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icedog-10
09-12-2007, 09:56 AM
We tried to surf over Labor Day for the first time with my 93 Prostar 205 and had a few issues that I would like to get some help with. I had a couch in the back and a sac of about 500lbs on the side. I had about 600lbs of people on board. We never seemed to get the sweet spot that people talk about even when we movee people around. The wake was big but it seemed to wash out the whole time. My other question is in regards to safe RPMs over a long time. With all that weight I was running about 3000 to 3200 RPMs. Is the only danger the fact that I am using a lot of gas that way. The last issue is, should I go to a 4 blade prop from my 3 blade? Sorry for the long post on my first one but I am trying to keep from buying a new boat just to surf.

KnoxX2
09-12-2007, 10:07 AM
Welcome Icedog!!

I sure someone can answer this for you...............

Did you play with the speed any?

And did you have any people in the front of the boat?

icedog-10
09-12-2007, 10:17 AM
Thanks for getting back to me.

We went between 9 and 13 and move people into the front and that made it worse.

justinlkgb
09-12-2007, 10:20 AM
Icedog, be patient, you will find the sweet spot.
I too had a lot of the problems you are having on my 91 Maristar.

I found that too much even weight in the back made for a bad wave. What I mean is I put one fat sac on the pass. side, next to the motor box.( This is the only side in which we surf).
Another sac will go up in the mid/front, over the floor locker.
And if people are scarce i will put a bag in the back by the other sac, just as far away from the drivers side as possible.


I have found this to be an excellent way to achive a wave. I would think that your 205 should do as well as if not better.

On the whole prop thing... I use a 3 blade, but its a 13 x 10.5 which translates into only wake/surfing. I chose this b/c thats what I use the boat for all the time. My RPM's when surfing are around 2400-2600 depending on how much weight is onboard. I think fuel consuption is down somewhat, but all the extra weight may just compromise that thinking.

Hope this can help you out. Surfs UP:D :cool:

east tx skier
09-12-2007, 10:29 AM
The one time I've been with people who were wake surfing, they put all the weight on one side of the boat (the port side), had passengers all sitting on that side, and made wide left hand circles. The waves were enormous and the rider rode as long as he wanted.

Now this wasn't a 205, but rather a big wake machine. But I'm sure the idea is similar.

surfacetension
09-12-2007, 11:00 AM
I have an X2 and I can put 2 people in back and one in front the port side seems to be cleaner also make a SLOW wide turn to the side you are surfing on, It seems to clean it up a bit

wakescene
09-12-2007, 02:17 PM
weighting a boat for wakesurfing goes like this....

300-500 in the rear locker
250-400 across the back, or back seat/floor
400-500 across the bow (side to side config, NOT up the walkway)
Load people around interior to balance the boat and generate a smaller or larger pocket for the rider.

Just vary the weight as needed for your boat but if you follow this method you will get pretty close right away.

icedog-10
09-12-2007, 02:26 PM
weighting a boat for wakesurfing goes like this....

300-500 in the rear locker
250-400 across the back, or back seat/floor
400-500 across the bow (side to side config, NOT up the walkway)
Load people around interior to balance the boat and generate a smaller or larger pocket for the rider.

Just vary the weight as needed for your boat but if you follow this method you will get pretty close right away.
Thanks,

I will post some pics from this weekend if it works.
Probably need wet suits in the northwoods of Wisconsin this weekend.

rodltg2
09-12-2007, 02:28 PM
why are you using easties boat for wakesurfing? ;)

east tx skier
09-12-2007, 02:30 PM
why are you using easties boat for wakesurfing? ;)


:popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:

WAT8415
09-12-2007, 02:42 PM
Icedog, we surf behind my cousin's 93 205. First I think you are going way to fast. We run about 1800 to 2000 RPM's all depends upon how we weight the boat. It took us a few tries moving weight and people around. We do not have alot of sacs but here is our setup: one 260 lb sac in the bow on the floor, the other 260 lb sac in the back centered. Depending upon how many people we have at the time we distribute the people around the boat with one or two up front, two or more on the surfing side towards the back. You have more weight than we do so just keep moving it around and you will get it. Once again I think you are going to fast when we do have a boat with PP or a good speedo we run about 10 ~ 12 MPH. If you dont have PP then run about 1800 to 1900 RPM and adjust from there. Take the time to just play with the speed and weight before putting a surfer behind the boat. Good Luck

icedog-10
09-18-2007, 09:02 PM
We were able to surf this weekend. I put 1200lbs in back, 500lbs on the side and 400lbs in the front. I had 500lbs in passangers all on the drivers side. It did not work as well for me since I could not move the people around as much and without me there was only 300lbs of passangers.

92 190 PS
09-18-2007, 09:10 PM
why are you using easties boat for wakesurfing? ;)

Guess we'll have some idea if he posts pictures this weekend...:rolleyes:

icedog-10
09-18-2007, 09:24 PM
I am trying to attach a photo of my boat but I can't get it from "Manage Attachments" to my post. How do you do that?

icedog-10
09-18-2007, 09:25 PM
I guess I did get it to work.

icedog-10
09-18-2007, 09:54 PM
Here are the pics. Ran out of batteries before we could get a picture without his hand in his face. Since he had a wet suit on he dove in without a life vest and we did not even notice.

groovyone789
09-19-2007, 12:32 AM
what lake are you on? it looks really familiar.

icedog-10
09-19-2007, 09:08 AM
We are on Lower Post Lake in Langlade County Wisconsin

justinlkgb
09-19-2007, 09:50 AM
What part of Wisc.??? Wasn't it really cool this past weekend? It was in MN. Got any pics????:cool:

icedog-10
09-19-2007, 10:03 AM
North Central Wisconsin about 45 miles south of Eagle River. It got down to 28 at night. It is a shallow lake so the water temp changes quickly. Look to post #16 for some pics.

justinlkgb
09-20-2007, 09:34 AM
North Central Wisconsin about 45 miles south of Eagle River. It got down to 28 at night. It is a shallow lake so the water temp changes quickly. Look to post #16 for some pics.


Post 16.....mine only goes to 10 per page???? Sounds like this weekend will be great. I will see if I can get a pic of our setup. 28....thats dedication!!!!!:D

Did you have to get out the blaze orange yet????:D :D :D