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Workin' 4 Toys
01-03-2008, 11:05 AM
A poll on preference
Assuming 3/4 or 1 ton

6ballsisall
01-03-2008, 11:09 AM
:popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:

RexDog1
01-03-2008, 11:19 AM
I have two GMC’s and they both run very well with no issues:D
And I am not a big Ford fan,,,,, but if I was going to get a 1 ton……… hum??? I would get a ford :rolleyes:

Mikey
01-03-2008, 11:28 AM
It depends on a few things for me. If it were to be a Deisel I would most likely go with the Dodge, if it were a gas engine I would probably go with Chevy. I am not brand loyal.

ShamrockIV
01-03-2008, 11:44 AM
i like both chevy/gmc and ford. my next truck will either be a denali pickup or an avalanche!!

ProTour X9
01-03-2008, 01:04 PM
I think the current results pretty much show how it is. Ford all the way!!

Workin' 4 Toys
01-03-2008, 01:32 PM
They should all have in the 4x4 line up a Live axle up front, Manual hubs, and manual shift transfer case as options or base IMO.

Workin' 4 Toys
01-03-2008, 01:35 PM
One, two, or all three selections are allowed. (Not sure if everyone knew that:confused: )

east tx skier
01-03-2008, 01:48 PM
We just sold my wife's 97 Explorer after 267,416 virtually trouble free miles. We suspect it was one of the 97s that was built at 10 a.m. on a Wednesday.

Workin' 4 Toys
01-03-2008, 02:00 PM
We just sold my wife's 97 Explorer after 267,416 virtually trouble free miles. We suspect it was one of the 97s that was built at 10 a.m. on a Wednesday.
One of the guys has a 99ranger about to flip 200k... Can't say trouble free though, he just dropped abouy $3000.00 on a brand new trans for it. It doesn't appear to me he has any ambition to get into something else.


There was a guy that stopped by my place not so long ago. He drives more than anyone I have ever met. Has a 1 1/2 year old Dodge 1 ton with near 300,000 and he was complaining of it being on its 3rd trans "already".
Previous truck to that he had gone through a Chevy 1 ton with near 600,000 with 2 transmissions, and previous to that a Ford with 3 transmissions in 500,000.
Now I am going off memory of what he told me a couple months ago. I wish I would have wrote down what he said exactly and posted it, I could be off with my numbers slightly.

Datdude
01-03-2008, 02:13 PM
I like certain things about all three:rolleyes: .

I like the Dodge if it has the Cummins in it....but the interior is cheap looking and the transmissions are suspect. The Quad Cab is also too small so it would have to be a Mega Cab

I like the interior room of the Ford crew cab, but the Powerstrokes after the 7.3L scare me.

I like the Duramax/Allison combo in the Chevy, but the back seat is just a little too tight compared to the Ford/Dodge Mega

Based on the combination of the Duramax/Allison and a great interior I chose the Chevy. They also seem to hold value better than the Dodge

Sodar
01-03-2008, 02:40 PM
My next vehicle will be a lowered Chevy Dually (Duramax/Allison Combo) on total air-ride suspension. Neighbor just did the same thing to his '07 and it rides nicer than a Mercedes and pulls better than any 1 ton I have been in.

lanier92prostar
01-03-2008, 03:01 PM
I have a chevy 2500HD 4X4 and I agree with Datdude, I wish the backseat was larger. I have no complaints on mine yet and I tow a large trailer and it tows it well. For the long trips, I just wish the back seat had a little more room.

pq2
01-03-2008, 03:07 PM
I got my fx4, and I love it, big difference with my old chevy, hope i can say the same things in a couple of years

rspiecha
01-03-2008, 03:32 PM
For 3/4 to 1 ton trucks:
Work Truck: Ford (no denying it, they have a stronger front end, and plenty of room)
Personal Truck: Chevy (softer, quieter ride with very good power and excellent transmission)
All out pulling: Dodge (I see more Dodge trucks pulling 5th wheel trailers than I see Ford or Chevy)

rholmes
01-05-2008, 12:39 PM
How about none of the above? Nissan Titan here. Best 1/2 ton on the market. But, if we are talking about diesels, Allison tranny with a Duramax all the way.

