Boat Update

[6ballsisall]

Well I fiberglassed in the area I was concerned about. That was my first experience messing with the stuff, not to hard but man does it have a scent!

Here are some pics, 1st is of the area I glassed in. 2nd is a quick pic of the boat just after sanding down all the old carpet glue. Got the carpet today, thinking maybe later this week I can take a whirl and putting that in.

[6ballsisall]

Pic #2 Below

[Mag_Red]

:eek: Looks like a lot of work! Need a hand??? I might have some free time Jeff.

[MarkP]

Looks good..


Better you than me.:worthy: But hell I would do it just to get a look at my boat. (my boat is at camp for the winter):(

[6ballsisall]

:eek: Looks like a lot of work! Need a hand??? I might have some free time Jeff.


Oh yeah!! What you got going on Saturday?

Was going to start another thread but I'll ask it here. Those are talented at finding stuff on Ebay, I am really looking for a rear seat for this year mastercraft. If you find one will you PLEASE email me?

jdrandol@hotmail.com

[milkmania]

I used to work at a place that made fiberglass gel coat....shipping and receiving
company name = Co-Plas in Ft. Smith Arkansas


it has a very unique odor... I remember getting that small patch kit for the front of my boat, opened the yellow envelope it was in, told my wife to smell and tell me what it reminds her of.

Immediately, she said CO-PLAS!!!
haven't been there in 20 years, but she instantly recognized the smell.:purplaugh

[Mag_Red]

Oh yeah!! What you got going on Saturday?


Saturday..............nothing planned as of yet. Saturday night going hunting for some :D

[NatesGr8]

Lookin Good :headbang:

[AirJunky]

Well I fiberglassed in the area I was concerned about. That was my first experience messing with the stuff, not to hard but man does it have a scent!

Here are some pics, 1st is of the area I glassed in. 2nd is a quick pic of the boat just after sanding down all the old carpet glue. Got the carpet today, thinking maybe later this week I can take a whirl and putting that in.

HEhe, just wait till you get a whiff of that carpet glue...... not quite as aromatic as the gelcoat but you'll enjoy it every bit as much.

[BriEOD]

That is a big job to tackle!

[Mag_Red]

HEhe, just wait till you get a whiff of that carpet glue...... not quite as aromatic as the gelcoat but you'll enjoy it every bit as much.Why do you think I offered to help??? ;)

[Farmer Ted]

Well I fiberglassed in the area I was concerned about. That was my first experience messing with the stuff, not to hard but man does it have a scent!

Here are some pics, 1st is of the area I glassed in. 2nd is a quick pic of the boat just after sanding down all the old carpet glue. Got the carpet today, thinking maybe later this week I can take a whirl and putting that in.


That looks like B 1/2, smells kind of like garlic and funk, nasty stuff to get off your hands but holds good. Did you cut out the bad part like George mentioned or just fill in the hole?

[ski_king]

Looks good!

Use a fan in the garage when using the glue.

[Leroy]

Mag; It'll probably help your Saturday night hunting trip. 8p

Why do you think I offered to help??? ;)

[André]

Mag; It'll probably help your Saturday night hunting trip. 8p
YAaaa.they'll probably stick to you! :banana:

[6ballsisall]

Mag Red's got Saturday Night Fever! :woohoo:


Having fun when I get a chance to work on the boat. It's just like they say, a boat is nothing more than a big Hull in the water that you dump money into! :rolleyes:

The budget to fix it up sure seems to be expanding! :purplaugh

Was thinking next winter will be the engine year for the boat. Has anyone ever done this or heard of someone doing this? I keep getting performance parts catalogs and emails for HO 351 windsors. There is one in particular that advertises a 351 Long Block rated for 420 hp that is naturally aspirated. I thought that sure would be fun to have in the ole 86! I had the transmission built a little extra beefy to handle extra kick (current motor is hopped up) Anyone ever dropped a hot motor in a inboard before? I know its not really needed but it sure would be fun!! :cool:

[ski_king]

The 425 HP/454 was an option back then. I rode and skied behind one. Overkill, but WOW!!! :eek3: :eek3:
go for it

There is one or 2 on here with that big engine I believe.

[6ballsisall]

The 425 HP/454 was an option back then. I rode and skied behind one. Overkill, but WOW!!! :eek3: :eek3:
go for it

There is one or 2 on here with that big engine I believe.

Yeah, I am thinking hard about it. Mine has more than enough giddy up but you can never have to much power right? :D The price is very similar to rebuilding my current block so what the heck! :steering:

[east tx skier]

Just remember that that engine is mighty thirsty, even compared to the small blocks who can, of course, drink it down.

[BrianM]

There is a guy over on the MBO board that has built a very hot motor that he dropped into a Sportster. 420hp and GPSed at 68 mph. Read this thread for more info. http://www.malibuboatowners.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=12734&hl=

[east tx skier]

Hahaha! "It's the catsass." That's funny. What is it about those malibus and their top end. The stock ones seem to hit mid fifties from all I've read. Maybe that's just some of them.

And here I am just as pleased as can be with the little torque bump I got from the performer intake. Probably the last upgrade I'll ever make until the motor blows up and I drop a fuel injected replacement engine in it.

[BrianM]

From what I know most of the Malibus (slalom boats) have a lot less wetted surface and displace less water than the MCs. This allows the same HP to push the boat faster and usually burns less fuel. Those Sportsters are light, narrow and fast.

[east tx skier]

Sportsters are tiny. But how do you think the wetted surface of today's response compares with an early 90s MC? I mentioned on another thread that according to the boat buyers guides, the 93 PS 190 with the 351HO @285 HP (pslot) hit 36 mph in 5.33 seconds, just a bit faster than the 05 197 running the MCX, a four blade, and likely a power slot. No doubt, 93 was a lighter boat, but I figure it, too, had less wetted surface. Still top end was 46, tops.

[BrianM]

But how do you think the wetted surface of today's response compares with an early 90s MC?... the 93 PS 190 with the 351HO @285 HP (pslot) hit 36 mph in 5.33 seconds

I would be willing to bet that they are similar as far as wetted surface but even a base Response nowadays is running 315hp and generally they are quoting top speeds of right at 50mph with the Hammerhead or the LT1 with 380+ hp even their Monsoon has 345hp now. More hp = More mph at least to a point.

[sfitzgerald351]

Just remember that that engine is mighty thirsty, even compared to the small blocks who can, of course, drink it down.

Amen to that. As one of the owners of the "BIG" motor I can tell you that it sucks gas like you won't believe. The power is nice, but the EFI 351s actually seem to pull better to me. Though I'm comparing newer boats to older boats in this comparision so it could be differences in the hull. I'd just hop up your 351 or put an EFI motor in before you put a big-block. Also, the motor box on the 454 is a good 8 inches bigger in all directions than for the 351 so you might have clearance issues, different motor mounts, who knows what else. Not worth it to me.

[lakes Rick]

Seems to me the big block, late 80's boats all said "barefoot" on the sides.??? MC was trying to get a little more speed out of these for barefooting....

Mags lookin for love in all the wrong places.... Although my friend married two women he met at church ( yeah he is a glutton for punishment) and BOTH ran off with other guys...

Mag, hunting without a gun or fishin?????

[jimmer2880]

I would be willing to bet that they are similar as far as wetted surface but even a base Response nowadays is running 315hp and generally they are quoting top speeds of right at 50mph with the Hammerhead or the LT1 with 380+ hp even their Monsoon has 345hp now. More hp = More mph at least to a point.

I have to somewhat disagree... when it comes to comp boats, top end usually has much more to do with wetted surface at top end then raw HP. I know people who have dropped $10k into a motor to only get 3-4 extra MPH's out of it. Comp bass boats aren't all that light and come close to a 190 in weight (2000 lbs +), yet they do 70 MPH out of a motor with only 200 HP. It's because they only have 6" of boat in the water at 70 compared to our 200 square feet.

[BrianM]

I absolutley agree with you Jimmer. I though that is what I was saying. The new Malibus have less wetted surface than the new MCs thus they top out a bit faster. But compare an older MC to a newer Malibu with about the same wetted surface and the Malibu is still faster mostly do to increase in HP. With the same wetted surface area you generally get more speed with more hp.

[lakes Rick]

You can only push a tug boat so fast... I always tell, ( and was told this before I got an MC), If you wanna go fast do NOT get a ski boat..

[Cloaked]

Thread 100% jacked....

:popcorn:

[AirJunky]

Anyone remember Extreme Boats out of Texas? They were an I/O, very similar hull as many inboards, but ran a Volvo Duoprop. Still had 3 fins under it & was the only AWSA approved I/O.
As I recall the boat did like 52 mph with a basic EFI 350. But they had an option for a blown big block too. The thing put out like 700 horse & did over 90 mph on the same hull!

[MarkP]

Is This It??


http://www.skiproboats.com/boats/boat_models.htm

[6ballsisall]

Well I know its not needed but you know how it goes, hard to leave anything alone!! Gotta tinker!
Who knows, maybe next winter I'll put a beefy 420hp 351 in there or even get wilder and turbo charge it. For now, I just want to get on the water!!! :banana:

[Mag_Red]

Well I know its not needed but you know how it goes, hard to leave anything alone!! Gotta tinker!
Who knows, maybe next winter I'll put a beefy 420hp 351 in there or even get wilder and turbo charge it. For now, I just want to get on the water!!! :banana: How about we get that new carpet in first Hot Rod?????? :D

[Professor]

I remember Extreme Boats. Didn’t Hydrodyne have an I/O that was AWSA approved years ago?

[6ballsisall]

How about we get that new carpet in first Hot Rod?????? :D


Oh yea, good idea. :D Going to go buy a heater for the garage tommorrow so the carpet glue sticks good.
The wife wants to know what you want for breakfast Saturday am.

[AirJunky]

That would be the one, Mark. Their sure not much for posting pictures of their boats, huh. Much less stats about them!
I have a promo video from like 1999 & the boats are incredible. Around the boats, pick up a skier in reverse, electric telescopic boom & extended pylon, the list of really out there stats goes on & on.
Too bad their dealer network is next to nothing......

[Laurel_Lake_Skier]

The Extreme boats are still made and are popular with some of the barefooters. If you'd like to have a look....http://www.skiproboats.com/ or go to http://www.barefootcentral.com for some info on the races that they sponsor.

[Mag_Red]

Oh yea, good idea. :D Going to go buy a heater for the garage tommorrow so the carpet glue sticks good.
The wife wants to know what you want for breakfast Saturday am.Hmmmmmmmmm I'll have to think about that :D Just have a pot of coffee ready and I'm good to go!

[kpickett]

Anyone remember Extreme Boats out of Texas? They were an I/O, very similar hull as many inboards, but ran a Volvo Duoprop. Still had 3 fins under it & was the only AWSA approved I/O.


Ski Sanger made an I/O for three years - 86-88. It was AWSA approved for both three event and barefooting. I've still got my '87. It's a great boat - the hull and the gelcoat are as sturdy as anything I've ever seen. It's got wooden stringers that are still rock solid. This boat is fuel efficient and fast. It also tracked amazingly. We skied it in the course all the time. With the right prop it will do 60-65 easy. I've never been totally happy with the hole shot, though. I did switch to a Pirahna comp prop last year, and that helped. Now that I've got my Mastercraft, I need to sell the Sanger. If you know anyone who wants a GREAT family boat that is also a really good ski boat, let me know.

I actually hate to let it go, but having TWO boats in front of the house is giving my wife leverage to buy anything - "You bought what?" "Well, you have two boats!"

Here's a picture:

[east tx skier]

If it's pictures you want, then pictures you shall get.

Extreme Ski Boats (http://www.skiproboats.com/)

[6ballsisall]

Super big thanks for Mag Red's help today installing carpet in the 86! Couldn't have got it done as fast (or nearly as professional looking) without him. $120 later, the boat is already starting to look alot newer.

[6ballsisall]

Pic #2 below

[BriEOD]

WoW!! :eek: Mag/Jeff great work guys that looks awesome!! Looks like I wasn't the only one with the boat ripped apart this weekend. It is a great feeling to have it done. Nice work gents.

[Mag_Red]

Jeff.......glad I could be of some help today. At least now these guys know I good for something other than whining about my X girl friends :D
Jeff post one of the before pics :wavey:

[MarkP]

If it's pictures you want, then pictures you shall get.

Extreme Ski Boats (http://www.skiproboats.com/) You guys saw the vid?? Video 1 (http://www.extremeskiboats.com/videos/candlewood.wmv)

[MarkP]

Looks great J, mag:headbang:

[Mag_Red]

You guys saw the vid?? Video 1 (http://www.extremeskiboats.com/videos/candlewood.wmv)perhaps someone can tell me why I keep getting this message now when I try and view videos :confused: Windows Media Player cannot play the file. If the file is located on the Internet, connect to the Internet. If the file is located a removable storage card, insert the storage card. I never had this problm before. :confused:

[Mag_Red]

Looks great J, mag:headbang:Thanks Mark! :toast: I can't wait for the next project! :banana:

[MarkP]

perhaps someone can tell me why I keep getting this message now when I try and view videos :confused: Windows Media Player cannot play the file. If the file is located on the Internet, connect to the Internet. If the file is located a removable storage card, insert the storage card. I never had this problm before. :confused:It plays for me?? How about this??Video 1 (http://www.extremeskiboats.com/videos/MOV00103.MPG),

[MarkP]

It plays for me?? How about this??Video 1 (http://www.extremeskiboats.com/videos/MOV00103.MPG), Or this one?? Video 2 (http://www.extremeskiboats.com/videos/MOV00104.MPG),

[MarkP]

perhaps someone can tell me why I keep getting this message now when I try and view videos :confused: Windows Media Player cannot play the file. If the file is located on the Internet, connect to the Internet. If the file is located a removable storage card, insert the storage card. I never had this problm before. :confused:Well
connect to the damn internet :wavey:

[Mag_Red]

Well
connect to the damn internet :wavey:

I thought I was........maybe I'm actually in a chat room Eh Gene???

[6ballsisall]

Jeff.......glad I could be of some help today. At least now these guys know I good for something other than whining about my X girl friends :D
Jeff post one of the before pics :wavey:


Check out the first page of this thread.
I'll post somemore later, the wife says I have to spend time wtih her.

[MarkP]

Did it work for you yet??

[MarkP]

[QUOTE=jrandol, the wife says I have to spend time wtih her.[/QUOTE]>>>>>>>>>>:eek:

[jt76ss]

lookin good J

[6ballsisall]

Ok I am back! :uglyhamme

Laptop is a great thing, I can sit on the couch, she can watch a movie and I can surf TMC, it's quality time!! :cool:

[MarkP]

J

That was fast:love: :uglyhamme

[milkmania]

You guys saw the vid?? Video 1 (http://www.extremeskiboats.com/videos/candlewood.wmv)

how is that guy doing the wheelies in the other videos???

[jt76ss]

wham bam thnak you mamm



haha you go j

[Mag_Red]

how is that guy doing the wheelies in the other videos??? :eek: And I can't see a damned thing! :mad:

[MarkP]

how is that guy doing the wheelies in the other videos???Trim Baby Trim:steering:

[Leroy]

You're right Mark, I connected and it played for me. What's the point of the video? Is there a new sport that I've missed?



Well
connect to the damn internet :wavey:

[Leroy]

Hmmm, 9 minutes Jeff? :worthy: Ok I am back! :uglyhamme

Laptop is a great thing, I can sit on the couch, she can watch a movie and I can surf TMC, it's quality time!! :cool:

[MarkP]

You're right Mark, I connected and it played for me. What's the point of the video? Is there a new sport that I've missed?I think its just an I/O ski boat playing show offVideo (http://www.extremeskiboats.com/videos/KSOSlalombroadband.wmv) 1

[Hoosier Bob]

Fat chicks, T-backs and Mag can lay carpet all in one day! Elizabeth this is the big one! I'm coming to join'ya! No mockery intended just love the boat, beers and buds! :D :rant:

[Hoosier Bob]

Would you be available next weekend? I am planning to install my new keyless entry for the old 190! Remote start would be cool too! Maybe airconditioning and a drink holder. Oh yeah, some fuzzy dice!
See ya! :friday:

[milkmania]

:eek: And I can't see a damned thing! :mad:

did you ever get the videos to play?

[Mag_Red]

Would you be available next weekend? I am planning to install my new keyless entry for the old 190! Remote start would be cool too! Maybe airconditioning and a drink holder. Oh yeah, some fuzzy dice!
See ya! :friday: :uglyhamme Like you need another drink holder! :eek:

[BriEOD]

Elizabeth this is the big one!

Should we call you Red Foxx now!! :purplaugh

[André]

Good job Mag and Jeff!
Clean install,great looking!
Congrats!

[lakes Rick]

Glad to see you pretty boys on here are good for something besides running balls.....

[Hoosier Bob]

Actually the nickname is unfortunately "SKANK!" :mad: Should we call you Red Foxx now!! :purplaugh

[Leroy]

Oh no, Bob's you're having surgury to add another arm? You and Tex!:uglyhamme Like you need another drink holder! :eek:

[Hoosier Bob]

Not for me! I need them for you and Mag! The pylon 4 drink holder looks very interesting. Hey, anyone got a keg under the bow with a tapper? Obviously for mooring after a day of skiing only! I can hardly type let alone ski/drive (not recommended) under the influence. The influence is my reward! :eek: PS I know this is not totally MC material but if I have to read another thread about how to oil my teak or pull my impeller I'm gonna get sick! No offense!Oh no, Bob's you're having surgury to add another arm? You and Tex!

[jimmer2880]

For what it's worth - I'm not putting anyone down for dropping more ponies in their comp boat. To each his own. I wish I had that kind of dough.

That Sanger hull reminds me of the same era flightcrafts (although the flightcrafts were inboars made by malibu).

[kpickett]

That Sanger hull reminds me of the same era flightcrafts (although the flightcrafts were inboars made by malibu).

Yeah, it is kind of similar. It's a 21' boat, but it doesn't have any more room in the interior than my 19' MC. The extra two feet are all in the bow. I guess that's why it handles the rough water better.

[jimmer2880]

Yeah, it is kind of similar. It's a 21' boat, but it doesn't have any more room in the interior than my 19' MC. The extra two feet are all in the bow. I guess that's why it handles the rough water better.

That's what my ex-sister-in-law's husband's boat is like (his is a 88 or 89 flightcraft). 21', but it's all in the bow. And - it'll porpous at full-throttle.

At least the kids have the extra 2' to play under the closed bow :eek3:

[kpickett]

And - it'll porpous at full-throttle.

At least the kids have the extra 2' to play under the closed bow :eek3:

Interesting - with the I/O Sanger, you can trim the engine to put the bow wherever you want it - one of the few advantages to the I/O.

I can put a lot of stuff under the bow, but it's not easy fishing it back out.

[6ballsisall]

Took a personal day today and worked on the boat. Here are a few pics of what I accomplished today.

Pic # 1

The Observer seat base- Mag Red had a great idea and suggested I paint the base as it was scratched and faded. After some 600 grit sandpaper and some black gloss plastic spray paint this piece looks like new!

[6ballsisall]

The prior owner of this boat pitched the rear seat (she was a wakeboarder and had fat sacs in it all the time) After searching long and hard on ebay with no luck I am making my own. This is the base of the seat. My plan is to have two padded seats, 1 on each side and the center section will remain carpeted but not padded. Stepping in and out of the boat with a ski all the time is pretty touch on the vinyl but the carpet should be able to take it.

[Mag_Red]

:eek: Damned that does look good! I remember what it used to look like. Great job Jeff! :headbang:

[6ballsisall]

Lastly, the side panels in the boat had somehow dissapeared from the prior owner and it looked pretty crummy. These are the start of some panels I made. I used the 4'x8' fiberglass sheets for showers, I plan to cover them with the same vinyl that will be used on the new skins.

[Mag_Red]

Everything is looking so damned good that you better pull that dash and do it up right :toast:

[6ballsisall]

Everything is looking so damned good that you better pull that dash and do it up right :toast:


Oh I plan too! Not sure what I am going to do there yet. I am shopping Ebay right now for some nice new gauges. I think I want white faced ones. Can't get the wife talked into perfect pass this year so I think I will have 2 speedos. I think that will be about the last thing I do to it before the season starts.

[Mag_Red]

Jeff, that boat is going look sweet tied up along side our new houseboat. ;)

[MarkP]

Nice work J....

[Cloaked]

Jeff, your boat looks good. I wanted new carpet but the guy at the carpet place (link here on the board) takes only PayPal. I don't use PayPal for reasons of preference. Thus I'm still carpetless. Where did you get your carpet, please? That looks real nice, as does the base.

I have a back seat out that I'd be glad to take a few pics for reference if you need any to look at or any dimensions on my rear seat as well. I have it out now cleaning it.

Again, your boat looks great, just knowing it will turn out nice. I like the idea about the side panels too... That's sweet...

[6ballsisall]

Jeff, your boat looks good. I wanted new carpet but the guy at the carpet place (link here on the board) takes only PayPal. I don't use PayPal for reasons of preference. Thus I'm still carpetless. Where did you get your carpet, please? That looks real nice, as does the base.

I have a back seat out that I'd be glad to take a few pics for reference if you need any to look at or any dimensions on my rear seat as well. I have it out now cleaning it.

Again, your boat looks great, just knowing it will turn out nice. I like the idea about the side panels too... That's sweet...


Thanks!

I got the carpet at Lowes. It was around $4.50 per linear foot (6 foot wide rolls. I got 30' linear feet and came out with plenty extra.

Yeah, shoot me some pics of your back seat if you get a chance that would be awesome!

[6ballsisall]

Jeff, that boat is going look sweet tied up along side our new houseboat. ;)

Hey you never know! If we don't end up relocating next year I think that could be a reality. I checked that one out, very nice and that is a SWEET price!

[jimmer2880]

Looks great. Don't forget about leaving enough room on the sides to store skiis. It would be a shame to waste all that space & not have some gear in there.

[Cloaked]

Thanks!

I got the carpet at Lowes. It was around $4.50 per linear foot (6 foot wide rolls. I got 30' linear feet and came out with plenty extra.

Yeah, shoot me some pics of your back seat if you get a chance that would be awesome!Here are a few pics. If you need dimensions, I'll be glad to help.

On another note, how about a few pointers or tips for installing the carpet. Direction of installation, how you utilized the 6' roll, in 3' sections? etc....How far up under the bow did you go? What can I do for the path of least resistance? I'm an Engineer, not a carpet layer... LOL.... There has to be a method to the madness... :uglyhamme

Thanks...

Chuck

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[Mag_Red]

Sporty I can help you with the installation. Cut a 6' x 12' section in half length wise so you have (2) 3'x12" pieces. Remove the two center panels in the floor, you will cover these seperately. YOu should now have two straight edges running up along both sides of the engine. Lay the carpet out so the one side will wrap the edge of the open compartments in the boat. (one behind the engine and one infront of the engine) Glue the carpet from the inside and work out towards the sides of the boat. Do the floor first, then fold the carpet onto itself, glue the sides, and then work the remaining carpet up the sides. Make sense??? :wavey:

[Cloaked]

Sporty I can help you with the installation. Cut a 6' x 12' section in half length wise so you have (2) 3'x12" pieces. Remove the two center panels in the floor, you will cover these seperately. YOu should now have two straight edges running up along both sides of the engine. Lay the carpet out so the one side will wrap the edge of the open compartments in the boat. (one behind the engine and one infront of the engine) Glue the carpet from the inside and work out towards the sides of the boat. Do the floor first, then fold the carpet onto itself, glue the sides, and then work the remaining carpet up the sides. Make sense??? :wavey:Perfect. Thank you my friend. That is what I was looking for was a logical starting point. Thanks again....

[6ballsisall]

Here are a few pics. If you need dimensions, I'll be glad to help.

On another note, how about a few pointers or tips for installing the carpet. Direction of installation, how you utilized the 6' roll, in 3' sections? etc....How far up under the bow did you go? What can I do for the path of least resistance? I'm an Engineer, not a carpet layer... LOL.... There has to be a method to the madness... :uglyhamme

Thanks...

Chuck

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Big thanks Chuck My rear seat is not going to look stock but maybe I can emulate some of the stock seat into mine. We will see!!

Mag hit it right on the head about the carpet install. He was a huge help!!

[Cloaked]

Big thanks Chuck My rear seat is not going to look stock but maybe I can emulate some of the stock seat into mine. We will see!!

Mag hit it right on the head about the carpet install. He was a huge help!!I'd say you're well on your way to a nice setup. I rarely even take my rear seat unless I plan on several to be skiing. I live on the lake so the front yard is my back seat... LOL... I like the space in the back and not having to climb over my seat.

Looking forward to pics when you're done...

[Hoosier Bob]

I'd forgotten how cheap of a date you were! :D Sporty I can help you with the installation. Cut a 6' x 12' section in half length wise so you have (2) 3'x12" pieces. Remove the two center panels in the floor, you will cover these seperately. YOu should now have two straight edges running up along both sides of the engine. Lay the carpet out so the one side will wrap the edge of the open compartments in the boat. (one behind the engine and one infront of the engine) Glue the carpet from the inside and work out towards the sides of the boat. Do the floor first, then fold the carpet onto itself, glue the sides, and then work the remaining carpet up the sides. Make sense??? :wavey:

[Mag_Red]

I'd forgotten how cheap of a date you were! :D :rolleyes: Shouldn't your name be Hoos Yer Mama??? :D

[Hoosier Bob]

I don't even have a "Mana!" :woohoo: :rolleyes: Shouldn't your name be Hoos Yer Mana??? :D

[Mag_Red]

I don't even have a "Mana!" :woohoo: :uglyhamme Stop editing my posts when you quote me. You're making me look like a tool! Did you hear that Brad.???? I said Tool.

[MarkP]

:uglyhamme Stop editing my posts when you quote me. You're making me look like a tool! Did you hear that Brad.???? I said I AM Tool. I knew it, I just knew it

[Hoosier Bob]

I know who that is! The dad question could give me some trouble, seeing as how my biological father is 6'5" and 245 lbs!!!! I take after my mom! Think there's been another dog in the yard? :purplaugh :uglyhamme Stop editing my posts when you quote me. You're making me look like a tool! Did you hear that Brad.???? I said Tool.

[BriEOD]

I knew it, I just knew it

What MAG IS THE TOOLMAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Hoosier Bob]

Mag you are mine! Just 907 posts to go!! MMMMMAAAAHHHHHAHAHA!! :rant: PS. Is that guy playing Mississippi Queen? :toast:

[6ballsisall]

Laid fiberglass patches over the speaker holes on the motorbox the prior owner cut out. I think I lost about 10,000 brain cells give or take a million and even after washing up reallly good I feel small fiberglass chards stuck to my hands!! How do you get that crap off??
Would post pics but I think my camera just bit the dust! :confused:

[André]

Two words:Latex Gloves.
Whenever i paint, stain or something messy ,just put a pair and dispose after .

[JimN]

Wear rubber gloves when you lay fiberglass. Acetone dissolves polyester resin, something you don't need long-term exposure to.

[6ballsisall]

Thanks for the tips guys, will definetely do that next time!!

Figured out the camera, here is 2 pics after starting to insulate the motorbox.

[6ballsisall]

Pic #2, this is sound and heat insulation from Pep Boys, only $13 a roll!!

[east tx skier]

Looks like the stuff I got from Overtons, but not so expensive. Grab some foil tape next time you're at Pep Boys. It helps trim it off nicely.

[6ballsisall]

Got the stern all prepped for its new gel coat. 4 hours of sanding sucks!! Hopefully the end result is good!

[Professor]

Looks good Jeff.

[whitedog]

Jeff, all the dead brain cells and sweat make will make it all the better. Keep up the good work. :toast:

[6ballsisall]

Gelcoat completed!

Never again!!

See if you can see that transition from old to new. It's there, pretty hard to blend!!

[6ballsisall]

Closer up pic

[6ballsisall]

Shot Far back

[6ballsisall]

Heres a before shot

[MarkP]

Got the stern all prepped for its new gel coat. 4 hours of sanding sucks!! Hopefully the end result is good!I would say at least GOOD:headbang: Looks great!!
What was the hardest part?

[DRC]

JRANDOL

Your boat looks great. Could you please tell me how you carpeted that center panel in front of the engine where the pylon is. I can't figure out how to remove mine since the passenger seat base does not come off. I have the carpet ready to go in, but haven't done anything yet as I can't figure out how to get the panel out. Or did you find another way of doing it??? I would really appreciate any information. Thanks man, and again your boat is looking amazing.

[6ballsisall]

Thanks Mark and DRC. The sanding and never ending sanding was a real bizatch. It sutill isn't perfectly smooth and it won't be. I am worried about sanding anymore as I think the gel is already getting thin. I would recommend to anyone that wants to try this, definetely spray it on, not brush like I did. I bet you could probably get a better coat with spray.

CRC, what year is your boat? My center section comes right out with just a few screws.

[Mag_Red]

I would say at least GOOD:headbang: Looks great!!
What was the hardest part?

:eek: I'll have to stop over and see that.........Looks super! :woohoo:

[6ballsisall]

C'mon over! Theres cold beer in the fridge. Hurry though, it might be all gone soon! :D Wait til next weekend and I might be putting in seats!! :smile:

[Leroy]

Makes you appreciate the MC works that much more I'm sure! They wore gloves, but no mask and the fumes are strong going through there.

They lay the glass down, guy with the gun sprays liquid and people roll the glass to the mold with roller paint brush.

Gel coat and other paint is already painted onto the mold.

[6ballsisall]

[QUOTE=Leroy]Makes you appreciate the MC works that much more I'm sure!



Oh big time!! Those guys are amazing! I wonder if they still do it today with out respirators. You would think OSHA would be all over that.

[Leroy]

Year ago they weren't! They guys in the cutting area, holes, had respirators, the guys where they cut it after coming out of the mold wore full body suits, I walked through there. 8p

[Ric]

I think the gelcoat experts should be considered artists.
To blend that stuff to an unnoticeable appearance is near impossible and that's if you have a good color match to begin with.

Thanks Mark and DRC. The sanding and never ending sanding was a real bizatch. It sutill isn't perfectly smooth and it won't be. I am worried about sanding anymore as I think the gel is already getting thin. I would recommend to anyone that wants to try this, definetely spray it on, not brush like I did. I bet you could probably get a better coat with spray.

CRC, what year is your boat? My center section comes right out with just a few screws.

[6ballsisall]

I am with you Ric, that is really hard to do!


Bought some Muriatic acid today at Lowes. Plan to mix it 50/50 with water to try and get some of the yellowing out. I was planning on using that Iron Out stuff as recommended but apparently that is "discontinued product" as I was told by 3 stores. :rolleyes:

Hope this Muriatic acid don't kill me, it sounds mean!!

[Footin]

It will not hurt you.....but it will clean your concreate quite nicely!!!

[jsonova99]

I use that for the pool pH, just make sure you are in a well-ventillated area, and don't get it on you. I got a wiff of that stuff up close and just about fell over unconscious.

[whitedog]

I am with you Ric, that is really hard to do!


Bought some Muriatic acid today at Lowes. Plan to mix it 50/50 with water to try and get some of the yellowing out. I was planning on using that Iron Out stuff as recommended but apparently that is "discontinued product" as I was told by 3 stores. :rolleyes:

Hope this Muriatic acid don't kill me, it sounds mean!!

A product called CLR (Calcium,Lime,Rust Remover) does the same thing as Iron Out. It should be on hand in most hardware stores.

[6ballsisall]

A product called CLR (Calcium,Lime,Rust Remover) does the same thing as Iron Out. It should be on hand in most hardware stores.

I tried CLR last night, no dice. I heard this muriatic acid is quite a bit meaner and if that won't take it out, nothing will. Figure I will give it a whirl diluted and see what happens. If not, guess I will have a two tone white boat!

[jsonova99]

I've seen some commercials for CLR, I've been meaning to pick some up to try out.

[6ballsisall]

Played with the muriatic acid tonight. Wow!! That stuff is some nasty nasty material! Mixed it half and half with water and let's just say any chemical that turns cold water warm has me worried! I applied it on a part of the bow and alas, it didn't seem to whiten it as much as I hoped. It did clean it up nice though. I think if the weather permits I might clean the whole gel coat with it.

It sure did a nice job cleaning up a rust stain on the driveway!

[DRC]

JRANDOL

My boat is an 87 prostar powerslot. The passenger seat makes it difficult to get that center piece out. Maybe I'm not looking hard enough. It seems it is one piece from the motor to past the battery area under the dash. I didn't think I could wedge it out, as I tried this once last year. Is there a seem under the carpet....what I mean is, is that boar actually two pieces maybe??

[JimN]

I don't know if you have had any experience with acids like this, but if there is any strength to it at all, you need to add the acid to the water. If it's really strong, the water will boil on top of the acid and spray all over the place. This is especially true with sulphuric, since it's so much denser than water.

Also, don't use acid on concrete unless you intend to replace it soon. Muriatic will age concrete 50-100 years in about a minute. If you absolutely can't use it someplace else, hose the concrete off first, so the acid will dilute when it hits the water. Flowing water is best, so the acid can't sit on the concrete for any length of time.

[6ballsisall]

I don't know if you have had any experience with acids like this, but if there is any strength to it at all, you need to add the acid to the water. If it's really strong, the water will boil on top of the acid and spray all over the place. This is especially true with sulphuric, since it's so much denser than water.

Also, don't use acid on concrete unless you intend to replace it soon. Muriatic will age concrete 50-100 years in about a minute. If you absolutely can't use it someplace else, hose the concrete off first, so the acid will dilute when it hits the water. Flowing water is best, so the acid can't sit on the concrete for any length of time.


Yep I added acid to water. It still got nice and warm

Crap!! I hope I didn't kill the concrete!! It was wet when I poured it on and it didn't set on there for maybe more then 30 seconds or so and then I washed it off with a hose for quite a while. Guess I will see what happens when it dries! :popcorn:

[6ballsisall]

JRANDOL

My boat is an 87 prostar powerslot. The passenger seat makes it difficult to get that center piece out. Maybe I'm not looking hard enough. It seems it is one piece from the motor to past the battery area under the dash. I didn't think I could wedge it out, as I tried this once last year. Is there a seem under the carpet....what I mean is, is that boar actually two pieces maybe??


I had to completely take out the passenger seat, base and all. Mine is 1 piece from the motor box all the way past the battery tray. You have to take out the ski pylon as well. I am not certain on yours since it is a year newer but I wouldn't be suprised if they were similar.

[6ballsisall]

Update

Installed new captains chair!

[6ballsisall]

And worked on the side panels! The white stuff is 1/2" low density foam. It will all be wrapped with seat matching white vinyl. Notice the 6 x9 cutouts. Couldn't help my self!! Stopped by Best Buy today and picked up 4 6 x 9's and a cheap CD player. Gotta have some tunes!!

Before installing the vinyle I plan to drill some small holes all in the back of the panel to let air and moisture flow thru.

[NeilM]

Impressive! Keep the pics coming.

[6ballsisall]

I am plugging along seeing light at the end of the tunnel! Picked up the finished motorbox today. I am so pleased!! This place does awesome work!! Here is the motorbox, I pick up the rest of the seats early next week.

[6ballsisall]

Here's a pic of the side panels after upholstery. I did these myself, not pierfect...got a few little ripples but overall I think they will add alot once they are screwed down and have some 6 x 9's hanging fromt them!

[Mag_Red]

I am plugging along seeing light at the end of the tunnel! Picked up the finished motorbox today. I am so pleased!! This place does awesome work!! Here is the motorbox, I pick up the rest of the seats early next week. Hmmmmmm Black and gray stripes :cool:

[6ballsisall]

Hmmmmmm Black and gray stripes :cool:

Yeah, some crazy guy with a yellow boat thought it would be cool. :D

[6ballsisall]

Got some more done yeaterday. This thing sure is turning out to be a labor of love!

Motorbox "lift kit" installed. Had to recarpet the frame of this. This boat has this "lift kit" to make clearance for the high rise manifold on it.

[6ballsisall]

Interior #2. I pick up the rest of the seats either Monday or Tuesday and then will be able to tie in the side pieces.

[6ballsisall]

New Teleflex tach installed to replace the defunct 1986 tach


Will tackle the instrument cluster sometime this summer. Just aching to get this thing on the water!

[6ballsisall]

The new 541 waiting to be flogged!

[André]

Jeff
The checklist is coming up good!
What's left ?
You did put a couples of bucks in that boat so far...

[Mag_Red]

The new 541 waiting to be flogged! Just don't flog it as badly as you did the last prop! 8p Jeff, you sure got the boat looking nice! :banana:

[6ballsisall]

Thanks Andre and Mag! I will be nice to this one, the one you saw Mag was from the prior owner.

Andre, to answer your question, here is what is left on my to do list

Windshield- just the side pieces
Re-rivet parts of the moulding that has come loose
Redo the instrument cluster-it looks crummy
Relabel the boat- I am debating making it a Stars and Stripes or giving it a more contemporary label set like the lettering used on todays MC.

Some of it may have to wait until this fall, at this point I am getting to the point where I just want to use it. I bought it for $2500 and had hopes of not putting more than $3800 in it total (including purchase price). I think I will come out some where near $4800-$5k. Hopefully I can get that back out of it in a few years!

[scott88prostar]

JR....Im doing my upholstery .....was wondering what you use to attach the sideboards.....did you use those plastic plugs?

[6ballsisall]

JR....Im doing my upholstery .....was wondering what you use to attach the sideboards.....did you use those plastic plugs?


The upholstery shop is making me some plugs I should have them soon. I will post some pics for you

[sfitzgerald351]

Looks great. You'll get your money back no problem. Once that boat is done you'll get $8k easy if it runs as good as it's starting to look.

I'm going to be intersted to see what that prop does for you since I have the same hull.

Scott (who needs a garage so I do boat projects over the winter to keep it looking as nice as everyone elses!)

[BriEOD]

That thing is looking like a boat again! Good work Jeff!!

[6ballsisall]

:banana:

Here are some pics!! This is the back panel. I had it padded and upholstered to match the rest of the interior. I didn't like the fiberglass look and since I don't have a back seat..

[6ballsisall]

1st pic of the observer seat. Nothing is tightened down, just sitting in place right now.

[6ballsisall]

Should I add buttons in the seats or leave them solid white like they are? I am torn here!! I like the plain look but wonder if I ad some color if it would do something for the seats. Here is a pic with the buttons laying approx where they would be stitched in. Buttons on the seat backs would correspond with these locations.

[6ballsisall]

JR....Im doing my upholstery .....was wondering what you use to attach the sideboards.....did you use those plastic plugs?


Scott

Here is a pic I took of what I am using,. Upholstery shop made them for me.

[sfitzgerald351]

I'd go plain. Buttons suck to sit on.

Is all the upholstery white? It's a very clean look and is really sharp but I'm worried it might be hard to keep clean. My rear panel (I don't have a back seat either) gets really banged up so I'm going to be curious to see if the vinyl holds up better or worse than the fiberglass.

Keep up the good work. This is great to watch!

[6ballsisall]

I'd go plain. Buttons suck to sit on.

Is all the upholstery white? It's a very clean look and is really sharp but I'm worried it might be hard to keep clean. My rear panel (I don't have a back seat either) gets really banged up so I'm going to be curious to see if the vinyl holds up better or worse than the fiberglass.

Keep up the good work. This is great to watch!


Yes it is all white minus some colors on the motor box. Good point about sitting on the buttons. I think ia m going to bolt em up and use them like they are for a while and see what I think. If I get a hankering I can always add the buttons.
Hopefully I can keep them clean. We own leather interior in our cars and I am a freak about applying treatment to them all the time and keeping them clean. I bought a bottle of 303 for protectant. The vinyl thickness used here is 37 oz marine vinyl.

[scott88prostar]

Thanks for the pic Jeff....mine are a little different.

[NeilM]

I really like the plain, too.. Something elegant about the "uncluttered" look you've given everything..

One other thought - no buttons = nothing to tear the vinyl..

[BriEOD]

Leave the buttons off... :twocents:

[jsonova99]

I agree, much better without the buttons. Besides, somebody will end up catching something on one and ripping the vinyl. I would leave it plain.

[DanC]

My vote No buttons.
Water pools in them, gets under the vinyl and into the seat foam
harder to clean around them,
eventually will start to tear if you don't reinforce the back side
:twocents:

[Granite_33]

Put the buttons on the seatbacks if you want the color.

Keep the seat bottoms clean. Hooks, tears, dirt, just like everyone else said. It would be an easy conduit for H20 to get into the seats.

:twocents:

That is one beautiful boat!!! :headbang:

[east tx skier]

I agree on no buttons. For added color, couldn't an upholstery shop put some of that round edging (sorry, I don't what it's called) on there in an accent color. May be too late for that.

[jimmer2880]

I am with you Ric, that is really hard to do!


Bought some Muriatic acid today at Lowes. Plan to mix it 50/50 with water to try and get some of the yellowing out. I was planning on using that Iron Out stuff as recommended but apparently that is "discontinued product" as I was told by 3 stores. :rolleyes:

Hope this Muriatic acid don't kill me, it sounds mean!!

What? I use that stuff in my water softener all the time! I hope it's not discontinued. Wal-mart carries it. Look next to where they carry their solar salt.

[6ballsisall]

Well I am more less done for a while! Time to enjoy it! Only thing left is to finish off the stereo wires-conceal them.

[6ballsisall]

Picture #2

[6ballsisall]

Picture #3

[6ballsisall]

Picture #4

[6ballsisall]

Plan to take it out this weekend, I will get some water pics of it then!! :dance:

[jsonova99]

that looks great, you've done an awesome job with it.

[Cloaked]

Looks good JR. Any pics of the rear seat?

[Ric]

geez man! That thing looks too nice to actually get it dirty towing down the road and getting all that slimey lakewater all over it

[André]

Nice looking boat Jeff!Your Hard work pays off !!!
Would like to see a close up on the new gel if you can.
Congrats!

[NeilM]

geez man! That thing looks too nice to actually get it dirty towing down the road and getting all that slimey lakewater all over it

i agree! Have fun...:woohoo:

[BriEOD]

Kudos Jeff...it's twice as nice because you know all the hard work you put into it. Have fun this weekend, I know I will!!!

[east tx skier]

Very nice. Have fun with it.

[6ballsisall]

Well the boat is at rest in it's new summer home. She still is a little grumpy and needs some more timing adjustments but I think she is going to settle down soon and start acting like a good boat.

Here's a pic!

[erkoehler]

Well the boat is at rest in it's new summer home. She still is a little grumpy and needs some more timing adjustments but I think she is going to settle down soon and start acting like a good boat.

Here's a pic!


Looks good on the water. Have fun with it this summer!

[Leroy]

Jeff; Which lake is that?

[6ballsisall]

Jeff; Which lake is that?


Hidden Valley Lakes, its where we live. Right next to Perfect North Ski Slopes

[Mag_Red]

Well the boat is at rest in it's new summer home. She still is a little grumpy and needs some more timing adjustments but I think she is going to settle down soon and start acting like a good boat.

Here's a pic! :woohoo: Only thing missing is a rope and Mag Red behind it :wavey: If it wasn't Mother's day I'd be out there in a half hour ;)

[BriEOD]

:woohoo: Only thing missing is a rope and Mag Red behind it :wavey: If it wasn't Mother's day I'd be out there in a half hour ;)

Jeff doesn't put tubes behind his boat tptool!!! :uglyhamme

[BriEOD]

Hidden Valley Lakes,
Is that where they make Ranch Dressing? :uglyhamme

[Mag_Red]

Jeff doesn't put tubes behind his boat tptool!!! :uglyhamme :purplaugh You are just soooooooo convinced of that :rolleyes:

[6ballsisall]

:woohoo: Only thing missing is a rope and Mag Red behind it :wavey: If it wasn't Mother's day I'd be out there in a half hour ;)


Give me a call when you want to go! Always need a good excuse to fire it up!

[Mag_Red]

Give me a call when you want to go! Always need a good excuse to fire it up!Just wondering....what's the lake temp these days?????

[BriEOD]

:purplaugh You are just soooooooo convinced of that :rolleyes:

Well Bob, there is a substantial amount of circumstancial evidence that points the finger at you my friend!!

[Mag_Red]

Well Bob, there is a substantial amount of circumstancial evidence that points the finger at you my friend!!Let's hear it............this should be amusing. :banana:

[6ballsisall]

Just wondering....what's the lake temp these days?????


No temp gauge on my 86' but it's a chilly warm type water. No need for a wetsuit but that 1st jump in might create the slightest amount of shrinkage! C'mon out! :steering:

BTW, nice avatar! Boat Mate will be hunting you down! :uglyhamme

[6ballsisall]

Is that where they make Ranch Dressing? :uglyhamme

You wouldn't believe how much I hear that! :D

[6ballsisall]

Well Bob, there is a substantial amount of circumstancial evidence that points the finger at you my friend!!


Share the facts! It would be wild to know TPTOOL is right in my backyard. Maybe I could get schooled from a professional toober :D

[Leroy]

Good use of the pic Mag. Knew I "right-clik-saved" for good reason. Definitely an improvement over the old avatar, anything else you want to share with us???



Let's hear it............this should be amusing. :banana:

[erkoehler]

Wasn't there another picture of her laying on her back? :eek:

[6ballsisall]

Cmon Mag don't hold out on us! Do share!

[erkoehler]

Cmon Mag don't hold out on us! Do share!


I am sure somebody has that one saved also!