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Grover777
02-23-2008, 11:03 PM
Hi:

I am in the market for a "pre loved" MC. I am looking in the $25k range, with open bow. I am open to a v drive (my wife isn't a fan of the direct drive hump), although I could persuade her to consider a 205.

Are there some years that are better than others? What can I expect for around 25k or less?

Perhaps I could wait 10 years and get a 2007 X-2! :)

Thanks!

lanier92prostar
02-23-2008, 11:58 PM
Have you checked on the Marketplace? I have seen some good deals there.

88 PS190
02-24-2008, 12:01 AM
I think the first thing is to figure out what boat type you want. If you are into boarding and want a family boat the V-drives are fine, just don't be fooled into thinking they will be great slalom boats.

As long as that's all sorted just take your time and look at the deals.

I don't think with the v-drives that there are certain years I'd recomend, there are more changes I am aware of in the direct drive style hull.

east tx skier
02-24-2008, 12:54 AM
I think 88's radar is right on. After a few drinks, my advice is to grab a 205v or one of its progeny. For someone in between 80% and 100% wakeboarding, that's probably you best bang for your buck (coming from someone who is a slalom skier)

russlars
02-24-2008, 02:57 AM
On the V-Drive vs. Direct Drive issue. Just remember, you can turn a direct drive into a pretty decent wakeboarding boat by adding weight. However, you will never turn a V-Drive boat into a decent slalom skiing boat. Just a thought, but it really depends on what you want to do with your boat!:twocents:

icedog-10
02-24-2008, 09:12 AM
If you have a family and are not a hardcore skier go with a 205v. The ski wake is better than most V drives and you get a lot more storage and space. I love my direct drive, but put my kids their friends and what ever else they bring with 2 wakeboards, my ski, 10 different life vests, you are stessed out more at the end of the day than you were at the beginneng. That should not happen with a boat you spent all that money on.

Grover777
02-24-2008, 09:34 AM
Thanks for the replies! I do ski the course a bit, however, we use my friends SN or MC 190, so I am looking more for a family boat that has a decent open water ski wake, as I dont plan on using it in the course.

I was looking at DD 205s.

Any particular years for the 205V or 205 DD that are better than others?

Thanks!

Jerseydave
02-24-2008, 10:46 AM
4 words for you, my friend..............

Happy wife, happy life!

With that said, and since you have 2 nice slalom boats avail. to ski behind, I would lean toward the 205V, early X-star hull. The hulls should be the same, look for differences in upholstery, tower, etc. Like someone said try the marketplace here, also try these places:

www.onlyinboards.com
www.boattrader.com
www.wakeworld.com
www.wakeboarder.com

Good luck with your purchase and welcome to the wonderful world of Mastercraft ownership! :)

ShamrockIV
02-24-2008, 11:46 AM
go with a 205 or 205v!! i love my 205. i am lucky my wife actually prefers the dd hump!! lol no really we think it breaks the boat up into 3 sections. with kids and guests in a 205v i would be all crowded i think. plus i would get tired of climnbing over the huge sunpad/motor hatch on a vdrive. JMHO!!

Covi
02-24-2008, 01:33 PM
http://www.waterskimag.com/video.jsp?streamingLink=worldpub_boats2005_masterc raft_x2_205v

Here you go, review on the 2005, 205 v

ShamrockIV
02-24-2008, 01:34 PM
i also think it is an old slalom born in a S&S thing!!!

88 PS190
02-24-2008, 01:43 PM
The best open water boats are the ones with the most V.

They will also no matter what have a taller, firmer, and mostly wider wake, the width is what kills me in slalom. A single firm too tall wake I will be through before my edge change, my knees will get sore but it works. As the wake gets wide you hit the first and then you hit the second so it drops my swing.

But since you have access to a DD to ski the course, I see no reason not to go for the V-drive besides ease of work and less crisp cornering, but you aren't whipping a boarder or rec. skier around to get into the course again, so no problems there.

russlars
02-26-2008, 01:58 AM
Thanks for the replies! I do ski the course a bit, however, we use my friends SN or MC 190, so I am looking more for a family boat that has a decent open water ski wake, as I dont plan on using it in the course.

I was looking at DD 205s.

Any particular years for the 205V or 205 DD that are better than others?

Thanks!
I have been very happy with my 99 Prostar 205. With a tower it does everything very well. It's got lots of room, good storage and you can probably find one in the price range you are in.