Ric
01-05-2008, 12:43 PM
YEEEEEEEHAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWW!!!!!

Ric
01-05-2008, 12:46 PM
I think the current results pretty much show how it is. Ford all the way!! . :noface: .

tommcat
01-05-2008, 02:39 PM
I was obligated to vote ford

TX.X-30 fan
01-05-2008, 09:41 PM
I think the current results pretty much show how it is. Ford all the way!!




Yeah and pink hats!!!! :noface: :noface: :noface: :noface:

TX.X-30 fan
01-05-2008, 09:47 PM
My next vehicle will be a lowered Chevy Dually (Duramax/Allison Combo) on total air-ride suspension. Neighbor just did the same thing to his '07 and it rides nicer than a Mercedes and pulls better than any 1 ton I have been in.




Yes lets spend 50,000 on a truck and immediately destroy it?? Leave these trucks to the professionals that need them. You Cali pansies can go lower all the 64 Impalas you like!!! :mad: 30563

Covi
01-05-2008, 09:48 PM
Dodge Ram 1500, SLT Sport, 5.7 Hemi, short box regular cab, 4x4, 20" wheel / towing package. Drives so nice.

Workin' 4 Toys
01-05-2008, 09:51 PM
I was obligated to vote ford
I should have mentioned, noone can see who voted for what...;)

Workin' 4 Toys
01-05-2008, 09:54 PM
How about none of the above?
Note to self: Next time I start a poll on this subject, include "None of the above" as an option.






Oh wait a minute, I DID NOT ADD THAT ON PURPOSE.

TX.X-30 fan
01-05-2008, 10:04 PM
[QUOTE=Workin' 4 Toys]Note to self: Next time I start a poll on this subject, include "None of the above" as an option.







What do you mean you covered all the trucks I have ever heard of???? :confused:

Workin' 4 Toys
01-05-2008, 10:07 PM
What do you mean you covered all the trucks I have ever heard of???? :confused:
I'm glad I met your expectations.

Slinkyredfoot
01-05-2008, 10:26 PM
I am buying a new Ford F150....looked at all the trucks...I don"t care what anyone says here... have a F150 with 125K miles and very few problems...I want a new boat too...

Slinkyredfoot
01-05-2008, 10:28 PM
Note to self: Next time I start a poll on this subject, include "None of the above" as an option.






Oh wait a minute, I DID NOT ADD THAT ON PURPOSE.


This seems to e a common place with our politicians as well..

Anyone like our chocices for president?.....

Workin' 4 Toys
01-05-2008, 10:32 PM
I am buying a new Ford F150... That is AWESOME. Congratulations. I look forward to seeing some pics when you get it.;)

88 PS190
01-05-2008, 11:37 PM
It is really a matter of best deal, with some exceptions. I have never been a fan of Ford trucks. Not that I dislike Ford the company, just hate Fords...

Dunno what it was that first turned me off on them. Could have been the alternator in the F150 catching fire because they incorporated all the wires into a single plug that gets nice and toasty. Might have been a Ford probe that I swapped a transmission in only to find that they used SAE and Metric fasteners, explain that one.

Of Chevy and Dodge. I have always understood Chevy fairly well, and we've had mainly Chevy trucks, suburbans, and the old chevy and GMC's.

I currently do not know what is happening to dodge, but it does not induce confidence. Local dodge dealers in the western suburbs have closed and been incorporated as small portions of other local dealers leaving vacant lots.

The status of the Daimler-Chrysler split is also slightly confusing to me. I do not know if they are fully apart or what they have going on but really it does not make me want to purchase into the dodge brand. Not knowing if there will be support locally for the brand is not a great feeling. We had a Dodge Ram 2500 which I felt the suspension was suspect the ride was harsher than trucks in its class, and despite having a large displacement and poor fuel economy it didn't have the acceleration when towing I felt it should.

rholmes
01-06-2008, 01:24 AM
Note to self: Next time I start a poll on this subject, include "None of the above" as an option.






Oh wait a minute, I DID NOT ADD THAT ON PURPOSE.


Ahhh, this was a poll on what is the best of the worst trucks available. Now I get it!:D :toast:

Monte
01-06-2008, 01:30 AM
:confused: OK.........Where in the Hell is GMC???????:confused: :rolleyes: ;)

Leroy
01-06-2008, 01:37 AM
What does 3/4 or 1 ton mean anyway? Does this relate to pulling power?

Monte
01-06-2008, 01:44 AM
What does 3/4 or 1 ton mean anyway? Does this relate to pulling power?

That is one heck of a question Leroy.:rolleyes:

TX.X-30 fan
01-06-2008, 01:04 PM
Ahhh, this was a poll on what is the best of the worst trucks available. Now I get it!:D :toast:



I think you missed something, WFT was talking about real trucks not toys?? :confused:



;)

Leroy
01-06-2008, 01:22 PM
I don't think it is that good :rolleyes: , but to answer my own question...seems the definition don't mean much anymore.

Full-size pickups in North America are sold in three size ranges - ½ Ton, ¾ Ton and 1 Ton. These size ranges originally indicated the maximum payload of the vehicle, however modern pickups can typically carry far more than that. For example, the 2006 model Ford F-150 (a "½ Ton" pickup) has a payload of between 1,400 lb and 3,060 lb, depending on configuration. Likewise, the 2006 model F-350 (a "1 Ton" pickup) has a payload of between 4,000 lb and 5,800 lb depending on configuration.


That is one heck of a question Leroy.:rolleyes:

Workin' 4 Toys
01-07-2008, 09:46 AM
Sorry, I didn't think the poll was that complicated.:o

Chevy (Chevrolet, GMC)
2500 series, 3500 series

Ford (Ford)
250 series, 350 series

Dodge (Dodge)
2500 series, 3500 series

Workin' 4 Toys
01-07-2008, 09:49 AM
:confused: OK.........Where in the Hell is GMC???????:confused: :rolleyes: ;)

Sorry, I ***umed that would have been a given.

GMC fits in with the Chevy column. Is that fair?

Ric
01-07-2008, 09:49 AM
This is a dumb thread anyway. Everyone knows you need to go with the Chevy. Everybody knows it, but some don't feel worthy when it comes time to buy. Those go with the dodge and then the ford.

Workin' 4 Toys
01-07-2008, 09:58 AM
Yes lets spend 50,000 on a truck and immediately destroy it??
While I am not going to stick up for Sodar on this. I am NOT a fan of the lowered version of these trucks. Maybe back in the 80s & 90s when it was the thing to do (along with putting glass tubes of neon lighting under them to light up the street:rolleyes: )
Back to it, I do like the Air Ride technologies systems. I like the functionality and adjustability. Although, I'd probably find myself adding a few inches of height to it with a little larger tire instead of the low rider option, but that's me.

BrianM
01-07-2008, 10:01 AM
Yes lets spend 50,000 on a truck and immediately destroy it?? Leave these trucks to the professionals that need them. You Cali pansies can go lower all the 64 Impalas you like!!! :mad: 30563

Tell us how you really feel! :cool:

Monte
01-07-2008, 10:02 AM
Sorry, I ***umed that would have been a given.

GMC fits in with the Chevy column. Is that fair?

Ha ha ha.. That is fair.. I'm just pokin at you anyway..;) :D

Workin' 4 Toys
01-07-2008, 10:02 AM
This is a dumb thread anyway.
This comment is dumb.

Workin' 4 Toys
01-07-2008, 10:03 AM
Since when can't assumed be used.....????:confused:

TMCNo1
01-07-2008, 12:28 PM
I do believe it's Winter time here on Team Talk!

Ric
01-07-2008, 12:32 PM
This comment is dumb. For the record, I bought a Westers custom tune for my 05 6.0 Gasser and after 5 reprograms, I told them they could have it back......... anybody have any luck with these gas tuners?

