch with paul jager from www.jagersport.com he makes the Fluid Motion hardshells, but sells a stainless insert that is threaded on the outside.

Follow his directions, set the new front boot in place, and mark the holes, drill and install his inserts according to instructions.

To fill old holes permanantly get some epoxy and carbon chop, push it into the holes smooth it over.

These two things are really simple, I'd be fine with the #10's I do not think there is an adapter for the drafts/new connelly onto the old connelly pattern.

D3skier
03-17-2008, 10:15 PM
mine does not look like this pic mine may be like ur 04. how does 04 ski??

honestly... I don't know because I just bought it back in December and this one is too big for me 69" I actually got it to try and entice my old ski partner to start skiing with me like he use to a few years back.

D3skier
03-17-2008, 10:17 PM
here is pics of the ski in question.


yup... that's what my 04 looks like

alletric
03-17-2008, 10:30 PM
What is the big deal about mounting bindings by predrilling holes and then mounting them with sheetmetal screws. This is the third thread about it I have seen recently and was wondering if something had changed about the new(97 and up) skis that you could not do this. In the day all our ski's came blank and you mounted everything. Just wondering.

ShamrockIV
03-17-2008, 10:33 PM
not sure why the change. i just thought connlley ski would match connelly bindings!! imagine my horrow when the holes did not match up!!

88 PS190
03-17-2008, 10:37 PM
not sure why the change. i just thought connlley ski would match connelly bindings!! imagine my horrow when the holes did not match up!!

Think the new connelly pattern matches more skis, like a D3 or HO pattern, I forget which.

the old one is unique.

ShamrockIV
03-17-2008, 10:38 PM
Think the new connelly pattern matches more skis, like a D3 or HO pattern, I forget which.

the old one is unique.


i should have known, my lucky streak continues i see!!!:D

88 PS190
03-17-2008, 10:39 PM
i should have known, my lucky streak continues i see!!!:D

yep took me 15 minutes to mount wileys to an F3, the rear two holes on the front binding matched the ski already.

ShamrockIV
03-18-2008, 01:10 PM
well here u go boys!!! whatcha think??? here is connelly's email

Alright, well I've got good news and bad news. The ski you have appears to be previous to 2003, in which case what you need is a conversion plate. The good news is that we are working on conversion plates for draft bindings.
The bad news is that they are still on the drawing board and there is no guarantee that they will be available this season. So your options are to re-drill or to hold out for an unknown amount of time which I admit is pretty lame. Sorry I couldn't be of more help, or rather that I had to bare some bad news to you. Let me know if there is any other way I may assist you.

Thanks for riding Connelly and have a great day!

88 PS190
03-18-2008, 01:25 PM
which I admit is pretty lame.


that about says it all, really its in your court, i've been happy with either #10's or inserts

I wouldn't wait just for them to come out with some plates.

Hollywood
03-18-2008, 02:43 PM
Shamrock, I just read your signature. Does your father have a Ski Nautique on nitrous?

I may be in the same boat as you as far as bindings. I have an older F3 with a Large stoker, and an XL Stoker on the new base plate. If I can't fit in the L I'll be figuring something out to get that XL on there and will let you know how I do it. Worst case scenario, you need a new footbed from Connelly, and rebuild the binding on an old plate, or possibly a Wiley's.

ShamrockIV
03-18-2008, 02:52 PM
nope dad does have nor has never had that word u said kinda boat lol

not sure about plate bro the drafts are hinge tech u know.

ShamrockIV
03-18-2008, 03:24 PM
would it not be feasable to make my own plate? lay something down on the ski and get a pattern and then lay bindings on the pattern. drill the plateto fit old holes and then thread holes in to the plate??? make it out of aluminum or stainless??? any ideas!!!!

BrianM
03-18-2008, 03:30 PM
Just drill it and use the #10 screws and ski. Done deal.

sethro
03-18-2008, 03:57 PM
D3skier, as I read your post I assume you don't use the ski as it is too big for you? I've always wanted to try and F1X and would definitely need the 69"...any interest in parting with it?

Shamrock, I've drilled many a ski like BrianM is talking about. Shouldn't cause you any problems.

ShamrockIV
03-18-2008, 04:00 PM
may i get some driliing instructions?
pre-drill i am sure??

BrianM
03-18-2008, 04:17 PM
Pre-Drill the holes slightly small than the screws. Either use a stop on the bit or at least wrap some tape around it at the depth you want to stop. Drill slowly so the bit doesn't go all the way through the ski. Use some #10 sheet metal screws about 1/2 - 3/4" long and you are good to go. Should take like 10 minutes tops.

D3skier
03-18-2008, 04:49 PM
D3skier, as I read your post I assume you don't use the ski as it is too big for you? I've always wanted to try and F1X and would definitely need the 69"...any interest in parting with it?

Shamrock, I've drilled many a ski like BrianM is talking about. Shouldn't cause you any problems.


hit me up about it in a few months about it... right now I bought it for my ski partner to use and we should be skiing here hopefully in the next few weeks