H20skeefreek
02-26-2008, 08:28 AM
Since you do slalom, I would recommend getting the DD 205. You never know what the future will hold with your friends boats, access to a course etc... As was mentioned before, you can turn a DD 205 into a great wakeboard boat, but not vice versa. Get you a 205 with a nice tower with plenty of racks to keep the boards/skis off the floor and you'll be happy.

Trent 197
02-26-2008, 12:04 PM
Russlars got the most important point. If you ever want to slalom, you need direct drive. I have an '08 197 and it kicks up size wake at slower speeds and a ballast.

flipper
02-26-2008, 12:09 PM
I would go with the ps 205. You can set it up to get the best of both worlds.

flipper
02-26-2008, 12:09 PM
I would go with the ps 205. You can set it up to get the best of both worlds.

Trent 197
02-26-2008, 12:23 PM
Russlars got the most important point. If you ever want to slalom, you need direct drive. I have an '08 197 and it kicks up size wake at slower speeds and a ballast.

River Rat
02-26-2008, 12:56 PM
My 98 will be up for sale soon! It needs some minor interior work but for 18k you will have plenty left over for repairs and customizing.:D

BrandonKTM
02-26-2008, 03:07 PM
The dd hump allows for more positions.....

Grover777
02-26-2008, 05:32 PM
Thanks for all of the input. I am keeping an eye out for a 205 dd or v. Hopefully I can track one down fairly close to home.

JohnE
02-26-2008, 06:34 PM
I also would go DD if I had the choice.

Jerseydave
02-26-2008, 08:27 PM
The dd hump allows for more positions.....

HA HA HA! Am I the only one who caught this? :D

88 PS190
02-26-2008, 08:35 PM
lol njskier has about the same mental filter as I do.

JohnE
02-26-2008, 08:40 PM
HA HA HA! Am I the only one who caught this? :D

Nah, I caught it too....But the OP did say "previously loved MC" so the bump might be a drawback in this case.

Grover777
02-26-2008, 11:05 PM
Haha! When it comes to boats, I am not opposed to sloppy seconds, as long as she has low hours and her gelcoat is nice!

TI Skiier
02-27-2008, 12:48 AM
You really need to figure out what you want to do with the boat. I really think you get the most flexibility with a direct drive. The waterski magazine boat buyers guide is a great resource.

C36
02-27-2008, 07:11 PM
Grover777:

There is also some information in the
"1996-2000 ProStar 205/205V/Maristar205/X-star/X-2/X-1: A History" thread which you might find of interest. To view the thread, just click here (http://www.tmcowners.com/teamtalk/showthread.php?t=15198).

dougl
02-27-2008, 07:37 PM
As mentioned in previous replies really think about how you're going to use the boat. We bought DD (PS195) 2 summers ago thinking we would ski most of the time since thats what we did with our old I/O (before kids) and my buddies SNOB. Now we mostly wakeboard behind it, which does a fine job for us. But 80% of the time we have at least 6 people if not 8 in the boat, so even when we do ski the wake isn't all that good, and it's crowded. So I'm starting to work on the CFO to fund a newer X2.

yippikaiyay
02-27-2008, 07:46 PM
go with a 205 or 205v!! i love my 205. i am lucky my wife actually prefers the dd hump!! lol no really we think it breaks the boat up into 3 sections. with kids and guests in a 205v i would be all crowded i think. plus i would get tired of climnbing over the huge sunpad/motor hatch on a vdrive. JMHO!!
Yeah, I agree!

Grover777
02-28-2008, 09:27 PM
Is there a difference in beam for the 205 versus the 209? Is the 209 wider?

Thanks!!

Grover777
02-28-2008, 10:46 PM
Nevermind! I got it, 209 is 96 and 205 is 90.

What were the major differences between the 205 and 209? What was the first year the 209 was made? I am thinking the extra width may be more palatable in the direct drive (more room around motor, etc).

What are the thoughts between the 2 boats?

Thanks!

cbryan70
02-28-2008, 10:54 PM
one of my buddies has a 209. Everyone that skis or wakeboards say it isnt good at either just a good toob puller

kycat2007
02-29-2008, 12:20 AM
You should ask Mag he has a 209 and he does everything on it. I have heard the ski wake is pretty rough as well.