Ric
01-07-2008, 12:34 PM
While I am not going to stick up for Sodar on this. I am NOT a fan of the lowered version of these trucks. Maybe back in the 80s & 90s when it was the thing to do (along with putting glass tubes of neon lighting under them to light up the street:rolleyes: )
Back to it, I do like the Air Ride technologies systems. I like the functionality and adjustability. Although, I'd probably find myself adding a few inches of height to it with a little larger tire instead of the low rider option, but that's me. I've wondered if the lowered bunch is behind the times since we did that 20 years ago, or if I'm just gettin too damn old.....

Sodar
01-07-2008, 01:03 PM
While I am not going to stick up for Sodar on this. I am NOT a fan of the lowered version of these trucks. Maybe back in the 80s & 90s when it was the thing to do (along with putting glass tubes of neon lighting under them to light up the street:rolleyes: )
Back to it, I do like the Air Ride technologies systems. I like the functionality and adjustability. Although, I'd probably find myself adding a few inches of height to it with a little larger tire instead of the low rider option, but that's me.

I am not talking slamming the thing and C-notching the frame or anything. When I do mine, I am going to do something like this. Just enough to give it a custom, clean look to it, but still be functional. I do not want it to look like something that rolled out of East Los Angeles, with gold, 100 spoke Daytons!!

I want to do something like this on 20" Alcoas and a crew cab, rather than an extended. The 24's are TOO much!

http://www.chromewheel.com/images/jp2.jpg

http://www.chromewheel.com/images/jp4.jpg

Sodar
01-07-2008, 01:05 PM
Yes lets spend 50,000 on a truck and immediately destroy it?? Leave these trucks to the professionals that need them. You Cali pansies can go lower all the 64 Impalas you like!!! :mad: 30563




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Lick me!

Ric
01-07-2008, 01:38 PM
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Lick me! woah that's gay

Ric
01-07-2008, 01:39 PM
I think the current results pretty much show how it is. Ford all the way!! puhleasse :rolleyes:

Workin' 4 Toys
01-07-2008, 02:02 PM
For the record, I bought a Westers custom tune for my 05 6.0 Gasser and after 5 reprograms, I told them they could have it back......... anybody have any luck with these gas tuners?
Last I heard, Beau liked the tuner he had done for his GMC. (I don't think he has the 6.0 though)

Workin' 4 Toys
01-07-2008, 02:08 PM
I am not talking slamming the thing and C-notching the frame or anything. When I do mine, I am going to do something like this. Just enough to give it a custom, clean look to it, but still be functional. I do not want it to look like something that rolled out of East Los Angeles, with gold, 100 spoke Daytons!!

I want to do something like this on 20" Alcoas and a crew cab, rather than an extended. The 24's are TOO much!
Believe me when I say I've seen 'em.
The Air Ride touring trucks have the systems. I have seen them a few times at shows, hauling fully loaded 50' trailers also I might add. And yes, for some reason at the shows they always seem to "drop" them. I'd rather have to get some steps to get in, but thats me.
I've also seen guys are into "scraping" the road with the frames to give a spark show. Not something I'd do either (on purpose).

If you do this, we will certainly need some pictures.

Workin' 4 Toys
01-07-2008, 02:16 PM
I've wondered if the lowered bunch is behind the times since we did that 20 years ago, or if I'm just gettin too damn old.....
You ever had than the chance to see some 70s and 80s cars with some "DUBs" or "DONKs" on them? I can't say I've seen that back in the 80s..:rolleyes:

Speaking of bringing back the 80s....
I do think Sodar should cut the roof off his dually and make a convertible out of it. That might not have been done to a 2008 yet.

TX.X-30 fan
01-07-2008, 02:28 PM
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Lick me!




UUUUUUUUUUUH NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ric
01-07-2008, 02:33 PM
You ever had than the chance to see some 70s and 80s cars with some "DUBs" or "DONKs" on them? I can't say I've seen that back in the 80s..:rolleyes:

Speaking of bringing back the 80s....
I do think Sodar should cut the roof off his dually and make a convertible out of it. That might not have been done to a 2008 yet. That is just about the ONLY difference..
back then the trick of the lowered street rods was to section fender panels downward and rework them so that, at first glance, they appeared factory, but a longer look would reveal the illusion that the wheels were larger and the vehicle was "lower" than it really was.

Mikey
01-07-2008, 02:40 PM
You ever had than the chance to see some 70s and 80s cars with some "DUBs" or "DONKs" on them? I

I think I know what "DUBS" are but what in the heck are "DONKS"?:confused:

stuartmcnair
01-07-2008, 03:15 PM
I agree about putting in an air-ride suspension. They make the vehicle drive and pull MUCH better. I have it in my Expedition and it makes all the difference in the world.

TMCNo1
01-07-2008, 03:37 PM
I think I know what "DUBS" are but what in the heck are "DONKS"?:confused:

Southeastern Dubs, they changed the name to represent!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donk_(automobile)
http://www.cardomain.com/features/donks

Around here, they are painting the cars up like popular candy bars with the lettering and all, just like a candy bar wrapper, even as far as getting decal wraps like on trucks, busses, boats and race cars.

Ryan
01-07-2008, 03:52 PM
I picked Chevy, but it's on the condition that that bigger tires are swapped in over the little ones the 2500 and 3500 come with.

Mikey
01-07-2008, 03:53 PM
Southeastern Dubs, they changed the name to represent!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donk_(automobile)
http://www.cardomain.com/features/donks

Around here, they are painting the cars up like popular candy bars with the lettering and all, just like a candy bar wrapper, even as far as getting decal wraps like on trucks, busses, boats and race cars.

OMG:eek3: One word to describe those cars. FUGLY! Excuse me while I go throw up now.:(

Workin' 4 Toys
01-07-2008, 03:54 PM
I think I know what "DUBS" are but what in the heck are "DONKS"?:confused:
I do NOT know for sure. This is how I understand it went.
The term DUB was born for this theme with big wheels around 20"+ I am not certain if the name came first or the company that is known as DUB...Either way, it is what it is. I believe it had something to do with the diameter.

The "DONK" is understood to be a MUCH larger wheel in or near the 30" diameter range and requires a substantial amount of chassis modification to the cars. It has been said the term came from most of the cars being Impalas for this type of demonstration. And the Hood ornament looks like a Donkey. And I hear that is where the designation comes from.

I could be wrong on ALL of this. It's a matter of interpretation I suppose. Sort of like the spinner wheels. Originally noted as "Sprewells". As I understand it after an NBA player. I do not know for sure.
Perhaps like the internet might have been called Algore instead since he invented...I do not know.

Mikey
01-07-2008, 03:57 PM
Perhaps like the internet might have been called Algore instead since he invented...I do not know.

:uglyhamme :uglyhamme :uglyhamme

Workin' 4 Toys
01-07-2008, 04:01 PM
I agree about putting in an air-ride suspension. They make the vehicle drive and pull MUCH better. I have it in my Expedition and it makes all the difference in the world.
Do you have air assist bags, or the full Air bag suspension?

Workin' 4 Toys
01-07-2008, 04:03 PM
January 7, 2008

109 votes :cool: (so far)

Leroy
01-07-2008, 04:05 PM
I voted for all three so not quite that many votes :)

January 7, 2008

109 votes :cool: (so far)

Workin' 4 Toys
01-07-2008, 04:13 PM
EDIT: It says 109 VOTERS. Not votes... I'm not sure how that is relevant anyway.

EDIT/EDIT: 110 VOTERS Now

rholmes
01-07-2008, 08:44 PM
I Vote for the ABD brand... anything but domestic. I love to kick the ole hornet nest once in a while!! :)

Workin' 4 Toys
01-07-2008, 11:10 PM
I Vote for the ABD brand... anything but domestic. I love to kick the ole hornet nest once in a while!! :)
Cute. Reeeal cute.

Slinkyredfoot
01-07-2008, 11:24 PM
Man I really need to trade the old 03 with 125,000 miles..
I have been looking religiously, and just like the look and stance of the Ford FX4...
Driven them all and just like the 150....new? used? I am so so confused, but this is easy for me....Anyone like to chime in, hit me upside the head and say "Keep what ya got dummy?"

Just wondering.......

Workin' 4 Toys
01-07-2008, 11:31 PM
One of the guys just bought the F150 extended cab. Loves it. I thought for sure he was going with the crew, but he stuck with the ext.
FWIW- He came out of the explorer with a ton of Miles on it. It's still around too, he just lets someone else drive that now.

Send the dealer an email asking what their best price is, send a similar message to another dealer and compare. Try to describe the options you want first so you get a fair comparison. Then, go do it.

Workin' 4 Toys
01-07-2008, 11:31 PM
What color are you looking at?

justinglow
01-08-2008, 12:14 AM
I had two Silverado's before I bought my new f-150 in November. I am so glad I went with the Ford. I bought the Lariat Crew Cab. I drove the new Silverado. I wasn't impressed with it. I am not married to either brand but after driving them both the Ford was the better one. Not to mention 0% for 66 months.

tommcat
01-08-2008, 08:35 AM
One of the guys just bought the F150 extended cab. Loves it. I thought for sure he was going with the crew, but he stuck with the ext.
FWIW- He came out of the explorer with a ton of Miles on it. It's still around too, he just lets someone else drive that now.

Send the dealer an email asking what their best price is, send a similar message to another dealer and compare. Try to describe the options you want first so you get a fair comparison. Then, go do it.they are turning out to be good trucks. way underpowered but a great ride and decent reliability(for ford)

Slinkyredfoot
01-08-2008, 09:04 AM
What color are you looking at?

Silver 2 tone FX4 with the 20" wheels....I have had a red and silver Lariat for 5 years, but you can only get new Lariat's with light tan leather interior, looks okay but not practical for my work....

Ric
01-08-2008, 09:33 AM
I Vote for the ABD brand... anything but domestic. I love to kick the ole hornet nest once in a while!! :) you are an outlaw holmes. I'm keeping an eye on you:cool:

Ric
01-08-2008, 09:36 AM
I had two Silverado's before I bought my new f-150 in November. I am so glad I went with the Ford. I bought the Lariat Crew Cab. I drove the new Silverado. I wasn't impressed with it. I am not married to either brand but after driving them both the Ford was the better one. Not to mention 0% for 66 months. way to go chevy :mad: this is what you get when you put a 5.3L combined with a 3.42 gearing... they drive you and then they go buy a f'd

Workin' 4 Toys
01-08-2008, 04:35 PM
Silver 2 tone FX4 with the 20" wheels....I have had a red and silver Lariat for 5 years, but you can only get new Lariat's with light tan leather interior, looks okay but not practical for my work....

Silver meaning light silver on top, and darker on the bottom, something like a charcoal gray?

justinglow
01-08-2008, 05:00 PM
If you get a new Lariat with what they call the "Chrome Package" you can get grey or black leather now. You also don't get the tan two tone color when you go that route. I just got a red one with the factory 20"s I love it!!

pq2
01-08-2008, 05:40 PM
Silver 2 tone FX4 with the 20" wheels....I have had a red and silver Lariat for 5 years, but you can only get new Lariat's with light tan leather interior, looks okay but not practical for my work....

I think you are looking for what I just got, will post pics later

BrianM
01-08-2008, 05:46 PM
Man I really need to trade the old 03 with 125,000 miles..
I have been looking religiously, and just like the look and stance of the Ford FX4...
Driven them all and just like the 150....new? used? I am so so confused, but this is easy for me....Anyone like to chime in, hit me upside the head and say "Keep what ya got dummy?"

Just wondering.......
Keep in mind that the F150 is getting a redesign for '09. Should be out sometime in August. If it matters to you you will have a few month old OLD bodystyle truck. Kinda really blows the resale in a few years.

http://jalopnik.com/cars/detroit-auto-show/2009-ford-f+150-uncovered-324803.php
(http://www.leftlanenews.com/ford-f-150-future.html)

Workin' 4 Toys
01-08-2008, 06:05 PM
I know it's a long shot, and has been talked about for a long time for the F150..I hope they put a diesel in it.

On the same note:
And the Silverado....And the Suburban..... and the Yukon....

Sodar
01-08-2008, 06:14 PM
I know it's a long shot, and has been talked about for a long time for the F150..I hope they put a diesel in it.

On the same note:
And the Silverado....And the Suburban..... and the Yukon....

A diesel Suburban would give me great joy! Hopefully it is coming soon!

Workin' 4 Toys
01-08-2008, 06:19 PM
A diesel Suburban would give me great joy! Hopefully it is coming soon!
Don't tell me you would slam that too? Or would you just park it next to the slammed Dually?

Sodar
01-08-2008, 06:43 PM
Don't tell me you would slam that too? Or would you just park it next to the slammed Dually?

If I got a diesel suburban, I would not do a thing to it. Perhaps, just throw some bigger BF Goodrich All-Terrains and a leveling kit on it.

Just a little reasoning behind the lowered dually. Growing up and going out to the river as a kid, I would always see this tricked out duallies pulling flatbottom race boats, with big, bad blower motors. I always said as a kid that when I got older, I would build a flatbottom and buy/lower a dually. Which is why the "80's/90's comment was so great! That was my childhood!

So, my dually project is more of a dream that anything else. When I said "A lowered dually will be my next vehicle", I meant it sarcastically. Between purchasing my MC and trying to buy a house, I have a feeling that I will be driving my Tahoe for MANY years to come!! :D

Slinkyredfoot
01-08-2008, 07:19 PM
Keep in mind that the F150 is getting a redesign for '09. Should be out sometime in August. If it matters to you you will have a few month old OLD bodystyle truck. Kinda really blows the resale in a few years.

http://jalopnik.com/cars/detroit-auto-show/2009-ford-f+150-uncovered-324803.php
(http://www.leftlanenews.com/ford-f-150-future.html)


Man thanks this is great knowledge and just confuses the process even further. I have an 03 Lariat that has been a great truck, still get compliments on it a lot. I am perplexed by Ford's colors, althought I really like the optional 20" rims. I truly feel Ford really could do a lot better on making the wheel choices much cooler.

So what to do now??? Buying a new truck is such a b..ch. I know what I really want and what appeals to me but it is not made. Maybe Ford ought to hire me in the design department and maybe this is why their car sales are so flat...not to mention when will they come out with better rebates than the $2500 they have on 08 trucks or buy an 07 that I found with a $4500 rebate..

I would love to pop for an Avalanche like you own because I think they look great, but not really pratical really for my work.

I bought the 03 right before the model change in 04 and still think my 03 is cooler looking than the newer ones....:confused: :confused:

tommcat
01-09-2008, 10:06 AM
I know it's a long shot, and has been talked about for a long time for the F150..I hope they put a diesel in it.


dont hold your breath for it

Workin' 4 Toys
01-09-2008, 10:57 AM
Alright, I won't. Correct me if I am wrong here. But isn't there already a 4.?, 6 cylinder Navistar engine in SOME form of Ford truck now?
At this moment, I don't recall the displacement exactly.

tommcat
01-09-2008, 11:06 AM
Alright, I won't. Correct me if I am wrong here. But isn't there already a 4.?, 6 cylinder Navistar engine in SOME form of Ford truck now?
At this moment, I don't recall the displacement exactly.
It was designed and built, i believe they were even ready to ship out but ford backed out on the deal. we even had service manuals and some special tools shipped for them but then something happened and they changed their minds. i think the 6.0 fiasco changed their focus to trying to get the large diesels to run right and that put the little diesels on the shelf.

i would love to see it come out in the f-150 and expedition. it could be a nice package with some good torque and excellent fuel mileage for those who dont need the superduty and 6.4(and most owners dont need them)

although they cant seem to get the full size diesels to get good fuel mileage so i dont know that they could manage any better with the little one.

Workin' 4 Toys
01-09-2008, 11:11 AM
FWIW- I've seen one with those badges on the sides on the road here. I wish I would have taken a picture so I could remember.:o
I am 99% sure it was a 4.? something it MAY have even said Powerstroke or Navistar.

tommcat
01-09-2008, 11:12 AM
I think it was a 4.2 and it was supposed to be called a powerstroke.
i'm sure there are some test vehicles out there with one in them.

