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bcampbe7
03-04-2005, 11:00 AM
I thought I would start a new thread on this topic just to rant if anything...
My wife and I have started looking at new vehicles. We are not going to buy one till October or November but I like to do my research. I hate the fact that when I go to a dealership to look at a vehicle I get hounded by 3-4 salespeople. They are like starved animals. I know they are there to make money, but come on. The best dealership I have ever dealt with is a used car dealer here in Tennessee. They have a no pressure atmoshpere; heres the keys drive whatever you want. Take it home if you want. If you don't like it no problem. If he sold new and used cars I would by every vehicle from him. Awesome guy to deal with! I guess I just don't get pressure sales. Never have. I guess it works on some people. I think it works on impulse buyers. I have never bought big purchases on impulse. I keep the impulse buys under $100. :D

east tx skier
03-04-2005, 11:30 AM
Are you buying new? If so, why?

bcampbe7
03-04-2005, 11:34 AM
We are hoping to find a "new" 2005 after the 2006 models come out. We would go for a 2004 with low miles though. Let someone else pay to drive it off the lot, right???

mgurley
03-04-2005, 11:36 AM
You mentioned Tennesee. My old college roomate/ Best friend sells cars here in B'ham Alabama I am sure I can get him to beat any other deal you can find. What do you have in mind?

bcampbe7
03-04-2005, 11:43 AM
:o Wife wants a Volvo XC90...
She travels alot and we want something safe and reliable. Seems to fit our requirements.

In all honesty it is a nice vehicle. May even pull the boat to the ramp in a pinch.

We have no problem traveling to find a deal. :D

Mag_Red
03-04-2005, 11:45 AM
Here's my next car now that the Vette is gone. Will wait till the end of the year before I even start looking...but from everythng I read...this is it.

Leroy
03-04-2005, 12:02 PM
I go to the dealers to help decide what I want, model, features, color, etc, don't talk money on these trips. I will never be sitting at the dealer again waiting for the "manager" to make a decision on a offer. Then shop on line and via phone until you have the price I want. I searched out 300 miles and bought my Odyssey (Evansville, IN) and LX470 (CHicago) that way. Then show up at dealer with check for amount. Service departments show no difference whether you bought the car there or not.

I like the new Viper killer Vette, but out of my range for now. I keep looking and would like to pick up old Porsche 944.

With the reliability of cars today, I also think used can be a great deal.

east tx skier
03-04-2005, 12:10 PM
I'm pretty much done with new cars. Even the used ones smell new these days. With the amount of miles you can put on a car in this day and age, and the relatively few miles I drive in a year, I just can't rationalize burning the money on the significant depreciation that is assured on a brand new car. We go used from a dealer and get it checked by our mechanic. Or we go carmax, a business I cannot say a bad thing about (our last car from them is on 196K miles with minmal unexpected maintenance). Not to mention, they stayed 3 hours late to close the deal and are a no-haggle operation. It's also nice that they'll offer you cash on a vehicle even if you don't buy from them.

Don't get me wrong, I'm glad some people buy them new. :wavey:

bcampbe7
03-04-2005, 12:16 PM
Here's my next car now that the Vette is gone. Will wait till the end of the year before I even start looking...but from everythng I read...this is it.

I love that car Mag, but at just over $50K it's out of my range. I did build one on their website last night though. :D
I do like how Lexus seems to package their cars. The car base is this amount then you can choose from different packages, all priced differently. Gets rid of the, oh we didn't realize you wanted carpet and a rearview mirror with your new car.

Mag_Red
03-04-2005, 12:23 PM
I love that car Mag, but at just over $50K it's out of my range. I did build one on their website last night though. :D
I do like how Lexus seems to package their cars. The car base is this amount then you can choose from different packages, all priced differently. Gets rid of the, oh we didn't realize you wanted carpet and a rearview mirror with your new car.There's about 5-6 K wiggle room below the MSRP on that car. And if you don't need all the HP there is always the GS 300

east tx skier
03-04-2005, 12:41 PM
I love that car Mag, but at just over $50K it's out of my range. I did build one on their website last night though. :D
I do like how Lexus seems to package their cars. The car base is this amount then you can choose from different packages, all priced differently. Gets rid of the, oh we didn't realize you wanted carpet and a rearview mirror with your new car.

