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12-25-2007, 05:26 PM
Hello all you lucky Mastercraft owners. I have a couple questions. First let me give a brief history. I grew up in upstate NY on a lake. I waterskied all my youth. When I started my own family I never had a desire to own a boat. Last year I bought a bass boat to use fishing. My family and I fell in love with boating. We are one hour away from a few lakes and we brought it with us on all of our camping trips. We quiclky found out that a bass boat is just what it is...a fishing boat. Uncomfortable for a family and not good for skiing. I sold it over the winter. I still have a 14' fishing boat. Ok, this is getting long. I have a chance to buy locally an immaculant 1986 Mastercraft 19 Tournament Ski. It is powered by a Ford 302/270hp inboard. $4500 including the trailor. I plan on skiing and teaching my two sons. Is this a good price? Is this a good family boat or really too ski specific? Any reasons not to buy it. It does not have a rear seat which may be a deal breaker. Our budget is $4000 and we will have to exceed it to buy this boat. Thanks in advance for helping us make this decision. Happy Holidays.
12-25-2007, 05:37 PM
First, welcome to the board. 4500 doesnt sound too bad depending on the condition of it. If its just a rear seat thats missing and the rest of the boat is in good shape than I dont think it would be a big deal to find a seat or make one. What is your primary use for this boat? (skiing, wakeboarding, etc.) How many members of your family will be in the boat? Give a few more details and people should be able to help you out with better answers.
12-25-2007, 05:46 PM
If its immaculate thats a good price. Post some pics or a link to the boat. I had a 86' w/o the rear seat at one point.
12-25-2007, 06:17 PM
Welcome!! Pics, Pics, Pics!!
Sounds good though. If the hull is good then (obviously) the next most important thing is the engine. Get it checked out, Compression test etc.
east tx skier
12-25-2007, 06:28 PM
Are you sue it's not a 351.
Compression test? Really, Rod? 8p
12-25-2007, 07:13 PM
Not everyone is as smart (a$$ed) as you Doug!!!;) :cool:
12-25-2007, 08:11 PM
It doesn't have a 302 @ 270 HP, unless it's souped.
The 86 is a good boat at that price. Check your engine to be more like a 351 c.i. at 250 HP.
12-25-2007, 08:12 PM
Are you sue it's not a 351.
Compression test? Really, Rod? 8p
I agree with Doug, should be a 351/240hp or someone has done a (270hp) el cheapo engine swap somewhere.
12-25-2007, 08:13 PM
Not the most family friendly boat, but good for skiing. Will be hard to get a family friendly boat for $4k.
12-25-2007, 08:51 PM
a key factor is how many hours on the engine, but even then it really matters of how well it was maintained. I bought a 87 for $5k but it had some dings in it and 1200 hours. try to get it for $4k. it is offseason so maybe you can deal a little. Where are you in NY? I grew up on Honeoye Lake south of Rochester and we go up there every summer.
12-26-2007, 09:08 AM
I was going to ask the same thing, where in NY are you located? The definition of upstate is always a matter of perspective. If you're from the city, Monticello is upstate. I'm from Syracuse, I'll go with central NY on that one.
Anyway, I digress. I don't think that $4500 is too bad a price, but like everyone said, check the amount of hours, double check that engine to see if it is a 302 or 351, check the trailer too. Best of luck with it. Keep us posted!
12-26-2007, 06:03 PM
Thanks for all of your help. I live outside of Binghamton NY. I grew up on the Great Sacandaga lake in the Adirondack Mountains. I lost the chance to buy that boat. I waited too long and it just sold today. So now I am back looking for a boat. I really do want an older Mastercraft. I am just drawn to them for some reason. We are less than an hour from Treman Marine State park in Ithaca. That is were we go on the weekends. We also camp 4 or 5 times a year on different lakes with boat launches. Keuka, Indian, Raquette are some of our favorites. I have around $4k to spend. I might have more to spend if my Harley sells. Again, thanks for your help. I will be back for more help soon. I do have someone from PA that has a "Stars and Stripes" model that I am talking to this comming weekend. I don't have any info yet except he is asking $4900 and stated that he needs to sell and will work on the price.
12-26-2007, 06:56 PM
I have a friend here in NJ with a '78 stars & stripes for sale, here's some of the info
PM me for his contact number, I know he wants to sell it soon.
Luker, I own A 1986 Skier 19' I'd love to see some pics to see the condition. I agree the engine should be a 351. Not the 302 like you mention. Anyway. Let's talk!
Luker I live just outside Bulington VT. I will keep my eyes open. How far are you willing to travel for this boat?
12-26-2007, 07:12 PM
Here is a link to the boat I almost bought: http://www.katebags.com/140182999062/g/2611Mastercraft.htm
I could of bought it for $4500.
Are you selling your 1986? I could meet you half way. Does it have a rear seat?
12-26-2007, 08:11 PM
Luker I live just outside Bulington VT.
I once lived in Killington, '80-'81 worked on the mountain ....
froooooooooze my arrs off - never again.:rolleyes:
Luker I've seen that boat for sale. My opinion you should be happy someone else bought it. Also I feel bad for the sucker, that did! Check out all the 86' vintage boats posted on TT. You'll find a ton of originals. Including my own. Dude, you lucked out today!
I'm sure the wobbly barn and pickle barrel were around.
12-27-2007, 03:04 AM
Luker, welcome aboard!! Thats quite a hybrid '86. If you look at Covi's, that is as an 1986 MC should appear. As far as the motor, a 302 is odd for this year. Its a Florida boat, so she may be a saltwater boat as well. Just as a comparison, I paid $7200 in 2004 for an all original, but clean 83 MC. I have put an extra 3k into it over the last few years, but stay as original as you can. I will keep an eye out for you in Central Fla...best wishes in your search.
Luker, I think this is a great place to look onlyinboards.com