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milkmania
10-29-2007, 02:26 AM
1987 Buick Grand National GNX #359 - Only 9 Original Miles, never been titled




http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Buick-Grand-National-MSO-TITLE-1987-BUICK-GRAND-NATIONAL-GNX-359-NEVER-TITLED-9-MILES_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6137QQihZ008QQite mZ180170402847QQtcZphoto

JimN
10-29-2007, 06:55 AM
Do you think undercoating was offered as an option?

T Scott
10-29-2007, 09:10 AM
If I ever spend $100,000 on a Buick, please shoot me! I'd rather spend $75000 on a 2007 Corvette Z06.

Labatt911
10-29-2007, 09:27 AM
I went to high school with a kid who's dad had this exact car. One night he a few of his friends thought it would be cool to sneak it out for a ride. Needless to say the 15 year old without a license wrecked the car, flipped it over an embankment. No one got seriously hurt, but the car was totalled. Bet his dad would like to beat him again after seeing that listing

Maristar210
10-29-2007, 10:07 AM
I loved the car when I was a younger man but I must admit it was a drag racer only. It handled like dog **** and unless my last name was Buick i would not care for it at anywhere near that price. I think Tom Scott has the right idea.... A nice triple black Z06 sunds goods to me...

milkmania
10-29-2007, 10:31 AM
but it's only got 9.9 miles on it :uglyhamme

BrianM
10-29-2007, 10:49 AM
And it still has a full GM factory warranty since it was never titled or put in service.

milkmania
10-29-2007, 10:53 AM
And it still has a full GM factory warranty since it was never titled or put in service.

I'd love to see them try to honor that.....

well, sir you need a new steering column
yes, it's under warranty but we quit stocking them 15 years ago!


:uglyhamme

tex
10-29-2007, 11:31 AM
I wonder if the back seat works?

Maristar210
10-29-2007, 11:33 AM
I wonder if the back seat works?


My dad had a 79 and 83 Pontiac Grand Prix. Neither were conducive to getting busy in the back seat and the fronts did not fold back very far either :o

captain planet
10-29-2007, 11:42 AM
I thought that on a Buick, the number of vents on the side of the front of the car was the same as the number of cylinders in the engine. This one has 4 on each side, but it has a V-6.

ShamrockIV
10-29-2007, 12:22 PM
They made a V6 and a V8. the 6 was supercharged and way faster!!!!!

shepherd
10-29-2007, 12:23 PM
Before you drop 100 grand on that POS, you might want to buy my ALL ORIGINAL, slightly used (less than 100,000 miles!) 1996 Chevy Impala SS. This is the last of the big, V8, rear wheel drive, Chevy sedans. Don't be fooled by the IMPOSTER Chevy is selling today.

$50,000 and it's yours! :)

TMCNo1
10-29-2007, 12:37 PM
Before you drop 100 grand on that POS, you might want to buy my ALL ORIGINAL, slightly used (less than 100,000 miles!) 1996 Chevy Impala SS. This is the last of the big, V8, rear wheel drive, Chevy sedans. Don't be fooled by the IMPOSTER Chevy is selling today.

$50,000 and it's yours! :)

Did you ever tow a '89/'90 PS 190 to Cypress Gardens for a reunion with that Impala SS. Someone was there in 1998 with a black one pulling a red/white PS190. I talked to him and although the car was only rated to tow 1000#, he put a trailer hitch on it anyway and said it was the most awesome tow vehicle he had ever had.

peason
10-29-2007, 12:38 PM
What timing, I was just thinking about this car a couple of days ago. Never owned one, but loved them when they came out - had a friend that was a big Olds Cutlass fan. If I was Jay Leno - I would have a Grand National in my stable.

JR34
10-29-2007, 12:41 PM
Wonder if you could take it for a test drive before buying? Who buys a car without a test drive :) That thing could have 17 miles before a buyer is secured.

Maristar210
10-29-2007, 12:49 PM
Before you drop 100 grand on that POS, you might want to buy my ALL ORIGINAL, slightly used (less than 100,000 miles!) 1996 Chevy Impala SS. This is the last of the big, V8, rear wheel drive, Chevy sedans. Don't be fooled by the IMPOSTER Chevy is selling today.

$50,000 and it's yours! :)


Got a pic you grouper monger? :D :D

shepherd
10-29-2007, 02:55 PM
Did you ever tow a '89/'90 PS 190 to Cypress Gardens for a reunion with that Impala SS. Someone was there in 1998 with a black one pulling a red/white PS190. I talked to him and although the car was only rated to tow 1000#, he put a trailer hitch on it anyway and said it was the most awesome tow vehicle he had ever had.

Close! My Impala is black and I used to have a red/white '90 PS 190. And I took my red/white 190 to Cypress Gardens for an MC gathering, but that was in 1999 and I didn't tow it with my Impala.

I would never put a hitch on that car, though I bet it would look awesome towing my black/white '03 S&S PS 197.

Got a pic you grouper monger? :D :D

Of course! You guys know how I love to show off my ****! :D

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TMCNo1
10-29-2007, 03:40 PM
Close! My Impala is black and I used to have a red/white '90 PS 190. And I took my red/white 190 to Cypress Gardens for an MC gathering, but that was in 1999 and I didn't tow it with my Impala.

I would never put a hitch on that car, though I bet it would look awesome towing my black/white '03 S&S PS 197.



Of course! You guys know how I love to show off my ****! :D

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We didn't attend in 1999, so we missed you.

shepherd
10-29-2007, 04:21 PM
We didn't attend in 1999, so we missed you.

It wasn't really a MC "reunion." It was a "river run" sponsored by Liquid Sports of Orlando. But this time, instead of a river run, we went to the lakes and Cypress Gardens. Great time (boats in the water!).

88 PS190
10-29-2007, 06:32 PM
Give me that car for a year and I can make it like any other.... and worth alot less.

Mikey
10-29-2007, 10:19 PM
If I had 100k to spend on a muscle car it probably would not be that one. But it is however a very nice car. There are alot of Grand National fans out there that would snatch that up in a hurry. That car will do nothing but increase in value.

shepherd
10-30-2007, 12:34 AM
If I had 100k to spend on a muscle car it probably would be that one.

Same here. Something like a clean 60-something GTO convertible would be much better IMO.

WESSTAR
10-30-2007, 01:40 AM
Someone has to like it 11 people have bid 64 times on it already. 100k would buy a faster and much cooler car than that. Maybe a Foose or a Boyd creation.

cbryan70
10-30-2007, 01:50 AM
hmm mbidding ended and reserve wasnt met at a little under 100K

uawaterskier
10-30-2007, 02:03 AM
They made a V6 and a V8. the 6 was supercharged and way faster!!!!!
nope, it is turbocharged. And I bet the auction ended with someone calling the place and saying ill give you twice what you want for it to take it off ebay.

TMCNo1
10-30-2007, 07:20 AM
Don't worry, it will probably show up @ Barrett-Jackson Auction and go for much more!

Ric
10-30-2007, 12:15 PM
I remember when that car came out, I thought it was the coolest thing I'd seen. A sleeper of sorts(except everybody knew about it)

Maristar210
10-30-2007, 12:37 PM
nope, it is turbocharged. And I bet the auction ended with someone calling the place and saying ill give you twice what you want for it to take it off ebay.

It had a buy it now so no need to do that... The auction ended without the reserve being met. It does not appear anyone offered them a ridiculous price that I can see. Foolish move at best anyways. That car is not worth the money IMO....

damaged442
12-05-2007, 05:11 PM
There are 3 more GNX's on ebay right now. All three are over $66K. It's kinda funny how these cars never depreciated. They were $30K brand new, but Buick only built 547 of them. These were not regular Grand Nationals. The GNX was modified by ASC McLaren with all sorts of go fast goodies. This was as sick a muscle car that could be had, and still kicks butt by todays standards. They were good for 0-60 times about 5.0 sec and mid 13s in the quarter...stock! This was 1987!! Give me any muscle car times from any year. This is not a bad comparison, right? They were rated at 276 HP, but that was a bit on the conservative side. These handled much better than a stock GN too. Face it, they were not exactly light and nimble. Would I pay that much for one? If I HAD that much, sure why not? The GNX is a rare little beastie. The problem I have is that cars are meant to be driven. These things are not going to car people, they are going to investors that are driven by money, that kill the normal joe car enthusiast as there is no way they can afford to play. Oh well, I give the soapbox to the next person!

CRAIGTHEMAN
12-05-2007, 05:26 PM
WOW!!! i cant belive that

JimN
12-05-2007, 05:49 PM
I don't want to come off as a smart-azz but since when is a 3.8L what goes in a muscle car? Sure, it's got a turbo but that does nothing for low-end grunt. Also, according to the McLaren blurb, they didn't change anything on the rear suspension, which seems odd to me.

"There's no replacement for displacement".

damaged442
12-05-2007, 06:55 PM
I don't want to come off as a smart-azz but since when is a 3.8L what goes in a muscle car? Sure, it's got a turbo but that does nothing for low-end grunt. Also, according to the McLaren blurb, they didn't change anything on the rear suspension, which seems odd to me.

"There's no replacement for displacement".

I know what you mean. I said the same thing about a V6. I posted the times, there's both high end and low end grunt there. The turbo on the GNX is not the same as the GN. I don't know what McLaren blurb you mean, but the most of the rear end is changed from a stock Grand National, they're quite different. There's a ladder bar/panhard rod suspension, instead of the control arm 4 link on the GN and other G bodies.
As far as displacement goes, the Buick GSX in 1970 has one of the baddest motors put out by GM at 455 cubes and 510 ft/lbs of torque, and it still couldn't outrun this V6. Neither could the Olds 442 w-30, or the Chevelle SS LS6 454. It's weird that GM actually built it, you know?. What else did GM build in the 80s that went fast? Not much. It's a cool car in a time of the most mediocre automobile performance ever. But damn, are they expensive.

Hollywood
12-10-2007, 01:25 PM
Also, according to the McLaren blurb, they didn't change anything on the rear suspension, which seems odd to me.

I guess that means McLaren wasn't responsible for the change, but there definitely was one.

"But with the GNX-only Panhard bar/torque arm rear suspension, the feel was totally different. This unique suspension, replete with a classy aluminum rear end cover, pushes the car's rear up when powerbraking--and traction with street tires is astounding."

http://www.gmhightechperformance.com/features/0512gm_1987_buick_gnx_feature/index.html

"To handle this extra power, the transmission was beefed up with firmer shifts and the rear axle received a longitudinal torque ladder bar with a panhard rod to help prevent wheel hop and torque twist. It also received a special rear axle housing cover made of aluminum (with GNX embossed on it) that serves as an additional strengthening element and point for the torque bar. For even more strengthening, the car body received special structural reinforcements in the form of "behind the back seat bracing" and special chassis (steel cross member between the chassis rails) bracing."

http://www.musclecarclub.com/musclecars/buick-grandnational/buick-grandnational.shtml

The 0-60 times and 1/4 times were fudged by GM so that the 86/87 GN did not look faster than the Corvette of that year, but everyone knew they were including Car & Driver.

"A contemporary Porsche 930 hit (97 km/h) in 5.0 seconds and ran the quarter mile in 13.6 seconds, roughly equivalent to the GNX, which cost much less and could out-accelerate the naturally-aspirated 911 of the day. Ironically, many believe that these performance numbers were the reason the GNX was axed. GM didn't want one of its own cars outperforming its flagship, the Corvette, and pulled the plug on the Buick program."

http://www.grand-national-gnx.com/history-buick-grand-national