Gel Coat?

[6ballsisall]

Somewhere sometime ago I remember someone posted the part numbers for Gelcoat kits from MC. I am in need of the part # for an 86 Mastercraft, need white gel coat. Could someone lead me in the right direction or post those part numbers please?

Also, I am going to attempt this on my own (the stern of the boat) any tips for someone who has never done this before?

Thanks!

[Mag_Red]

:woohoo: Let me know when you are going to start this Jeff. This time I might even stay for diner :D

[6ballsisall]

:woohoo: Let me know when you are going to start this Jeff. This time I might even stay for diner :D


you got yourself a deal!!! :cool:

[André]

Jeff
How bad is your gel right now ?

[Mag_Red]

Jeff
How bad is your gel right now ?Until he steps back in here I will say it just looks yellowy........not so much faded....but yellow looking.

[André]

Me think Re-gel is a hell of a job...

[tph]

Somewhere sometime ago I remember someone posted the part numbers for Gelcoat kits from MC. I am in need of the part # for an 86 Mastercraft, need white gel coat. Could someone lead me in the right direction or post those part numbers please?

Also, I am going to attempt this on my own (the stern of the boat) any tips for someone who has never done this before?

Thanks!

Here is the chart from Spectrum Color:

The following table displays the gelcoats used by MasterCraft and their corresponding part number. You can order the getcoats from Spectrum Color.

www.spectrumcolor.com
phone: 800.754.5516
fax: 800.253.1366


Year Used Color Name Spectrum Part Number OEM Part Number Coating Part Number
2003 Lime Green 3992 861475 953-GH-139
2003 Safari Bronze 3991 861474 953-NH-221
2003 Iris Purple 3990 861473 953-PH-035
2003 Mediterranean Blue 3989 861472 953-LH-189
2002 Emerald Green 3988 862471 953-GH-047
2001-2003 Sunrise Yellow 3987 862461 953-YH-092
2001-2003 Viper Red 3986 862451 953-RA-744
2000-2002 Ivory 3984 862400 953-WA-776
1999-2003 Blue Swirl/Monterey 3973 862269 953-LA-636
1999 Danube Regatta Teal 3974 862219 953-GA-731
1998-2003 Marble 3947 862238 953-AA-467
1998-2002 Cabernet 3956 862318 953-MA-155
1998-2000 Rodeo Red (Rev. 1) 3949 862298 953-RA-510
1998-1999 Too Blue 3950 862268 953-LA-528
1998-1999 Pearl 3946 862228 953-NA-494
1998-1999 Cafe 3944 862208 953-NA-493
1998-1999 DK Gray Coal 3975 862328 953-AA-555
1998-1999 Signal Blue (Rev. 1) 3951 862308 953-LA-620
1998-1999 Blueberry 3945 862218 953-LA-527
1998 Royal Amethyst 3948 862248 953-PA-159
1998 Porcelain 3976 862278 953-AA-469
1997-2003 Midnite Black 3955 862017 953-BJ-055
1997-2001 Polo Green 3954 862307 952-GA-462
1997-1998 Grey Dawn 3970 862367 952-AA-392
1997 Signal Blue (Old) 3985 862288 952-LA-578
1997 DK Violet 3972 862337 952-PA-112
1996-2002 Skip Jack/Regal Red 3918 862165 952-RA-175
1996-1998 New Teal 3933 862216 952-GA-313
1996-1997 Kiwi Green 3942 862306 952-GA-347
1996-1997 Royal Purple 3941 862276 952-LA-351
1996-1997 Lemon Yellow 3940 862286 952-YA-203
1996-1997 Nite Navy 3937 862246 952-LA-322
1996-1997 Mulberry 3936 862206 952-MA-097
1996-1997 Rueben 3935 862266 952-RA-299
1996-1997 Mountain Rock 3932 862236 952-NA-335
1996-1997 Buttercream/Camel 3931 862226 952-NA-337
1995 Black 3906 862014 942-BJ-045
1995 Med Blue 3967 862190 952-LA-249
1995 Port Wine 3966 862185 952-RA-230
1994-1998 Stone 3926 862150 952-AA-202
1994-1997 Wet Jet White 3939 862191 952-WJ-121
1994-1997 Oyster 3930 862145 952-IA-101
1994-1997 Wet Jet Black 3968 862192 952-BJ-031
1994-1995 Wet Jet Purple 3943 862140 952-PA-037
1994-1995 DK Violet 3922 862180 952-PA-029
1994-1995 DK Blue 3920 862160 952-LA-183
1994-1995 DK Teal 3919 862175 952-GA-159
1994 Hot Pink 3965 862170 952-RA-174
1994 Pro Blue 3927 862155 952-LA-182
1993 Blue Atlantic 3959 862043 952-LA-095
1993 Deep Sea Teal 3958 862032 952-GA-068
1992-1996 Med. Grey 3962 862057 952-AL-009
1992-1994 LT Charcoal 3961 862056 952-AL-69
1992-1993 Magenta 3923 862053 952-PL-001
1991 Cayman Blue 3913 862042 943-LL-51
1990-1993 Flagship Blue 3911 862041 943-LL-41
1990-1993 Emerald 3910 862031 942-GD-68
1990-1993 Grey Dawn 3904 862016 952-AL-017
1990-1992 Lacquer Red 3909 862026 943-RL-288
1990 Coral 3912 862052 943-RL-03
1990 Sunshine Yellow 3908 862006 943-YD-58
1990 Black 3978 862011 N/A
1989 Med. Grey 3903 862055 952-A-183
1989 Mauve 3960 862051 952-MD-15
1989 Black Gold 3979 862012 N/A
1988-1989 Teal 3916 862030 943-GD-33
1988-1989 DK Grey 3914 862035 943-AD-62
1988-1989 Red 3957 862025 952-RL-048
1987-1990 DK Blue 3900 862040 943-LD-65
1987-1990 DK Red 3964 862090 943-RD-38
1986-2003 Glacier White 3902 862005 952-WA-40
1986-1989 Beige 3905 862020 943-N-679
1985 Blue 3963 862085 943-LF-285
1984-2002 Clear 3907 862045 CG-22-0014
1984-1989 Black 3977 862010 N/A
1984-1989 LT Grey 3971 862015 943-A-580
1984-1985 Chocolate Brown 3929 862065 952-N-414
1982-1983 Grey 3981 862328 N/A
1982-1983 LT Blue 3980 862070 N/A
1982 Yellow Gold 3982 862060 N/A
1979-1999 U.T. Orange 3969 862347 953-YL-044
1979-1983 Sand 3915 862075 952-NA-430