As long as we're on the subject, my mother just passed the 10 year mark on her reconditioned Lexus. Fantastic cars.

Ric
03-04-2005, 01:07 PM
There's about 5-6 K wiggle room below the MSRP on that car. And if you don't need all the HP there is always the GS 300
mag I missed the memo. you got rid of your vette? why?

djhuff
03-04-2005, 01:53 PM
If you are looking for a Volvo, the Ford X plan pricing mentioned on here works for those too.

bcampbe7
03-04-2005, 01:56 PM
I didn't think of that! Thanks djhuff! :toast:
Now who was that that was giving those out??? ;)

MasterMason
03-04-2005, 02:00 PM
I didn't think of that! Thanks djhuff! :toast:
Now who was that that was giving those out??? ;)


Ask Mag, I think he used it

mgurley
03-04-2005, 02:03 PM
Look here.


http://www.tmcowners.com/teamtalk/showthread.php?t=1081&highlight=ford+plan

Brn85ss
03-04-2005, 02:04 PM
I used to work at a new car dealer when I was in high school.That was a real exp. Since I worked there I learned never buy new.Like the owner once said "these cars drive best behind a tow truck",I won't mention the brand so we don't start a brand war.

bcampbe7
03-04-2005, 02:07 PM
Please PM me if it was Volvo.

bcampbe7
03-04-2005, 02:10 PM
Thanks mgurley. I remember that thread now...
I may be able to get the X Plan through my employer. I will have to check on that. Mag said in that thread that he probably saved $2500 on the van that he purchased. I wonder what kind of savings I would be looking at??? :banana:

rodltg2
03-04-2005, 02:25 PM
edmunds.com good place to check car info.

Mag_Red
03-04-2005, 02:42 PM
mag I missed the memo. you got rid of your vette? why? Had it 6 years, had lots of fun with it, just time to move on......Since I bought the MC, I seldom drove it. Couldn't validate it just sitting taking up space in the garage. :steering: And yes.....I :cry: 'ed when I watched the new owners drive her down the street.

T Scott
03-04-2005, 02:57 PM
Brian,
You might want to check with some local auto brokers. I am a licensed dealer and I buy/sell cars from the Manheim auctions on a part time basis. Check out my website at www.carmatchauto.com
Maybe a broker in your area can find you one. Most brokers, such as myself charge a flat fee (~$700) on top of what we pay for it at auction. I did a little research for and found that a 2004 Volvo XC90, All Wheel drive and T6 engine package has sold for the following prices at the auto auctions.

date auction sold price miles options
03/03/2005 RIVRSIDE $ 33,750 3,800 A MYS SIL 6G A X WC
03/02/2005 MILWAUKE $ 37,500 5,877 A BLACK 6G A X MW
02/25/2005 MANHEIM $ 34,200 5,910 A SILVER 6GT A X NE
03/01/2005 ARENA $ 34,900 9,829 A GREEN 6G A X MW
02/09/2005 NADE $ 34,400 10,048 A RED 6G NE
02/03/2005 RIVRSIDE $ 36,500 10,717 A BLACK 6G A X WC
03/03/2005 RIVRSIDE $ 37,750 13,399 A MYS SIL 6G A X WC
02/23/2005 NASHVIL L $ 38,400 14,443 A BLKSAPHR 6G A X SE
02/23/2005 NASHVILL $ 36,600 15,125 A BLKSAPHR 6GT A X SE
03/02/2005 MILWAUKE $ 35,900 18,051 A CRYST GR 6GT A X MW
02/23/2005 NASHVILL $ 37,400 19,230 A BLACK 6G A X SE
02/24/2005 NEVADA $ 36,750 20,331 A BLACK 6G A WC
03/03/2005 RIVRSIDE $ 30,500 20,985 A CYPRSGRN 6G A X WC
02/09/2005 CEN FLA $ 34,800 21,078 A BLACK 6G A X SE
02/22/2005 FAAO $ 32,500 25,052 A WHITE 6G A X SE
02/18/2005 MANHEIM $ 31,900 39,857 A SILVER 6G NE
02/23/2005 BUTLER $ 25,500 46,124 A GREEN 6GT A X NE
02/24/2005 MANHEIM $ 27,200 70,684 A SILVER 6G NE

bcampbe7
03-04-2005, 03:05 PM
Thanks T Scott. I sent you an email...

aprgriggs
03-04-2005, 03:08 PM
I thought I would start a new thread on this topic just to rant if anything...
My wife and I have started looking at new vehicles. We are not going to buy one till October or November but I like to do my research. I hate the fact that when I go to a dealership to look at a vehicle I get hounded by 3-4 salespeople. They are like starved animals. I know they are there to make money, but come on. The best dealership I have ever dealt with is a used car dealer here in Tennessee. They have a no pressure atmoshpere; heres the keys drive whatever you want. Take it home if you want. If you don't like it no problem. If he sold new and used cars I would by every vehicle from him. Awesome guy to deal with! I guess I just don't get pressure sales. Never have. I guess it works on some people. I think it works on impulse buyers. I have never bought big purchases on impulse. I keep the impulse buys under $100. :D

You should buy used...you already like this place.

fro anyone looking at dodge....my family has a dealership here in Dallas. I will help anyone that needs it. April

bcampbe7
03-04-2005, 03:09 PM
You should buy used...you already like this place.
April
They don't have what we are looking for. I suppose he could get one for us at auction as T Scott stated...

aprgriggs
03-04-2005, 03:16 PM
They don't have what we are looking for. I suppose he could get one for us at auction as T Scott stated...

I would ask him....it could be cheaper too. Good Luck

NSXBill
03-04-2005, 08:32 PM
Friends don't let friends buy Volvos :)

bcampbe7
03-04-2005, 08:43 PM
Friends don't let friends buy Volvos :)
It's either that or an MDX... ;)

But seriously, why do you say that?

BriEOD
03-05-2005, 08:54 AM
Anyone ever contract a buyer to go to a new lot and get your vehicle? Most charge like $250 but I'm sure they can get a better deal than most of us. I think that's what I'm gonna do next time I get a vehicle.

André
03-05-2005, 09:00 AM
I think it's something like 70 % of the new cars buyers get stress over it too...

jimmer2880
03-07-2005, 06:22 AM
....I hate the fact that when I go to a dealership to look at a vehicle I get hounded by 3-4 salespeople. They are like starved animals. . :D

Maybe it's the way I dress or something (usually in jeens & a t-shirt), but I have to go LOOK for a freaking salesperson. Although, after they found out that I can afford anything they got - they've chased me down as I was leaving their lot before. A salesperson should be like waiters in Mexico - always in view so you can motion one of them to come over, but never within talking distance until you want them to be.

I hate pushy salespeople also, but I REALLY hate having to FIND one to buy a car!

Professor
03-07-2005, 07:43 AM
Maybe it's the way I dress or something (usually in jeens & a t-shirt), but I have to go LOOK for a freaking salesperson. Although, after they found out that I can afford anything they got - they've chased me down as I was leaving their lot before. A salesperson should be like waiters in Mexico - always in view so you can motion one of them to come over, but never within talking distance until you want them to be.
I hate pushy salespeople also, but I REALLY hate having to FIND one to buy a car!
So true! It looks as if they would get a clue after so many complaints over the years. One of the few professions that have as bad a reputation as politicians... My first question now is… “How much do I have to pay you to sell me a vehicle?”

jimmer2880
03-07-2005, 01:17 PM
So true! It looks as if they would get a clue after so many complaints over the years. One of the few professions that have as bad a reputation as politicians... My first question now is… “How much do I have to pay you to sell me a vehicle?”

:headbang: