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dmayer84
10-11-2007, 01:44 PM
Found this over on Wake World

Diesel X-Star with Yanmar engine.
http://www.yanmarmarine.com/products/product_lp.php

Says he gets 4-5 GPH with the diesel instead of the 12-13 with the gas.

http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/messages/3183/505693.jpg
http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/messages/3183/505694.jpg
http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/messages/3183/505697.jpg

KnoxX2
10-11-2007, 01:51 PM
Was this put out by MC or was it installed by the owner?

dmayer84
10-11-2007, 01:52 PM
Installed by the owner.


edit/ misread part of his post.

Roonie's
10-11-2007, 01:59 PM
^^^^ installed by owner at a diesel engine place. He never said what happened to original engine. Here is what he did say about his current diesel engine. Heres a funny story about these engines. I went into Mastry Engine Center today, and there was a boat with my engine in it, and it was being serviced. I found out that this boat, was a Parasail boat, and was in for its 6,000 hour scheduled maintnence. Nothing was wrong with this engine, it had ran for 6,000 hours so far, and was just in their to change fluids and zincs.

A couple grand more than a big block. It is the 315 HP turbo diesel. It comes with a 2000 hour Yanmar warranty on it and he said it is faster than any regular gasser out of the hole with the turbo. He was also able to use the same tranny.

Sodar
10-11-2007, 02:03 PM
Not a bad deal!! I wonder how hard it was to find an adapter for the v-drive. MYMC should approve of this set up over the BBC!!

Roonie's
10-11-2007, 02:09 PM
He uses it in salt water and it has a closed cooling system.

There is company based in St. Pete, FL called Mastry Engine Center, and they outfitted the boat with the Diesel. It uses the same Transmition as the big block, and works perfect with it.

Mikey
10-11-2007, 02:31 PM
Good concept but I think I would get tired of smelling the fumes while riding.

Roonie's
10-11-2007, 02:39 PM
Some more info on the boat since fumes were brought up.


Also, the boat is much quicker from 0-23 than any other boat I have been in (FULLY WEIGHTED BOATS OF COURSE)

Heres some more quick facts:
The engine gives off no harmful fumes, so you can wakesurf all day, and not pass out.
Also, it has a trubo on it, so the boat seems slow when u first hit the throttle, but then with or without weight, it jumps out of the water.
It is also about the same weight as the Big block taht comes stock in X-stars.

dmayer84
10-11-2007, 02:48 PM
Can you order an XStar with out an engine from the factory?

rrbooker
10-11-2007, 03:15 PM
Here are a couple more diesel installs!

http://www.marinedieselusa.com/marine-engine-towsport.html#malibu

http://www.marinedieselusa.com/marine-engine-correctcraft.html

http://www.marinedieselusa.com/marine-engine-tige.html

http://www.marinedieselusa.com/marine-engine-whatsnew.html

Jim@BAWS
10-11-2007, 03:17 PM
Okay...lets stop the RUMOR control here.

In 2004 MC was experimenting with possible diesel conversations.
An X-Star was brought to Florida to MASTERY DIESEL in St. Pete Florida. The beginning of the salt water series product. They ended up liking the boat so much that they purchased it. The NEW owner who just purchased in the last 6 weeks is the President of the USF (Ranked #5 right now) Wakeboard/Waterski club.

You cannot buy a boat w/o a motor from MC. You can purchase a diesel motor now VERY VERY expensive.


Now ya know

Jim@BAWS

rrbooker
10-11-2007, 03:26 PM
When i bought my xstar i made an offer of $50000, and they laughed at me and said "maybe without a motor"!!!!:D

Mikey
10-11-2007, 03:27 PM
Some more info on the boat since fumes were brought up.

The fumes may not be harmful but I sure dont want to smell them while I am riding.

Roonie's
10-11-2007, 03:27 PM
or you can go to Mastery Diesel and have them install a yanmar for you.

I am sure other diesel places could do the same. I guess if your motor blows it could be an option.

dmayer84
10-11-2007, 03:31 PM
Okay...lets stop the RUMOR control here.

In 2004 MC was experimenting with possible diesel conversations.
An X-Star was brought to Florida to MASTERY DIESEL in St. Pete Florida. The beginning of the salt water series product. They ended up liking the boat so much that they purchased it. The NEW owner who just purchased in the last 6 weeks is the President of the USF (Ranked #5 right now) Wakeboard/Waterski club.

You cannot buy a boat w/o a motor from MC. You can purchase a diesel motor now VERY VERY expensive.


Now ya know

Jim@BAWS

Not sure what rumor was started?

And right now, at least from the information on MC's site, the diesel engine is not available for the XStar, at least according to the design a boat.

east tx skier
10-11-2007, 03:39 PM
There's a place in OK that does Diesel marinizations for tow boats.

Roonie's
10-11-2007, 03:41 PM
Not sure what rumor was started?

And right now, at least from the information on MC's site, the diesel engine is not available for the XStar, at least according to the design a boat.


LOL was wondering about what rumor was started too??

rrbooker
10-11-2007, 03:44 PM
There's a place in OK that does Diesel marinizations for tow boats.

Is this the place?

Here are a couple more diesel installs!

http://www.marinedieselusa.com/marine-engine-towsport.html#malibu

http://www.marinedieselusa.com/marine-engine-correctcraft.html

http://www.marinedieselusa.com/marine-engine-tige.html

http://www.marinedieselusa.com/marine-engine-whatsnew.html

endl
10-11-2007, 04:07 PM
Wow, wonder what the retro cost him?

east tx skier
10-11-2007, 04:11 PM
Is this the place?