Workin' 4 Toys
01-09-2008, 11:14 AM
It was about a month ago.
Now you have peaked my curiosity. I'm going to see if I can find something out. I am pretty sure it had IL plates on it. If it did, and it's from around here. I can find it. ;)

Jim@BAWS
01-09-2008, 11:40 AM
A Japanese company ( Toyota ) and an American company (Ford) decided to have a canoe race on the Missouri River Both teams practiced long and hard to reach their peak performance before the race.

On the big day, the Japanese won by a mile.

The Americans, very discouraged and depressed, decided to investigate the reason for the crushing defeat. A management team made up of senior management was formed to investigate and recommend appropriate action.

Their conclusion was the Japanese had 8 people rowing and 1 person steering, while the American team had 8 people steering and 1 person rowing.

Feeling a deeper study was in order, American management hired a consulting company and paid them a large amount of money for a second opinion.

They advised, of course, that too many people were steering the boat, while not enough people were rowing.

Not sure of how to utilize that information, but wanting to prevent another loss to the Japanese, the rowing team's management structure was totally reorganized to 4 steering supervisors, 3 area steering superintendents and 1 assistant superintendent steering manager.

They also implemented a new performance system that would give the 1 person rowing the boat greater incentive to work harder. It was called the 'Rowing Team Quality First Program,' with meetings, dinners and free pens for the rower. There was discussion of getting new paddles, canoes and other equipment, extra vacation days for practices and bonuses.

The next year the Japanese won by two miles.

Humiliated, the American management laid off the rower for poor performance, halted development of a new canoe, sold the paddles, and canceled all capital investments for new equipment. The money saved was distributed to the Senior Executives as bonuses and the next year's racing team was out-sourced to India .

Sadly, The End.

Here's something else to think about: Ford has spent the last thirty years moving all its factories out of the US , claiming they can't make money paying American wages.

TOYOTA has spent the last thirty years building more than a dozen plants inside the US The last quarter's results:

TOYOTA makes 4 billion in profits while Ford racked up 9 billion in losses.

Ford folks are still scratching their heads.

IF THIS WEREN'T SO TRUE IT MIGHT BE FUNNY!!!

tommcat
01-09-2008, 01:06 PM
jim, thats pretty accurate. at least from my end of the business

6ballsisall
01-09-2008, 11:35 PM
A Japanese company ( Toyota ) and an American company (Ford) decided to have a canoe race on the Missouri River Both teams practiced long and hard to reach their peak performance before the race.

On the big day, the Japanese won by a mile.

The Americans, very discouraged and depressed, decided to investigate the reason for the crushing defeat. A management team made up of senior management was formed to investigate and recommend appropriate action.

Their conclusion was the Japanese had 8 people rowing and 1 person steering, while the American team had 8 people steering and 1 person rowing.

Feeling a deeper study was in order, American management hired a consulting company and paid them a large amount of money for a second opinion.

They advised, of course, that too many people were steering the boat, while not enough people were rowing.

Not sure of how to utilize that information, but wanting to prevent another loss to the Japanese, the rowing team's management structure was totally reorganized to 4 steering supervisors, 3 area steering superintendents and 1 assistant superintendent steering manager.

They also implemented a new performance system that would give the 1 person rowing the boat greater incentive to work harder. It was called the 'Rowing Team Quality First Program,' with meetings, dinners and free pens for the rower. There was discussion of getting new paddles, canoes and other equipment, extra vacation days for practices and bonuses.

The next year the Japanese won by two miles.

Humiliated, the American management laid off the rower for poor performance, halted development of a new canoe, sold the paddles, and canceled all capital investments for new equipment. The money saved was distributed to the Senior Executives as bonuses and the next year's racing team was out-sourced to India .

Sadly, The End.

Here's something else to think about: Ford has spent the last thirty years moving all its factories out of the US , claiming they can't make money paying American wages.

TOYOTA has spent the last thirty years building more than a dozen plants inside the US The last quarter's results:

TOYOTA makes 4 billion in profits while Ford racked up 9 billion in losses.

Ford folks are still scratching their heads.

IF THIS WEREN'T SO TRUE IT MIGHT BE FUNNY!!!

Aint this the truth............it's the american business way!! :rolleyes: