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jarlens
02-16-2008, 09:22 AM
Hi all.
It is my first post here, and I am excited to join this awesome forum.
Iīm btw. from Denmark, so I have to appologize for my written english, I is getting a bit rusty since I donīt write that much :)

Iīve been looking to import a MC from the states. Itīs been quite a puzzle with all the damn EU regulations on emissions, and all the hassle with customs, but I am getting there..
I recently found a nice looking 2003 MC Prostar 197 TT w. the 310HP Indmar MC TBI but before I buy, I need to check a few things.

On Jan. 01 2008, the EU made a new set of regulations on importing boats from the US.
It seems itīs not allowed to import a boat with an engine from 2002 or older (because of emissions), all compliant engines are listed by engine family number.

The guys in customs simply have a check list, and if the number doesenīt match or they canīt find the correct number, the boat simply is not allowed to enter the EU.
Iīve been told that they are quite beurucratic, and since itīs a new regulation, they are not very flexible.

So my problem is that I need to confirm the "engine family number" on a 2003 MC TBI engine... There is no eng. fam. number listed on the boat, so I thought Iīd ask you guys for help... :)

Thanks in advance,
Jarl

TMCNo1
02-16-2008, 09:47 AM
I would be tempted to contact Indmar Marine Engines directly @ http://www.indmar.com/ and see if the can assist you in getting the info/documentation that may be required since they are the manufacturer.

Ric
02-16-2008, 09:59 AM
Well you have come to the right place. There are several engine experts who pitch in here as well as several knowlegeable dealers. (I am neither)

Bumping you to the top.....

André
02-16-2008, 10:34 AM
Welcome to the board!
Not sure of your exact question here.
Since the engines are now running cleaner then before,could it be that the engine need to be 2002 or newer?
Never read somethin about "engine family number"...:confused:

André
02-16-2008, 10:34 AM
Sorry......

jarlens
02-16-2008, 01:38 PM
Thanks guys,
I wrote Indmar directly and gave them the serial number on the engine, so hopefully they will be able to give me a engine family numer on that type of engine.

Btw. a "engine family number" would look like this: 3INDM05.7NE3

jarlens
02-19-2008, 06:50 AM
Just got a mail from Indmar and they gave me a number, it turns out to be a positive match, so the boat should slip through EU customs without problems.. But lets see how it goes.. :-)

Just in case anybody else should need the number in the future:
Engine Family Number, 2003 MC TBI: 3INDM05.7NE2

TMCNo1
02-19-2008, 07:43 AM
Great to hear they were able to help you. Welcome to the site!

JohnE
02-19-2008, 07:54 AM
Welcome to the site. Post some pics of the boat when you get it.

TI Skiier
02-20-2008, 12:41 AM
congratulations! Look forward to the pictures

VTJC
02-20-2008, 01:48 AM
Do you plan to convert the boat to run on propane? If so you might want to look for an MCX powered 197, I have found my friends to 05 to be a bit lacking with the 310 and with propane you loose power.

jarlens
02-20-2008, 05:14 AM
I currently don´t have any plans on converting it to propane, but with danish gas prices at $7,10 pr gallon, it is going to be very tempting... I have been looking for the smaller TBI, hoping it would be a little less thirsty.

I found this boat a couple of weeks ago, and the guys at Bay Watersports have been very helpful in arranging shipping.
http://www.baywatersports.com/pre_owned_detail.asp?sid=03920099X2K20K2008J3I04I3 9JAMQ3197R0&veh=636663
It is pretty clean looking, and it seems like a good deal.
Now, all i have to do is to wait for a couple of months for the boat to arrive... :)

AussieMC
02-20-2008, 05:55 AM
Congrats on your new boat. Are the many MC's in Denmark?
I'm sure you will be happy with your new boat, I love mine.:) :)

jarlens
02-20-2008, 07:58 AM
I think there is only about a handful in Denmark and only a single used boat on the marked, a 1999 prostar 190, 350 hrs, asking $32.000.
It is actually very difficult to find any used MC´s in Europe.. I only seem to get 10-15 boats on my search results, and they are a bit pricey as well.
So by importing I get a bit more bang for the buck.. :)

T Scott
02-20-2008, 09:07 AM
I currently donīt have any plans on converting it to propane, but with danish gas prices at $7,10 pr gallon, it is going to be very tempting... I have been looking for the smaller TBI, hoping it would be a little less thirsty.

I found this boat a couple of weeks ago, and the guys at Bay Watersports have been very helpful in arranging shipping.
http://www.baywatersports.com/pre_owned_detail.asp?sid=03920099X2K20K2008J3I04I3 9JAMQ3197R0&veh=636663
It is pretty clean looking, and it seems like a good deal.
Now, all i have to do is to wait for a couple of months for the boat to arrive... :)

Looks like a nice boat! The folks at Bay Area Water Sports will take good care of you! Good luck!

russlars
02-20-2008, 11:55 AM
As a fellow Danish/American welcome to the board. I wish you the best in getting your MC to Denmark. Where do you plan on skiing in Denmark? I have been through the Denmark a few times and love it there. Wonderful and beautiful people! I would love to visit there again sometime.:)

pq2
02-20-2008, 01:10 PM
congratulations, very nice boat.

#47of100TeamMC
02-20-2008, 02:41 PM
Looks like a nice boat! The folks at Bay Area Water Sports will take good care of you! Good luck!

I don't think you are talking about the same dealer... Looks like Bay Watersports is in Maryland.

moleson10
02-20-2008, 04:25 PM
197s rule. You'll love it!

Seems like when I've been in europe I see mostly correct crafts.

jarlens
02-20-2008, 05:45 PM
Again, thanks for the warm welcome guys, and thanks for a great forum.. it´s very addictive :)
I live in Copenhagen so I will be skiing here most of the time. It is a pretty nice city with lots of channels to cruise in after a day on the water.
Russlars, if you or anyone of you fellow MC´ers ever drop by, Let me know, maybe I can arrange a few pulls or a give a tour of the city - by boat off course :)

VTJC
02-20-2008, 07:31 PM
Looks like a great boat. BAWS will take car of you that’s where my current boat came from. It had a shorter trip to me though. Jamie