That's the one.

MYMC
10-11-2007, 05:07 PM
Diesels are avilable in 190/197 & MS280/X80 from the factory.
Yanmar would not be my pick for a boat like an X-Star...small, high high speed diesels are not my pick for this application...then again due to the costs involved I find all this diesel ski/wake stuff silly.

CBFryman
10-17-2007, 08:30 PM
Okay...lets stop the RUMOR control here.

In 2004 MC was experimenting with possible diesel conversations.
An X-Star was brought to Florida to MASTERY DIESEL in St. Pete Florida. The beginning of the salt water series product. They ended up liking the boat so much that they purchased it. The NEW owner who just purchased in the last 6 weeks is the President of the USF (Ranked #5 right now) Wakeboard/Waterski club.
You cannot buy a boat w/o a motor from MC. You can purchase a diesel motor now VERY VERY expensive.


Now ya know

Jim@BAWS

100% correct.

I will have to tell Bill that he is being talked about on the Mastercraft Forum. 8p

hkyplyr31
10-18-2007, 04:25 AM
man, it sure would be nice to have an X-Star with a Duramax....

MYMC
10-18-2007, 11:28 AM
man, it sure would be nice to have an X-Star with a Duramax....
Not really...it's been tested and didn't live in the marine enviroment.

ski_king
10-18-2007, 11:43 AM
Is this (http://indmar.com/ProductLine/Indmar/Steyr-256/index.html) Indmar engine the same one MC is offering?

Chas
10-18-2007, 11:43 AM
Fumes are being talked about - is there anyone here who has been towed behind one of these things?

I imagine that putting an underwater exhaust would end the fume issue if there is one - but I don't smell the fumes from my gas engine, nor have I behind any boat I have skied behind. Even clamp-ons with smoke pouring out - the airflow seems to be enough to keep me in clear air.

What do you think? Anyone actually tried it?

dmayer84
10-18-2007, 11:49 AM
Is this (http://indmar.com/ProductLine/Indmar/Steyr-256/index.html) Indmar engine the same one MC is offering?

They use a VW engine.

ski_king
10-18-2007, 11:59 AM
They use a VW engine.
Thanks, I wasn't sure if STEYR MOTORS GmbH (http://www.steyr-motors.com/company/company.htm) was part of the VW Group.
I see on their website the were part of the Daimler group.

CBFryman
10-18-2007, 02:38 PM
Fumes are being talked about - is there anyone here who has been towed behind one of these things?

I imagine that putting an underwater exhaust would end the fume issue if there is one - but I don't smell the fumes from my gas engine, nor have I behind any boat I have skied behind. Even clamp-ons with smoke pouring out - the airflow seems to be enough to keep me in clear air.

What do you think? Anyone actually tried it?
If I ever get to ride behind it I will let you know, lol. Though I doubt the fumes would smell any worse than a gasoline engine as long as it isnt spewing black particulates and it is all around much safer the breathe. No carbon monoxide.

fbatwork
10-27-2007, 02:58 AM
New diesel technology with the high pressure fuel has dramatically improved both noise and exhaust issues - It would be nice to see a diesel option in all of the current models.

KevenAtWakeUSF
10-29-2007, 02:11 AM
I took that first picture!! Thats funny right there! Yes, it does smell more then a regular boat, yes its not as fast....but for the price I have been pitching in to go riding behind it I say its worth it! What Jim said about it is the truth, Bill's dad got a real good deal on it and it kicks up a hell of a wake!


More pics/photoshop

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f320/blueovalstanggt/WakeUSF045.jpg
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KevenAtWakeUSF
10-29-2007, 02:53 AM
Also, link to original thread?

DieselXstar
10-29-2007, 03:12 AM
Ok guys I am Bill a student at USF and the owner of the boat. I heard there was some talk about it so I had to get on here and join in! lol Behind the boat there is no smell at all while riding except for a half a second when you might get a whiff of diesel when the boat takes off loaded, but one will get the same exhaust smell from gas in the situation. Other than that the boat drives and handles the same. It is a little slower for the first second when loaded until the turbo kicks in then you can back off even with 2500+ on top of factory ballast. The boat stays in St. Pete and run in salt water while being properly maintained as any boat in salt. It is not the club boat but is used when I am able to get home on the weekends. Hopefully it should be around for a long while!

sizzler
10-29-2007, 06:04 AM
welcome to the board......nice ride......

kiteklan
01-05-2010, 03:18 PM
I am right now repairing a mastercraft prostar 190 with a steyr 236 Diesel engine.
>Check my thread:
http://www.mastercraft.com/teamtalk/showthread.php?t=33716

1redTA
01-05-2010, 03:32 PM
Not really...it's been tested and didn't live in the marine enviroment.

That's funny I have seen magazine ads for duramax marine engines by Banks. Just
imagine putting a tuner on a marine diesel engine extra 50-125 hp and the intense torque!

MYMC
01-05-2010, 05:12 PM
That's funny I have seen magazine ads for duramax marine engines by Banks. Just
imagine putting a tuner on a marine diesel engine extra 50-125 hp and the intense torque!
Never said that power would be an issue...just that they don't live in the marine enviro. During testing they fell well short of the minimum.