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daytrip
10-03-2007, 03:07 PM
Hello,

I'm new to the site and looking to buy a MC. I mainly ski but have a family of 4 and also need a boat with some room. I would like to stay with the DD for the slalom wake and was considering the 209 or 205. Any and all suggestions would be great.

thanks,

east tx skier
10-03-2007, 03:15 PM
Here is a very nice writeup on the 205. I honestly don't think you can go wrong with any year of that boat. But depending on your needs, one generation of it might be more preferable than the other (92--95 is more slalom friendly; 96--2000 is more boarding friendly). But really, either generation of 205 can accomodate. I'll let some 209 owners give you the rundown on it. Welcome to the forum!

History of the Pro Star 205 by year (http://www.tmcowners.com/teamtalk/showpost.php?p=112635&postcount=21)

JoshBuzz
10-03-2007, 03:20 PM
I love the 205 and prefer it over the 209 because they opened the door to the X-Star, and all that has become of it! the 209/X-2 is a nice boat, but design wise and seating wise I prefer the 205!!

KBryant2007
10-03-2007, 10:45 PM
I bought my 209 earlier in the year. I have a family of four and we have plenty of room. We all ski, wakebard and tube and can't imagine any other boat. I have the MCX 350 and the boat has more then enough power. Good luck, and welcome aboard.

shepherd
10-03-2007, 11:30 PM
My buddy's '93 205 has a great slalom wake. But I think my 197 might actually have more room in it. I don't know what kind of money you want to spend, but if you can afford a 197 it's worth a look. Either way, I agree that you can't go wrong with an older 205. I know nothing about the 209s.

JohnE
10-03-2007, 11:35 PM
My buddy's '93 205 has a great slalom wake. But I think my 197 might actually have more room in it. I don't know what kind of money you want to spend, but if you can afford a 197 it's worth a look. Either way, I agree that you can't go wrong with an older 205. I know nothing about the 209s.

I've never been in a 205, but I would have hoped that it has more room than a 197. We've had 5 adults and a child in ours as well as 4 adults and 3 kids, but it is tight......hence the invention of the 214;)

KBryant2007
10-03-2007, 11:39 PM
Here's a pic of my 209. Little larger then a 197. I generally run with 4 adults and 2 kids, and an icechest w/o any trouble. :)

KBryant2007
10-03-2007, 11:44 PM
Here's another picture

shepherd
10-03-2007, 11:52 PM
That's a beautiful boat KB. Right now, I'm imagining it without a tower :love: :love: :love:

shepherd
10-03-2007, 11:54 PM
I've never been in a 205, but I would have hoped that it has more room than a 197. We've had 5 adults and a child in ours as well as 4 adults and 3 kids, but it is tight......hence the invention of the 214;)

I never would have expected it, but it just seems like my 197 is roomier than the 205 (at least the older ones). I've never been in a 209, or a 214 though I'd like to some day!

03 35th Anniversary
10-04-2007, 12:20 AM
That's a beautiful boat KB. Right now, I'm imagining it without a tower :love: Hey player don't be hate'n on da tower.:mad: :mad: :mad:

shepherd
10-04-2007, 09:52 AM
Hey player don't be hate'n on da tower.:mad: :mad: :mad:

boat be dope wit da tower, but as much as you think its got flava it aint got but some seasonin salts yo

I'm not hate'n, just personal preference.

daytrip
10-04-2007, 11:39 AM
Thanks for all the information. I'm starting to lean towards the 209 with the more room and yet a great wake.

That is one nice looking boat you have there, even with the tower:D ...........I think the 209 is sharp looking.

east tx skier
10-04-2007, 11:45 AM
My buddy's '93 205 has a great slalom wake. But I think my 197 might actually have more room in it. I don't know what kind of money you want to spend, but if you can afford a 197 it's worth a look. Either way, I agree that you can't go wrong with an older 205. I know nothing about the 209s.

Your 197 definitely has more room.

east tx skier
10-04-2007, 11:49 AM
I've never been in a 205, but I would have hoped that it has more room than a 197. We've had 5 adults and a child in ours as well as 4 adults and 3 kids, but it is tight......hence the invention of the 214;)

The beam of the 92--95 205 was 85". There seems to be some variance in the 96-2000 boats, but it was roughly increased to 87" with more freeboard. Felt bigger. I think the beam on the 197 is 90ish" (don't quote me). That may not sound like a lot, but it makes a big difference in how big the interior feels (as much as the 2" between the 205s felt).

I think the bow feels bigger in the 2nd Generation 205 than the 197. Bow of the 197 feels somewhat similar (though probably a tad more spacious) to the 1st generation 205, but it appears to sit lower in the water).

east tx skier
10-04-2007, 11:50 AM
Thanks for all the information. I'm starting to lean towards the 209 with the more room and yet a great wake.

That is one nice looking boat you have there, even with the tower:D ...........I think the 209 is sharp looking.

Whatever you decide, don't buy without skiing and/or boarding behind it. Don't just look from the boat.

Muttley
10-04-2007, 01:22 PM
I can't speak about the other boats, but I just got a '92 PS205. I've only got it out once, but we had 5 people in it and there was plenty of room. The 2 up in the bow rider were hardly noticed.

I can't wait until next year to get some use out of it! :D

shepherd
10-04-2007, 01:24 PM
Whatever you decide, don't buy without skiing and/or boarding behind it. Don't just look from the boat.

I wonder how many people have actually done that? I never did on the 2 MCs I've owned. Heck, I put a down payment on my 197 without even seeing it in person, though i bought it from someone I trusted.

daytrip
10-04-2007, 02:22 PM
Whatever you decide, don't buy without skiing and/or boarding behind it. Don't just look from the boat.

Advice well taken.........thanks.