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kjohnson
02-25-2008, 07:15 AM
Did anyone see Shawn's "eye opening" show last night on the health care costs for illegal aliens and how all the hospitals are going broke. Also the number of people crossing the border each day is unbelievable. Several police chiefs in Nuevo Laredo (across the border from Laredo, Texas) have been killed, one within 6 hours of taking office. We need a wall and quickly. Our borders are wide open!

coz
02-25-2008, 07:45 AM
Did anyone see Shawn's "eye opening" show last night on the health care costs for illegal aliens and how all the hospitals are going broke. Also the number of people crossing the border each day is unbelievable. Several police chiefs in Nuevo Laredo (across the border from Laredo, Texas) have been killed, one within 6 hours of taking office. We need a wall and quickly. Our borders are wide open!


Here's an interesting site related to that. :D
http://borderfenceproject.com/

Jim@BAWS
02-25-2008, 07:52 AM
This was sent to me last night


This English teacher has phrased it the best I've seen yet:

Tomatoes and Cheap Labor

CHEAP TOMATOES?
This should make everyone think, be you Democrat, Republican or Independent

From a California school teacher - - -


'As you listen to the news about the student protests over illegal immigration, there are some things that you should be aware of:

I am in charge of the English-as-a-second-language department at a large southern California high school which is designated a Title 1 school, meaning that its students average lower socioeconomic
and income levels.

Most of the schools you are hearing about, South Gate High, Bell Gardens , Huntington Park , etc., where these students are protesting, are also Title 1 schools.

Title 1 schools are on the free breakfast and free lunch program. When I say free breakfast, I'm not talking a glass of milk and roll -- but a full breakfast and cereal bar with fruits and juices that would make a Marriott proud. The waste of this food is monumental, with trays and trays of it being dumped in the trash uneaten. ( OUR TAX DOLLARS
AT WORK )

I estimate that well over 50% of these students are obese or at least moderately overweight. About 75% or more DO have cell phones . The school also provides day care centers for the unwed teenage pregnant girls (some as young as 13) so they can attend class without the inconvenience of having to arrange for babysitters or having family watch their kids. (OUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK)

I was ordered to spend $700,000 on my department or risk losing
funding for the upcoming year even though there was little need for anything; my budget was already substantial. I ended up buying new computers for the computer learning center, half of which, one month later, have been carved with graffiti by the appreciative students who obviously feel humbled and grateful to have a free education in America .
(OUR TAX DOLLARS AT WORK)

I have had to intervene several times for young and substitute teachers whose classes consist of many illegal immigrant students here in the country less then 3 months who raised so much hell with the female teachers, calling them 'Putas' whores and throwing things that the teachers were in tears.

Free medical, free education, free food, day
care
etc., etc, etc. Is it any wonder they feel entitled to not only be in this country but to demand rights, privileges and entitlements ?

To those who want to point out how much these illegal immigrants contribute to our society because they LIKE their gardener and housekeeper and they like to pay less for tomatoes: spend some time in the real world of illegal
immigration and see the TRUE costs.

Higher insurance, medical facilities closing , higher medical costs, more crime, lower standards of education in our schools, overcrowding, new diseases etc., etc, etc . For me, I'll pay more for tomatoes.

We need to wake up. The guest worker program will be a disaster because we won't have the guts to enforce it . Does anyone in their right mind really think they will voluntarily leave and return?


It does, however, have everything to do with culture: A third-world culture that does not value education , that accepts children getting pregnant and dropping out of school by 15 and that refuses
to assimilate , and an American culture that has become so weak and worried about ' politically correctness ' that we don't have the will to do any thing about it.

If this makes your blood boil, as it did mine, forward this to everyone you know.

CHEAP LABOR? Isn't that what the whole immigration issue is about?

Business doesn't want to pay a decent
wage.

Consumers don't want expensive produce.

Government will tell you Americans don't want the jobs.

But the bottom line is cheap labor. The phrase 'cheap labor' is a myth , a farce, and a lie. There is no such thing as 'cheap labor.'


Take, for example, an illegal alien with a wife and five children. He takes a job for
$5.00 or 6.00/hour. At that wage, with six dependents, he pays no income tax, yet at the end of the year, if he files an Income Tax Return, he gets an ' earned income credit' of up to $3,200 free.

He qualifies for Section 8 housing and subsidized rent .

He qualifies
for food stamps.

He qualifies for free (no deductible, no co-pay) health care.

His children get free breakfasts and lunches
at school.
He requires bilingual teachers and books.

He qualifies for relief from high energy bills.

If they are or become, aged, blind or disabled , they qualify for SSI. Once qualified for SSI they can qualify for Medicare . All of this is at (our) taxpayer's expense .

He doesn't worry about car insurance, life insurance, or homeowners insurance.

Taxpayers provide Spanish language signs, bulletins and printed material.

He and his family receive the equivalent of $20.00 to $30.00/hour in benefits.

Working Americans
are lucky to have $5.00 or $6.00/hour left after paying their bills and his.

The American taxpayers also pay for increased crime, graffiti and trash clean-up.

Cheap labor? YEAH RIGHT! Wake up people!

THESE ARE THE QUESTIONS WE SHOULD BE ADDRESSING TO THE PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES FOR EITHER PARTY. 'AND WHEN THEY LIE TO US AND DON'T DO AS THEY SAY, WE SHOULD REPLACE THEM AT ONCE!'

THIS HAS GOT TO BE PASSED ALONG TO AS MANY AS POSSIBLE OR WE WILL ALL GO DOWN THE DRAIN BECAUSE A FEW DON'T CARE.

kjohnson
02-25-2008, 08:30 AM
Very interesting article. I work for the Federal Government and see this waste all of the time in other areas.

What bothers me a lot is all of the Muslims that could just walk across the border into the US.

D3skier
02-25-2008, 08:47 AM
very good article and very well put. She has a good point to what americans have to pay for these illegal immigrants to be here and they get everything handed to them and still live like trash. Not only to mention the amount of fuel consumption they use as well all on our dollar.

coz
02-25-2008, 08:54 AM
Very interesting article. I work for the Federal Government and see this waste all of the time in other areas.

What bothers me a lot is all of the Muslims that could just walk across the border into the US.

I'm from Arizona and this state isn't messing around anymore with illegals. If your in AZ illegally you don't just get deported you will be arrested, charged (felony) and sent back over the border, there are posses going around Maricopa County picking them up. They are litterally leaving the state by the truck loads and heading to the states that aren't so hard on them. Other states need to do the same. On the plus side of all this is the fact all the cheap labor is leaving and leaving employers the only option of hiring legals and that will mean higher pay.

ShamrockIV
02-25-2008, 09:03 AM
this is the single biggest issue facing our country right now!!!
as a military person i think this is even more important than the war.
the right answers to this problem are not easy!! they are not kind, gentle plans that liberals and people with kind hearts will like. but the right thing to do is never the easy thing!!! i think we must look at this like i did when i iwas in iraq! there are two kinds of people in the world; AMERICANS and everyone else!!! Americans are first priority!! Everyone else is secondary!!!

the fact that our borders are not secure is BS. It is too easy to do but as i said will not make us any friends or keep liberals happy!!!

meanwhile my kids and yours must share a classroom with kids that have and carry god knows what diseases!!

sorry i will get off my soapbox!! as you can see i take this very seriously!!

TMCNo1
02-25-2008, 09:30 AM
Who's gonna rebuild the country after 'Civil War II'?

coz
02-25-2008, 09:33 AM
the fact that our borders are not secure is BS. It is too easy to do but as i said will not make us any friends or keep liberals happy!!!

meanwhile my kids and yours must share a classroom with kids that have and carry god knows what diseases!!

sorry i will get off my soapbox!! as you can see i take this very seriously!!

I'm with you Sham, Here's an article that I hope scare all the employers hiring illegals.
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1716547,00.html

ShamrockIV
02-25-2008, 09:37 AM
i saw a great bumper sticker the other day:

"Ask an indian about uncontrolled immigration"

coz
02-25-2008, 10:04 AM
i saw a great bumper sticker the other day:

"Ask an indian about uncontrolled immigration"

Put a bumper sticker like that on your car in AZ and you'll probably get scalped. This is the land of the injuns. :confused:

ShamrockIV
02-25-2008, 10:07 AM
Put a bumper sticker like that on your car in AZ and you'll probably get scalped. This is the land of the injuns. :confused:

yes but how true is it??(the sticker)