[Mag_Red]

:eek: This place is amazing!!!!!!!!

[ChrisG]

talk about the Information Super Highway...

[6ballsisall]

Heres a pic of what I am talking about. I am almost wondering if maybe the prior owner had some gel coat problems on tbe back of the boat and maybe painted it instead of gelcoating. The whole stern and back edges like pictured arent's smooth. This is a spot I wetsanded with 320 grit paper today. With very little pressure or work whatver the white stuff on there was it just oozed off very easy. What do you all think?

[Mag_Red]

I think you need to keep sanding. :popcorn:

[6ballsisall]

Nah, I was saving the rest for you to do :D

I figure there is quite a bit left to do, I just started a little spot as I was ready to call it a day to see what it was like.
When do I know I am thru all the gel coat and down to the bare fiberglass?

Spectrum colors has a good tutorial for applying gel coat. It doesn't sound to bad.

http://www.spectrumcolor.com/technicalinfo.htm

[Mag_Red]

Nah, I was saving the rest for you to do :D

I figure there is quite a bit left to do, I just started a little spot as I was ready to call it a day to see what it was like.
When do I know I am thru all the gel coat and down to the bare fiberglass? when you see the matting

Spectrum colors has a good tutorial for applying gel coat. It doesn't sound to bad.

http://www.spectrumcolor.com/technicalinfo.htm I was reading their on-line manuals. Lots of good info on that page. Maybe all the boat needs is a fine wet sanding and a good buffing. :twocents:
But I really don't know what I'm talking about, but if the white started coming thru after a little sanding.................

[MarkP]

Nah, I was saving the rest for you to do :D

I figure there is quite a bit left to do, I just started a little spot as I was ready to call it a day to see what it was like.
When do I know I am thru all the gel coat and down to the bare fiberglass?

Spectrum colors has a good tutorial for applying gel coat. It doesn't sound to bad.

http://www.spectrumcolor.com/technicalinfo.htm
You are going to go for the quart of the liquid gel. Not the paste repair kit??

[6ballsisall]

You are going to go for the quart of the liquid gel. Not the paste repair kit??




Yep! :steering:

[ski_king]

1982 Yellow Gold 3982 862060 N/A
Oh no, mines not available...I guess no big suprise.

[6ballsisall]

Just ordered a quart of the gel coat and a gallon of the Buffing compound. Gonna spit shine this ole thing!! :dance:
Hey Mag, what you got going on not this weekend but next weekend? I doubt it will be here this weekend.

[MasterMason]

Just ordered a quart of the gel coat and a gallon of the Buffing compound. Gonna spit shine this ole thing!! :dance:
Hey Mag, what you got going on not this weekend but next weekend? I doubt it will be here this weekend.


Wow, Your going put mag to work on easter weekend? your a slave driver

[6ballsisall]

:D Oops, forgot!! Ok maybe not. Well...........

[André]

Now ,what's punishment for that ?
I think it's throwing rocks at you or something similar...

[BrianM]

When do I know I am thru all the gel coat and down to the bare fiberglass?

From what my gel guy said they spray the gel color followed by a layer of black gel and then the fiberglass. When he was sanding out a couple of scratches in mine he said that if they were to deep that the black would show through. I don't know that you need to sand the gel all the way off though. I think you just need to sand it down a bit so the new gel stcks. Kind of like paint.

[Scot]

I have the same yellowing problem with my White 86 prostar.... Before you try grinding, sanding, buffing your @#$ off. You might want to try this stuff called Iron Out... or sometimes call Rust Out.... You can get it at ACE.... I use the powder type that you mix with water.... Mix about 1/3 cup of Iron Out with about 1 cup of water.... Wipe in on the yellow with a sponge and watch it disappear before your eyes... (I guess the yellowing is caused by minerals penetraing the finish... I've tried every fiberglass cleaner, stain remover, polish... you name it... nothing getst the yellow out but this.... and it works with NO effort and has not damaged the finish in over fiver years os use...

[6ballsisall]

Scot, thanks for the advice!! Will try that on the yellow areas!

Update:

Laid the gelcoat on the stern today. Painting on Gel coat really is not that bad, you gotta work quick though, you only have about 15 minutes per batch!!

The crappy part is the sanding, that has to be the messiest stuff I have ever messed with! Thank god for power sanders! Tommorrow I wet sand with 600 grit and then 1000 grit buffing compound. Hope it shines good!!

I am a little concerned that I will be able to blend in the new white with the older white. Thats' where I am hoping this Iron Out stuff works!

[brianaw26]

I’m brining this back from the dead. How did the gel-coating go? I’m about to do this on my 81 and I’m a little hesitant

[milkmania]

resurrected again:headbang:

I'm wanting to paint my 88 K-5 Blazer the same color as the 91 Prostar 190

the blazer is already Red & White (needing painted....member the black primer they used in 88:confused::rolleyes: , but I was looking at the colors for the 91 MC and it shows " 1990-1992 Lacquer Red 3909 862026 943-RL-288"

how do I cross this over into automotive colors?
just have it custom mixed from a color chip?
does Spectrum color just deal in gel coat?

and yet another dumb question....
what color is the white gel coat used by MC in 91?

[6ballsisall]

resurrected again:headbang:

I'm wanting to paint my 88 K-5 Blazer the same color as the 91 Prostar 190

the blazer is already Red & White (needing painted....member the black primer they used in 88:confused::rolleyes: , but I was looking at the colors for the 91 MC and it shows " 1990-1992 Lacquer Red 3909 862026 943-RL-288"

how do I cross this over into automotive colors?
just have it custom mixed from a color chip?
does Spectrum color just deal in gel coat?

and yet another dumb question....
what color is the white gel coat used by MC in 91?

Sounds like a great Jeremy question! ;)

[Kell]

Not to thread jack this discussion, but while on vacation a couple weeks ago, we picked up a deep scratch on the hull (rear passenger qtr panel) about 2.5" in length and 1-2 mls deep 3/32 in width. I called Spectrumcolor.com and ordered the patch past repair for my model and year. To my surprize, it arrived the next day (Seattle to Spokane, Wash). Now let me say that I have absolutely no gel-coat repair experience whatsoever. However, I have been following threads like this as well as additional resources I've found on the web. Gave it a "try" thinking to myself, "if I screw it up, off to a professional the boat goes". My wife says I'm too much of a perfectionist, but little scratches like this will haunt me till repaired. ;) Well, let me tell you that this patch past stuff is so easy to work with and this evening I finished buffing out my repair and you can't even tell there was a scratch. Color matched exactly and I was pretty proud of my efforts. So for anyone that may be in the same situation, I thought I would share my experience. Today, I ordered another patch paste repair kit in a different color, so I'm going to fix all the minor blemishes on this baby!

[JEREMY79]

milk here is what you do.
take your boat to an automotive paint supplyer. not the bodyshop. Each paint company ( i mean supplyer to body shops) will have a machine, for their brand paint, that can read the color and match it in whatever kind of paint you want. PPG's matching computer is called "The Prophet" it matches to within 99% correctness. The supplyer can print you out a formula that the bodyshop can mix your color off of, or just call them with it or somthing. DuPont and the rest of the companies also have a machine. I do not know what they are called though. I worked for PPG for the last 4 years.

[pilot02]

Anyone know of where I can get samples of the gel colors or a color chart. Spectrum doesn't have any and I'm looking for a brighter teal, kinda like was used on the early 90's N boats.